Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Tue July 31 2007 18:17, David Fox wrote: Looking at a debian ftp site that I use (#1 listing in my sources.list) I see: debian/pool/non-free/n ls -l nvi* drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jul 7 08:35 nvidia-graphics-drivers drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Dec 7 2006 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-71xx drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-96xx drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 22 08:42 nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-amd64 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-amd64 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-amd64 drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64 drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-i386 drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Nov 21 2006 nvidia-modules-i386 Note there is no nvidia-kernel-source. Your right. I just had a look at packages.debian.org and had a look for it. It isn't in testing at the moment. I'm not sure why. Poking around with various 'apt-cache policy' commands on some of those files, all I get are unable to locate package such and such errors. I've tried nvidia-graphics-drivers, nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx. If it is in 'pool that doesn't necessarily mean that these files are in testing, does it? OTOH, look at the file dates. That's right, they may be in stable or unstable. The why is package X not in testing page does have some info - says there is no new version in testing, and is trying to add, not update. I also have unstable lines in my sources.list so that must be where I got them from. If you don't mind doing the same that may work better for you. I always add the following to my /etc/apt/apt.conf so I don't get stuff from unstable unexpectedly (mind you I was unaware I got the nvidia stuff from unstable!) -- /etc/apt/apt.conf -- APT::Default-Release testing; -- end -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On 7/30/07, Alan Ianson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you run apt-get update, and is your mirror up to date? I just switched to 2.6.21 from 2.6.22 an hour ago and had no problem with the same version of the nvidia-kernel-source. Sure have. I'm using ftp.debian.org , and I just went there and found under debian/pool/n this stuff: I ran apt-get update (or rather aptitude update) yesterday, and updated a few things in the process. Looking at a debian ftp site that I use (#1 listing in my sources.list) I see: debian/pool/non-free/n ls -l nvi* drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jul 7 08:35 nvidia-graphics-drivers drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Dec 7 2006 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-71xx drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 21 20:34 nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-96xx drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 22 08:42 nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-amd64 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-71xx-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-amd64 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 25 20:30 nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-amd64 drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-legacy-modules-i386 drwxr-xr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-amd64 drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Jun 27 08:34 nvidia-graphics-modules-i386 drwxr-sr-x 2 1176 1176 4096 Nov 21 2006 nvidia-modules-i386 Note there is no nvidia-kernel-source. Poking around with various 'apt-cache policy' commands on some of those files, all I get are unable to locate package such and such errors. I've tried nvidia-graphics-drivers, nvidia-graphics-legacy-96xx. If it is in 'pool that doesn't necessarily mean that these files are in testing, does it? OTOH, look at the file dates. The why is package X not in testing page does have some info - says there is no new version in testing, and is trying to add, not update.
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
Alan Lanson wrote: module-assistant prepare or m-a prepare module-assistant auto-install nvidia or m-a a-i nvidia OK I tried that, it fails with the message that there's no nvidia-kernel-source available.
