Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 06 October 2013 07:44:22 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 29 aug 13, 12:09:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred characters āēīōū what would be possible methods to type those

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-10-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 21 aug 13, 23:30:19, Bob Proulx wrote: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration That asks me what I want set up for AltGr and Compose. I selected Right Alt and Right Control. That resulted in this configuration in the /etc/default/keyboard file. (Can anyone explain to me what

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-10-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 29 aug 13, 12:09:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred characters āēīōū what would be possible methods to type those in that I should recommend to them? I cannot even

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-10-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrei POPESCU wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: the /etc/default/keyboard file. (Can anyone explain to me what lv3 means in this? The rest is obvious.) XKBOPTIONS=lv3:ralt_switch,compose:rctrl,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp This hasn't been answered as far as I can tell: It had not yet.

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-30 Thread Curt
On 2013-08-29, Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: You obviously learn Latin differently over there too. I have a degree in Latin, and have taught Latin, and have never had to use these characters! That's because it was Latin-1. If you tried Latin-2 you'd see them ;-) Or Latin

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-30 Thread Joel Rees
Sorry about posting this to you off-list, Lisi. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: All worked perfectly as described. Accented

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 30 August 2013 11:09:29 Joel Rees wrote: Sorry about posting this to you off-list, Lisi. I too apologise for therefore reciprocating! On Friday 30 August 2013 10:51:10 Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 21 August

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 29 August 2013 14:17:46 François Patte wrote: Le 29/08/2013 15:15, Stefan Monnier a écrit : You obviously learn Latin differently over there too. I have a degree in Latin, and have taught Latin, and have never had to use these characters! You, maybe, never taught prosody...

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: All worked perfectly as described.  Accented characters are easily input.  But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the bar characters āēīōū.  And I don't see how to input bar characters with the above. Because now I

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 12:09 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: All worked perfectly as described. Accented characters are easily input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the bar characters āēīōū. And I don't see how to

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 13:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 12:09 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: All worked perfectly as described. Accented characters are easily input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PPS: From Inherit the Wind with Spencer Tracy, analogously, use all the words you know and don't care for well-elaborated language, if not everybody is able to understand somebody, than not the people who don't understand are the idiots, but the one who chose words that are not common is an idiot.

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
You obviously learn Latin differently over there too. I have a degree in Latin, and have taught Latin, and have never had to use these characters! That's because it was Latin-1. If you tried Latin-2 you'd see them ;-) Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-29 Thread François Patte
Le 29/08/2013 15:15, Stefan Monnier a écrit : You obviously learn Latin differently over there too. I have a degree in Latin, and have taught Latin, and have never had to use these characters! You, maybe, never taught prosody... -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique

Re: OT: Sanskrit vs Latin (Was: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 22 August 2013 16:56:14 Hendrik Boom wrote: Sanskrit.  It has eight cases, not just six, three numbers, not just singular and plural I didn't know that aboit Sanskrit. Shame on me! Are the three numbers singular, dual and plural, like classical Greek, or something else again?

Re: OT: Sanskrit vs Latin (Was: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 22 August 2013 19:15:25 Doug wrote: On 08/22/2013 01:25 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 19:04 +0200, François Patte wrote: As for Latin, it is better to call it an ancient language, it is still the official language in Vatican. *rofl* my plan was to reply and

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 05:10:05PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: I have the misfortune of never having learned Latin. If you've ever seen the graffiti scene in 'The Life of Brian' then you may use a word other than misfortune. :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread François Patte
Le 21/08/2013 23:37, Bob Proulx a écrit : I am helping someone configure their Debian system. They said they wished to type in special characters. Which I assumed meant accented characters. I had previously read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02068.html And that

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Thierry Chatelet
The Wednesday 21 August 2013 23:37:25, Bob Proulx wrote : I am helping someone configure their Debian system. They said they wished to type in special characters. Which I assumed meant accented characters. I had previously read:

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:53 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 05:10:05PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: I have the misfortune of never having learned Latin. If you've ever seen the graffiti scene in 'The Life of Brian' then you may use a word other than misfortune. :) As I

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qua, 21 Ago 2013, Bob Proulx wrote: So I went off and set up: setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl All worked perfectly as described. Accented characters are easily input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the bar characters āēīōū.

OT: Sanskrit vs Latin (Was: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:51:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:53 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 05:10:05PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: I have the misfortune of never having learned Latin. If you've ever seen the graffiti scene in 'The Life of Brian'

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qua, 21 Ago 2013, Doug wrote: The only time I have run into those odd-ball bar characters--the bar is called a macron--is in schoolboy Latin, where the Romans never heard of them! And the Latin used in Catholic Church liturgies never used the macrons either. Only Latin teachers, to make the

Re: OT: Sanskrit vs Latin (Was: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 15:56 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: And Sanskrit (from some eras, anyway) has German beat for compound words! :D I own a dust covered Bhagavad-Gītā written in Sanskrit, with a word by word translation followed by an interpretation (not called interpretation, but explanation

Re: OT: Sanskrit vs Latin (Was: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 15:56 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: And Sanskrit (from some eras, anyway) has German beat for compound words! :D I own a dust covered Bhagavad-Gītā written in Sanskrit, with a word by word translation followed by

Re: OT: Sanskrit vs Latin (Was: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread François Patte
Le 22/08/2013 17:56, Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:51:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:53 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 05:10:05PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: I have the misfortune of never having learned Latin. If you've ever seen

Re: OT: Sanskrit vs Latin (Was: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 19:04 +0200, François Patte wrote: As for Latin, it is better to call it an ancient language, it is still the official language in Vatican. *rofl* my plan was to reply and to ask you, if it's their official language, than why don't they provide their homepage in Latin.

Re: OT: Sanskrit vs Latin (Was: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-22 Thread Doug
On 08/22/2013 01:25 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 19:04 +0200, François Patte wrote: As for Latin, it is better to call it an ancient language, it is still the official language in Vatican. *rofl* my plan was to reply and to ask you, if it's their official language, than why

Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
I am helping someone configure their Debian system. They said they wished to type in special characters. Which I assumed meant accented characters. I had previously read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02068.html And that pointed me off to the very nicely written article:

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Doug
On 08/21/2013 05:37 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: I am helping someone configure their Debian system. They said they wished to type in special characters. Which I assumed meant accented characters. I had previously read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02068.html And that

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Doug wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the bar characters āēīōū. And I don't see how to input bar characters with the above. Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred characters āēīōū what would be

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Doug
On 08/21/2013 06:33 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred characters āēīōū what would be possible methods to type those in that I should recommend to them? Thanks! Bob How did you create those characters in the email? And why wouldn't

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 18:33 -0400, Doug wrote: The only time I have run into those odd-ball bar characters--the bar is called a macron--is in schoolboy Latin, where the Romans never heard of them! On of the school subjects I had was Latin and I never heard of them too :D. To be fair, I didn't

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 17:10 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: I have the misfortune of never having learned Latin. What a pity, such a useful language ;). Be happy, learning Latin does cause personality disorders ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

OT: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 03:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Sum, es, est, sumus, estis, sunt, rusticus porcus est, errare humanum est Perhaps I should translate: I am, you are, he|she|it is, we are, you are, they are, the farmer is a pig, to err is human -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Carl Johnson
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: I am helping someone configure their Debian system. They said they wished to type in special characters. Which I assumed meant accented characters. I had previously read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02068.html And that pointed

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Carl Johnson wrote: Bob Proulx writes: That seemed to have been the best recommendation. So I went off and set up: setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl ... I just have a Compose (AltGr) key set with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and I can type them by using the