Re: lpr remote printing
On Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 02:49:36AM -0600, Alex Romosan wrote: the problem is the missing link to /var/spool from /usr/spool. since base-files_1.6.1 has removed this link as it is against FHS, it might be put back in before the release, but it is good that we can find broken packages now. there are no references to /usr/spool/lpd in lpd, this most certainly comes from the /etc/printcap file. it certainly does on my system (the printcap is generated automatically by the distributed printing people). which brings up one of the things that i am beginning to find annoying about linux these days: this so called file system standard, which seems to be getting weirder and weirder every day, and more and more different than the other unixes. i used unix long before there was even linux, and for a while it was a pleasure to watch linux transform itself into a full fledged unix-like operating system. but now it is beginning to suffer from the emacs syndrome, insisting on doing things its own way for the sake of being different (or so it seems to me). don't get me wrong, i love linux and emacs (i am typing this in emacs on a debian/linux machine) but i do think that the fsf people suffer form terminal grandeur and debian, by choosing to follow them so closely, is beginning to exhibit the same symptoms. There is no correct level of backwards compatability, I find Linux refreshing that it doesn't shy away from severing backwards compatibly links although your point is a good one. Indeed one of the main reasons for the DFSG is that it means that we *can* fix all the packages in main. We have twenty different unixes and one NT - which do *you* think is easier^H^H^H^H^Hcheaper to port to :-( Unfortunately the computer industry is the most backwards one in the world IMHO. VHS vs Betamax is often quoted as an example of bad technology winning over good technology, but the computer industry is just depressing: PCs, x86 chips, (E)IDE, TCP/IP, Ethernet, MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 95, NT, the list goes on... One of the few exceptions seem to be 3.5 disks which did eventually oust 5.25. Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | Because bloated, unstable PGP key available on public key servers | operating systems are from MS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lpr remote printing
the problem is the missing link to /var/spool from /usr/spool. since there are no references to /usr/spool/lpd in lpd, this most certainly comes from the /etc/printcap file. it certainly does on my system (the printcap is generated automatically by the distributed printing people). which brings up one of the things that i am beginning to find annoying about linux these days: this so called file system standard, which seems to be getting weirder and weirder every day, and more and more different than the other unixes. i used unix long before there was even linux, and for a while it was a pleasure to watch linux transform itself into a full fledged unix-like operating system. but now it is beginning to suffer from the emacs syndrome, insisting on doing things its own way for the sake of being different (or so it seems to me). don't get me wrong, i love linux and emacs (i am typing this in emacs on a debian/linux machine) but i do think that the fsf people suffer form terminal grandeur and debian, by choosing to follow them so closely, is beginning to exhibit the same symptoms. --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: lpr remote printing
On Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 02:49:36AM -0600, Alex Romosan wrote: people). which brings up one of the things that i am beginning to find annoying about linux these days: this so called file system standard, which seems to be getting weirder and weirder every day, and more and more different than the other unixes. i used unix long before there was even linux, and for a while it was a pleasure to watch linux transform itself into a full fledged unix-like operating system. but now it is beginning to suffer from the emacs syndrome, insisting on doing things its own way for the sake of being different (or so it I don't think it's for the sake of being different. Usually, there's a genuine (and good) reason. For example, I recently installed FreeBSD 2.2.5 here and was surprised to find that all the non-essential software was installed into /usr/local. When I asked my local expert, he said it's because that's the way traditional BSD systems are installed. But is that a good reason? I don't think so. To me, the FSSTND gives a very nice, pure system; a fresh FreeBSD install does not feel the same. (These comments are not instended to be anti-FreeBSD, since the same applies to Solaris, BSDI, etc). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
lpr remote printing
I'm the maintainer of the lpr package, and there is a bug report saying that remote printing doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks, Adam Klein pgphQYNr9IHEg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lpr remote printing
On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 11:08:28AM -0800, Adam Klein wrote: I'm the maintainer of the lpr package, and there is a bug report saying that remote printing doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? Well, it works just fine here from 5.9-20.2 (client) to 5.9-20 (server), and from 5.9-21 to 5.9-20 too. But the bug report talks about printing from DOS software. But Warning: no daemon present ^^ Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stnobody 209 C:\TMP\~lpt1D12.TMP 839 bytes This could be a telltale sign. Perhaps the original reporter had other lpr problems and it just seemed to be a remote printing problem? I think one of my machines has an lpr installed on DOS, I will check it out (but it's not the same implementation mentioned in the bug report). hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org pgpRvrqCaq1uy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lpr remote printing
On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 03:16:44PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 11:08:28AM -0800, Adam Klein wrote: I'm the maintainer of the lpr package, and there is a bug report saying that remote printing doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? Well, it works just fine here from 5.9-20.2 (client) to 5.9-20 (server), and from 5.9-21 to 5.9-20 too. But the bug report talks about printing from DOS software. But Actually, this is a different bug, #18295. It was reported against the latest version 5.9-23. The reason I wanted reports from other people is that I can't test the remote printing features of lpr myself. However, I wouldn't mind some help with the DOS problem. Warning: no daemon present ^^ Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stnobody 209 C:\TMP\~lpt1D12.TMP 839 bytes This could be a telltale sign. Perhaps the original reporter had other lpr problems and it just seemed to be a remote printing problem? lpq will give this warning message when it has inadequate permissions. I think one of my machines has an lpr installed on DOS, I will check it out (but it's not the same implementation mentioned in the bug report). Thanks, Adam Klein pgpQy1vLtMUSZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lpr remote printing
On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 08:28:52PM -0800, Adam Klein wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 1998 at 03:16:44PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 1998 at 11:08:28AM -0800, Adam Klein wrote: I'm the maintainer of the lpr package, and there is a bug report saying that remote printing doesn't work. Has anyone else had this problem? Actually, this is a different bug, #18295. It was reported against the latest version 5.9-23. The reason I wanted reports from other people is that I can't test the remote printing features of lpr myself. However, I wouldn't mind some help with the DOS problem. It seems the reported bug is that you can't print from 5.9-23. I just upgraded my lpr here to 5.9-23; the server is still running 5.9-20.2 (it's a bo machione). lpr still prints fine. Perhaps it's a configuration error. Some excerpts from my printcap below; this is a bit messy because I'm using a script to do bounce queues, so that I can apply local filters. lp|lj|lj5l|HP LaserJet 5L:\ :lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj5l:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/printall:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\ rawlj|raw laserjet on silly:\ :lp=/dev/null:rm=silly.rising.com.au:rp=lj:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0: And /usr/local/bin/printall says #!/bin/sh /usr/sbin/ljet4l-filter $* | /usr/bin/lpr -Prawlj Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org pgpK0ldlXrB2j.pgp Description: PGP signature