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On 7/28/07, David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hints? OK well, running the patched driver available was a good suggestion, but it fails miserably on my system. here's the attached error log nvidia-installer.log Description: Binary data
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
David Fox wrote: On 7/28/07, *David Fox* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hints? OK well, running the patched driver available was a good suggestion, but it fails miserably on my system. here's the attached error log Looks like you need to remove the old driver first. I don't know if that is a debian version driver or not. I could not find any info on the driver version 1.0-9755 that you have installed. If it is a debian driver, do an aptitude remove nvidia-glx and make sure all it's dependant packages get removed too: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/nvidia-glx The error you are getting has to do with the old driver installed:/ - Uninstalling NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 (1.0-9755): WARNING: Unable to restore symbolic link /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 - libGL.so.1.2 (File exists). ERROR: Unable to create '/usr/lib/dosemu/drive_z/tmp/selfgz20192/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1/ usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9755' for copying (No such file or directory) WARNING: Unable to restore file '/usr/lib/dosemu/drive_z/tmp/selfgz20192/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg 1/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9755'. ERROR: Unable to create '/usr/lib/dosemu/drive_z/tmp/selfgz20192/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1/ usr/lib/libnvidia-cfg.so.1.0.9755' for copying (No such file or directory)/ Sam
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On 7/30/07, Sam Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if that is a debian version driver or not. I could not find any info on the driver version 1.0-9755 that you have installed. If it is a debian driver, do an aptitude remove nvidia-glx and make sure all it's dependant packages get removed too: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/nvidia-glx apt-cache pollicy says there's no installation candidate for nvidia-glx. Version 1.0.9755 was the nvidia driver that I was using when I was running Etch, back in May. The error you are getting has to do with the old driver installed:* - Uninstalling NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 (1.0-9755 ): WARNING: Unable to restore symbolic link /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 - libGL.so.1.2 (File exists). ERROR: Unable to create '/usr/lib/dosemu/drive_z/tmp/selfgz20192/NVIDIA- Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1/ usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9755' for copying (No such file or directory)* I don't even have a libGL.so.1 file nlow (and amarok needs it). I can still run X, barely. (no GL at all). I just don't understand why this thing won't work. And especially, why is it trying to place packages in/usr/lib/dosemu? Sam
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Mon July 30 2007 19:27, David Fox wrote: Alan Lanson wrote: module-assistant prepare or m-a prepare module-assistant auto-install nvidia or m-a a-i nvidia OK I tried that, it fails with the message that there's no nvidia-kernel-source available. You will need to have non-free (and probably contrib) along with main in your main debian archive lines in /etc/apt/sources.list. Reading into the thread a bit you may have some problems getting the module built with a 2.6.21 kernel (unless you build your own with config paravirt_ops diabled). It can be done but it may take an extra push. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On 7/30/07, Alan Ianson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will need to have non-free (and probably contrib) along with main in your main debian archive lines in /etc/apt/sources.list. I already checked that - I do have non-free and contrib enabled. Reading into the thread a bit you may have some problems getting the module built with a 2.6.21 kernel (unless you build your own with config paravirt_ops diabled). It can be done but it may take an extra push. Supposedly that's what the patehed version of the 100.14.11 driver solves.
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Mon July 30 2007 22:00, David Fox wrote: On 7/30/07, Alan Ianson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will need to have non-free (and probably contrib) along with main in your main debian archive lines in /etc/apt/sources.list. I already checked that - I do have non-free and contrib enabled. Have you run apt-get update, and is your mirror up to date? I just switched to 2.6.21 from 2.6.22 an hour ago and had no problem with the same version of the nvidia-kernel-source. Reading into the thread a bit you may have some problems getting the module built with a 2.6.21 kernel (unless you build your own with config paravirt_ops diabled). It can be done but it may take an extra push. Supposedly that's what the patehed version of the 100.14.11 driver solves. Good. I haven't needed that since I haven't had problems with the GPL-only export on amd64 for reasons unknown. Lucky in this case I guess. I struggled when etch was testing.. ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 05:23:26PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote: On Sat July 28 2007 15:45, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch. Are you running an amd64 there? I have had no trouble on the amd64 with the nvidia drivers. There a couple issues that I know of for the i386 but amd64 has been painless.. :) Yes I'm running amd64. However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64 box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not work. But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it doesn't work. You go back to the working partition. My other boxes are a 486 and a PII and etch stuff needs so much memory that using them to 'rescue' the amd64 is painful. I've tried it as part of verifying my backup strategy but its difficult. So, in effect, my Athlon box for me is mission-critical and I'll stick with stable now that its etch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:19:47AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Yes I'm running amd64. However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64 box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not work. But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it doesn't work. You go back to the working partition. The box uses LVM so I can't give Lenny its own actual disk partitions. Also, downloading a whole new installation is non-trivial at 28.8 Kb/s (sometimes 14.4, sometimes 9600). I'm many miles from the telephone exchange. It took a few days to install an ia32 chroot with just base, mc, lynx, and iceweasel. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:19:47AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Yes I'm running amd64. However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64 box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not work. But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it doesn't work. You go back to the working partition. The box uses LVM so I can't give Lenny its own actual disk partitions. Also, downloading a whole new installation is non-trivial at 28.8 Kb/s (sometimes 14.4, sometimes 9600). I'm many miles from the telephone exchange. It took a few days to install an ia32 chroot with just base, mc, lynx, and iceweasel. True. I forgot: you stated before that you were using LVM. I am running on a dialup modem myself and the last Sid upgrade took 2.5 days. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia drivers (the non-free ones) the debian way. There doesn't seem to be an avalable version of nvidia-kernel-source for my particular kernel (I was running 2.6.18-4-k7, but I just upgraded to 2.6.21-2-k7 a few moments ago. I'm using http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/, and http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers as reference documents. There is also no nvidia-glx in testing. There has been some discussion on the list recently regarding some updates to X.org video drivers, which have unfortunately caused my existing nvidia setup to no longer work, so currently I am using the nv driver. From the instructions it would seem my current card (Geforce FX 5200) should be supported by the non-legacy or regular driver. According to the testing status page ( http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx) it would seem that testing is waiting for the newer driver package, which seems to be ATM availalbe in sid/unstable. Question - is it safe to retry the nvidia driver at this point? Last I tried, I ended up with a fairly unusable system and had to renstall most of X and go back to using the nv driver. If that is doable, I figure it would be better to do this the debian way and although I posted about this before, I probably would want to go ahead and add unstable sources to my sources.list and install that way. Or, I could wait until these are available in testing, but I don't have a clue low long that would take. (In a previous thread, it was opined that it would only take a few days or so.) Hints? thanks.
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
David Fox wrote: I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia drivers (the non-free ones) the debian way. There doesn't seem to be an avalable version of nvidia-kernel-source for my particular kernel (I was running 2.6.18-4-k7, but I just upgraded to 2.6.21-2-k7 a few moments ago. I'm using http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ http://home.comcast.net/%7Eandrex/Debian-nVidia/, and http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers as reference documents. There is also no nvidia-glx in testing. There has been some discussion on the list recently regarding some updates to X.org http://X.org video drivers, which have unfortunately caused my existing nvidia setup to no longer work, so currently I am using the nv driver. From the instructions it would seem my current card (Geforce FX 5200) should be supported by the non-legacy or regular driver. According to the testing status page (http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx) it would seem that testing is waiting for the newer driver package, which seems to be ATM availalbe in sid/unstable. Question - is it safe to retry the nvidia driver at this point? Last I tried, I ended up with a fairly unusable system and had to renstall most of X and go back to using the nv driver. If that is doable, I figure it would be better to do this the debian way and although I posted about this before, I probably would want to go ahead and add unstable sources to my sources.list and install that way. Or, I could wait until these are available in testing, but I don't have a clue low long that would take. (In a previous thread, it was opined that it would only take a few days or so.) Hints? thanks. Yes, the current kernel will not let you compile the module for the nvidia drivers. There is a patched driver out that you can use that will work that gets around this problem: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=88132#88132 This is what happens when you try to run the official nvidia driver script: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=432746 Sam
