On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 23:48 -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 09/11/11 Paul Johnson said:
Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology
that's dying like BSD these days?
'cause people like it when their systems...work?
Given it's stability, i wouldn't define
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
And it didn't for me when I installed Lenny. I have just installed it
manually. I have not got task-desktop, so do not need its
dependencies.
lisi@Junior:~$ aptitude search task-desktop
lisi@Junior:~$
Keep in mind
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default?
Interesting question. Which distributions do that?
Debian of course :)
It didn't for me when I installed Squeeze. Maybe I did it differently.
$ apt-cache
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 11:29:08, Bob Proulx wrote:
Really this more than anything illustrates that nonfree programs and
protocols are bad for us. It is important to prevent nonfree software
from being required. This is what makes the need for HTML5 to be
completely free so important. We can
On 12 November 2011 09:56, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default?
Interesting question. Which distributions do that?
Debian of course :)
It didn't for
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:51:06AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On 12 November 2011 09:56, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default?
Interesting question.
On 12 November 2011 14:04, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:51:06AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On 12 November 2011 09:56, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:04:30 -0500, Rob Owens wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:51:06AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On 12 November 2011 09:56, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Jo, 10 nov 11, 08:56:46, Walter Hurry wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:18:53 +, T o n g wrote:
Well, not exactly now but at lease Adobe flash is dead for all mobile
devices:
Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-
for-mobile-devices/
Steve Jobs
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 05:47:21PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
Robert Holtzman wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
A .deb package for firefox? Where?
The Debian Mozilla team makes Firefox deb packages available for
Stable that tracks the current release.
http://mozilla.debian.net/
On 09/11/2011 19:18, T o n g wrote:
Well, not exactly now but at lease Adobe flash is dead for all mobile
devices:
Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-
for-mobile-devices/
Steve Jobs wins: Flash being
On 10/11/11 15:46, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 09/11/11 T o n g said:
Adobe flash is one of the tech-inventions that I resent the most.
Now it is dead for all mobiles, and I wish it is dead on the web tomorrow.
I like watching youtube videos. Silverlight is a problem for me on Linux, so
On 10/11/11 19:07, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
On 09/11/2011 19:18, T o n g wrote:
Well, not exactly now but at lease Adobe flash is dead for all mobile
devices:
Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead
On Mi, 09 nov 11, 20:14:28, Walter Hurry wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:51:14 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default?
Interesting question. Which distributions do that?
Debian of course :)
Regards,
Andrei
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On 10/11/2011 09:22, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 10/11/11 19:07, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
On 09/11/2011 19:18, T o n g wrote:
Well, not exactly now but at lease Adobe flash is dead for all mobile
devices:
Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:28:53 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 09 nov 11, 20:14:28, Walter Hurry wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:51:14 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default?
Interesting question. Which distributions do that?
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:10:13 +1100
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/11/11 15:46, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 09/11/11 T o n g said:
Adobe flash is one of the tech-inventions that I resent the most.
Now it is dead for all mobiles, and I wish it is dead on the
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:02:55 -0500
Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:10:13 +1100
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/11/11 15:46, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 09/11/11 T o n g said:
Adobe flash is one of the tech-inventions that I
On 10/11/11 Scott Ferguson said:
Choices are nice :-)
http://www.youtube.com/html5
(let youtube/google know *you* would prefer a choice).
Nice link. I'm using Squeeze so I have FF 3.5. I could update outside of the
.deb package though to something more recent.
Remember when Firefox was
On 10/11/11 Celejar said:
And of course, there's always youtube-dl, cclive, etc.
when they work...
fetch config ...done.
verify video link ...error: libquvi: server returned http/404
I get that for cclive on every url...
and I don't see youtube-dl packaged for squeeze.
Mike
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 00:07, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com wrote:
youtube ... is still very 'betqaish' with html5
You must be using a different YouTube than me. I have had very little
in the way of problems with HTML5 on YT, and nothing recently. Not
all videos are available in
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 07:10:13PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
Choices are nice :-)
http://www.youtube.com/html5
(let youtube/google know *you* would prefer a choice).
Thanks for the link, didn't know about that.
