Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 19 dec 12, 22:36:30, Lisi Reisz wrote: Did you run a check on the CD? I still use MD5sum, but I have to point out that it is deprecated now. The world has moved on. I think that everyone else now uses SHA-2 or even SHA-3. MD5 is fine for integrity checks, just don't rely on it

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 19 December 2012 22:58:07 salamandir wrote: On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:36:30 PM, Lisi Reisz, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: What is Squeeze '2' (live or otherwise)? What does the 2 mean? i don't remember the link i got Squeeze 2 from, but i have seen

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:40 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: MD5 is fine for integrity checks, just don't rely on it for security. I wasn't aware about this. However, I'm naive, I believe that the Linux downloads are secure and I indeed use MD5 just to check integrity. Since I'm a K3b users, the

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 20 dec 12, 15:14:25, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:40 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: MD5 is fine for integrity checks, just don't rely on it for security. I wasn't aware about this. However, I'm naive, I believe that the Linux downloads are secure and I indeed use MD5

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
OT: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 23:55 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: I usually try to stick with GTK apps only, to avoid installing also the QT libraries. So far I haven't done quite so good, but there is still hope :p Unfortunately a good Linux audio coder does use Qt. http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/

hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
i put the squeeze 2 live disk in to the CD drive on my computer and rebooted. it booted into debian, and i clicked on the Debian Installer icon i saw on the desktop. it gathered the appropriate information and then... it /hung/ while displaying the Starting the partitioner window. i left it

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 19 December 2012 21:13:42 salamandir wrote: i put the squeeze 2 live disk in to the CD drive on my computer and rebooted. it booted into debian, and i clicked on the Debian Installer icon i saw on the desktop. [snip] please tell me where i went wrong and how i can get beyond

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:36:30 PM, Lisi Reisz, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: What is Squeeze '2' (live or otherwise)? What does the 2 mean? i don't remember the link i got Squeeze 2 from, but i have seen references to Squeeze 2C and Squeeze 2D on this mailing list

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread berenger . morel
You are thinking too much in Kubuntu speak. i'm doing fairly well, considering that my pre-linux language was mac or windows, and i have been using linux /exclusively/ since 2000 or there abouts... You are older than me in linux world then. But time is in nothing related to knowledge, it

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:41:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: As far as I understood, you used a live CD, which is the Ubuntu's way to do things. Official Debian website only have basic installation CDs/DVDs, which does not give you a

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I can't write often enough that it's nonsense to claim distro X is better or less good than distro Y. It depends to the version of the distro, to your needs and to your hardware. Do we all feel the best, if we heat our flats as we do it now, or should we all heat the flats a little bit more or a

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 14:58 -0800, salamandir wrote: i'm sure i downloaded the ISO from the debian.com web site... That's good, nobody should install any distro from a magazine's media. They often provide very obscure install media. i *AM* using an install CD, as i said in my original post.

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 01:13:10 AM, Ralf Mardorf, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: I can't write often enough that it's nonsense to claim distro X is better or less good than distro Y. what you say is entirely reasonable. i have been using kubuntu since dapper, and with

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 16:49 -0800, salamandir wrote: i have been using kubuntu since dapper, and with precise it managed to tip my scale from useful to too buggy to be useful which is why i decided to switch distros. My machine is a *NIX multi-boot. I add a FreeBSD to my many Linux installs,

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread salamandir
On Thursday, December 20, 2012 02:29:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf, an eminent manifestation of divinity, wrote: However, I used Debian stable amd64 and testing amd64 and AVLinux (a 32bit Debian stable), both for my needs are less god than the broken Ubuntu. I'm switching between Debian and Ubuntu

Re: hanging up during debian install??

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Because I needed new hardware I couldn't keep a stable Linux install that satisfied my needs. Never change a winning team! If there's no need to update, keep a stable install, make backups and to test newer Linux versions at least have a dual-boot. If I could use my old stable install, I still