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Sat July 28 2007 14:38, David Fox wrote: I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia drivers (the non-free ones) the debian way. There doesn't seem to be an avalable version of nvidia-kernel-source for my particular kernel (I was running 2.6.18-4-k7, but I just upgraded to 2.6.21-2-k7 I might suggest that you install the 2.6.22 kernel from unstable. I had problems building the kernel module for k7 because of a GPL-only export that isn't an issue with 2.6.22 kernels. You can use the 2.6.21 kernel but you will need to build your own with paravirt_ops disabled. a few moments ago. I'm using http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/, and http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers as reference documents. There is also no nvidia-glx in testing. They are in testing, I'm using them now.. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Sat July 28 2007 14:38, David Fox wrote: I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia drivers (the non-free ones) the debian way. There doesn't seem to be an avalable version of nvidia-kernel-source for my particular kernel (I was running 2.6.18-4-k7, but I just upgraded to 2.6.21-2-k7 a few moments ago. I'm using http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/, and http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers as reference documents. There is also no nvidia-glx in testing. There has been some discussion on the list recently regarding some updates to X.org video drivers, which have unfortunately caused my existing nvidia setup to no longer work, so currently I am using the nv driver. From the instructions it would seem my current card (Geforce FX 5200) should be supported by the non-legacy or regular driver. According to the testing status page ( http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx) it would seem that testing is waiting for the newer driver package, which seems to be ATM availalbe in sid/unstable. Question - is it safe to retry the nvidia driver at this point? Last I tried, I ended up with a fairly unusable system and had to renstall most of X and go back to using the nv driver. If that is doable, I figure it would be better to do this the debian way and although I posted about this before, I probably would want to go ahead and add unstable sources to my sources.list and install that way. Or, I could wait until these are available in testing, but I don't have a clue low long that would take. (In a previous thread, it was opined that it would only take a few days or so.) Hints? I don't know if this is the debian way but this is how I do it. I am running testing with kernel-2.6.22-2-amd64 at the moment but have also run the 2.6.21 kernel until recently along with the nvidia drivers without any issues at all. There are no pre-built kernel modules in testing or unstable, I build them with module-assistant. module-assistant prepare or m-a prepare module-assistant auto-install nvidia or m-a a-i nvidia Also install nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-ia32 if appropriate. Run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the nvidia driver and set the rest of it up to your liking. If all goes well (and I'm sure it will) restart x and you should be good to go.. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On 2007-07-28 15:10:31 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote: I might suggest that you install the 2.6.22 kernel from unstable. I had problems building the kernel module for k7 because of a GPL-only export that isn't an issue with 2.6.22 kernels. But for another reason, it doesn't work with 2.6.22: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=434379 -- Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 02:38:44PM -0700, David Fox wrote: I'm browsing howto's at the moment and attempting to get the nvidia drivers (the non-free ones) the debian way. According to the testing status page ( http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx) it would seem that testing is waiting for the newer driver package, which seems to be ATM availalbe in sid/unstable. Or, I could wait until these are available in testing, but I don't have a clue low long that would take. (In a previous thread, it was opined that it would only take a few days or so.) IIRC, things go into testing if they haven't changed in Sid for 10 days. Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch. Good luck, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Sat July 28 2007 16:35, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2007-07-28 15:10:31 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote: I might suggest that you install the 2.6.22 kernel from unstable. I had problems building the kernel module for k7 because of a GPL-only export that isn't an issue with 2.6.22 kernels. But for another reason, it doesn't work with 2.6.22: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=434379 That's a bummer. I've had that problem before having on older version of gcc and not a newer one. I managed to get it built by installing a newer gcc, not to sure how one would get past this one. Being on amd64 I have safely bypassed all of these issues somehow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Sat July 28 2007 15:45, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch. Are you running an amd64 there? I have had no trouble on the amd64 with the nvidia drivers. There a couple issues that I know of for the i386 but amd64 has been painless.. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 05:23:26PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote: On Sat July 28 2007 15:45, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch. Are you running an amd64 there? I have had no trouble on the amd64 with the nvidia drivers. There a couple issues that I know of for the i386 but amd64 has been painless.. :) Yes I'm running amd64. However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64 box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not work. My other boxes are a 486 and a PII and etch stuff needs so much memory that using them to 'rescue' the amd64 is painful. I've tried it as part of verifying my backup strategy but its difficult. So, in effect, my Athlon box for me is mission-critical and I'll stick with stable now that its etch. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