Cheers,
Tom
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 08:39:30AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 10/11/11 Scott Ferguson said:
Choices are nice :-)
http://www.youtube.com/html5
(let youtube/google know *you* would prefer a choice).
Nice link. I'm using Squeeze so I have FF 3.5. I could update outside of
Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default?
I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash is a very
poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image rather than
enhances it.
...
A newcomer
Robert Holtzman wrote:
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
Nice link. I'm using Squeeze so I have FF 3.5. I could update outside of the
.deb package though to something more recent.
A .deb package for firefox? Where?
The Debian Mozilla team makes Firefox deb packages available for
Stable that
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:44:35 +0530
J. Bakshi baksh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:02:55 -0500
Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:10:13 +1100
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/11/11 15:46, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:45:49 -0500
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
On 10/11/11 Celejar said:
And of course, there's always youtube-dl, cclive, etc.
when they work...
fetch config ...done.
verify video link ...error: libquvi: server returned http/404
Beats me -
Celejar wrote:
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
Celejar said:
And of course, there's always youtube-dl, cclive, etc.
when they work...
fetch config ...done.
verify video link ...error: libquvi: server returned http/404
Beats me - they usually work for me (I usually use youtube-dl),
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:26:50 -0700
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
...
Because of this I always use the youtube-dl from Sid. It is a script.
It only depends upon ffmpeg being installed. It runs just fine on
And ffmpeg is not even a hard dependency, only a recommends (not sure
what happens
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
and I don't see youtube-dl packaged for squeeze.
The reason for this, as stated by the maintainer of youtube-dl himself,
is given in this post:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/12/msg00433.html
But the wheezy version appears to be working well in squeeze.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:31:29AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
Robert Holtzman wrote:
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
Nice link. I'm using Squeeze so I have FF 3.5. I could update outside of
the
.deb package though to something more recent.
A .deb package for firefox? Where?
The
Robert Holtzman wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
A .deb package for firefox? Where?
The Debian Mozilla team makes Firefox deb packages available for
Stable that tracks the current release.
http://mozilla.debian.net/
Nothing about FF here or in any of the backport sites I looked at.
On 11/11/11 11:47, Bob Proulx wrote:
Robert Holtzman wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
A .deb package for firefox? Where?
The Debian Mozilla team makes Firefox deb packages available for
Stable that tracks the current release.
http://mozilla.debian.net/
Nothing about FF here or in any of the
Well, not exactly now but at lease Adobe flash is dead for all mobile
devices:
Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-
for-mobile-devices/
Steve Jobs wins: Flash being phased out from mobile devices
http
T o n g wrote:
Well, not exactly now but at lease Adobe flash is dead for all mobile
devices:
Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-
for-mobile-devices/
Steve Jobs wins: Flash being phased out from mobile
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default?
I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash is a very
poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image rather than
enhances it.
Its buggy, a lot of content it cant display, or displays
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:51:14 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default?
Interesting question. Which distributions do that?
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On 11/09/2011 02:51 PM, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default?
I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash is a very
poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image rather than
enhances it.
Its buggy, a lot of
On 11/09/2011 02:51 PM, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default?
I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash is a very
poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image rather than
enhances it.
Its buggy, a lot of
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash
is a very poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image
rather than enhances it.
Why bother
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology
that's dying like BSD these days?
Because right now, realistically it's the only game in town if one wants
to watch flash content. When HTML5 comes along and I am
On 10/11/11 11:10, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default?
Because most GNU/Linux distributions try and provide a secure user
experience. FFflash is the antidote for security.
Gnash can
Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology
that's dying like BSD these days?
Because right now, realistically it's the only game in town if one wants
to watch flash content. When HTML5 comes along and I am able to get rid
of
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but
Gnash is a very poor
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but
Gnash is a very poor
On 10/11/11 13:38, Weaver wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by
default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but
On 09/11/11 Paul Johnson said:
Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology
that's dying like BSD these days?
'cause people like it when their systems...work?
Mike
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On 09/11/11 T o n g said:
Adobe flash is one of the tech-inventions that I resent the most.
Now it is dead for all mobiles, and I wish it is dead on the web tomorrow.
I like watching youtube videos. Silverlight is a problem for me on Linux, so I
find flash to be a good thing by comparison,
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