On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:31:56PM -0400, Mark Carroll wrote:
TBH, part of the problem for me was with apt. It would try to install
packages I didn't have selected, and when I asked WTF dpkg was up to, I
was told it was apt, and then when I'd switch to using dpkg-ftp instead
the problem would
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 06:01:16AM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
but I found it selected and de-selected packages is with a mind of its own,
and also seemed to group them in funny ways that I didn't really understand.
I think aptitude will select Suggested packages by default, but you can
On Sunday 13 October 2002 11:50 am, Josh Rehman wrote:
I want to master Linux. I figure there are two ways to learn Linux
system administration and usage. The first is to install a distribution
and then explore it's nooks and crannies. The second is to begin with a
seed and *grow* the nooks
On Sunday 13 October 2002 12:21 pm, martin f krafft wrote:
[snip]
Install Debian as usual, when asked whether to run dselect or tasksel,
just say no to both. It's that easy.
excellent advice. in fact, i found myself in an involuntary chuckle before i
got to the end of it. it's great to read
also sprach ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.14.0845 +0200]:
excellent advice. in fact, i found myself in an involuntary chuckle before i
got to the end of it. it's great to read that someone whose cunning (welches
wissen (?)) i respect has the same opinion of dselect and tasksel. maybe the
also sprach Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.14.0153 +0200]:
Get a second PC that would normally be junked.
Install linux without X, then use and study it only in console mode.
Get samba and ethernet working so you can browse the linux pc from
the windows box and surf the net for howtos.
Ben said:
excellent advice. in fact, i found myself in an involuntary chuckle before i
got to the end of it. it's great to read that someone whose cunning (welches
wissen (?)) i respect has the same opinion of dselect and tasksel. maybe the
banishing of those two crapapples would help
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:33:19PM +1000, David Pastern wrote:
Ben said:
excellent advice. in fact, i found myself in an involuntary chuckle before i
got to the end of it. it's great to read that someone whose cunning (welches
wissen (?)) i respect has the same opinion of dselect and
On Monday 14 October 2002 12:33 am, David Pastern wrote:
[big snip]
dave, i'll give you a couple of points due to the fact that the subject
header says linux, and not debian. but then, given that it's a debian list, i
have to take back, at least, one of them. in fact, given that you'd have a
Ben said (snipped not in rudeness but to keep it short):
just a rant. don't be offended.
ben
I did speaketh:
Ben I totally understand your point. I actually do agree with a lot of what
you say. Good life story as well :-) I know that microsoft makes its users
dumb and preys on that.
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 06:24, ben wrote:
On Monday 14 October 2002 12:33 am, David Pastern wrote:
[big snip]
dave, i'll give you a couple of points due to the fact that the subject
header says linux, and not debian. but then, given that it's a debian list, i
have to take back, at least,
Perhaps I gave the wrong impression. I am already a competent Linux
user. I am a programmer by trade, and know a smattering of C, Bash, and
Perl. I use Linux extensively at work, and somewhat at home. My idea was
regarding the *mastery* of Linux, not learning it as a newbie. So far,
I've been
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On Monday 14 October 2002 12:23 pm, David Pastern wrote:
I actually don't really use dselect at all (a few times to help get kde 3
I must admit, I quite like dselect. I can browse very quickly through
available packages and find what I am
also sprach Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.14.2200 +0200]:
I must admit, I quite like dselect. I can browse very quickly through
available packages and find what I am looking for very easily (especially
when I don't know the name). In fact I have frequently come across some gems
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.14.2200 +0200]:
I must admit, I quite like dselect. I can browse very quickly through
So do I.
(snip)
you should try aptitude.
TBH, part of the problem for me was with apt. It would try to
I want to master Linux. I figure there are two ways to learn Linux
system administration and usage. The first is to install a distribution
and then explore it's nooks and crannies. The second is to begin with a
seed and *grow* the nooks and crannies as needed. The former method is
overwhelmingly
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 at 11:50am, Josh Rehman wrote:
:I want to master Linux. I figure there are two ways to learn Linux
:system administration and usage. The first is to install a distribution
:and then explore it's nooks and crannies. The second is to begin with a
:seed and *grow* the nooks and
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:50:18AM -0700, Josh Rehman wrote:
I want to master Linux. I figure there are two ways to learn Linux
system administration and usage. The first is to install a distribution
and then explore it's nooks and crannies. The second is to begin with a
seed and *grow* the
also sprach Josh Rehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.10.13.2050 +0200]:
I am looking to understand and manipulate a Linux system with the
minimum number of tools to accomplish certain simple goals. The goals
increase in complexity. Tools should be introduced only as needed to
accomplish a goal
Josh Rehman wrote:
I want to master Linux. I figure there are two ways to learn Linux
system administration and usage. The first is to install a distribution
and then explore it's nooks and crannies. The second is to begin with a
seed and *grow* the nooks and crannies as needed. The former
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