Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Mar 13, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote: it should be probably replaced by elvis-tiny , even on distribution disks... 1. not everyone knows how to use vi 2. ae is *small*. lots smaller then elvis-tiny. We

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Alexander Hvostov
John Galt wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Chris Lawrence wrote: On Mar 13, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote: it should be probably replaced by elvis-tiny , even on distribution disks... 1. not everyone knows how to use vi 2. ae is *small*. lots smaller then

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 12:57:07AM -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote: 1) nano-tiny is relatively easy to use. 2) nano-tiny has fewer bugs. Using a non-vi-compatable editor on boot disks is a hanging offense that debian will pay for once sysadmins try to install Debian but realize they have better

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 12:42:10AM -0800, Aaron Lehmann wrote: would be excusable if it was emacs-compatable, but it's not. e3 supports vi, emacs, wordstar, AND pico bindings. It just depends whether you type vi, emacs, or pico to start it. .. but is not suitable as it's not portable. Hamish

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Korsgaard
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: would be excusable if it was emacs-compatable, but it's not. e3 supports vi, emacs, wordstar, AND pico bindings. It just depends whether you type vi, emacs, or pico to start it. Hamish .. but is not suitable as it's not portable. Isn't

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 11:03:39AM +0100, Peter Korsgaard wrote: Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: would be excusable if it was emacs-compatable, but it's not. e3 supports vi, emacs, wordstar, AND pico bindings. It just depends whether you type vi, emacs, or pico to

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Korsgaard
Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish I thought somebody said they made a mistake and there is no C Hamish version -- just the i386 assembler. No the package both contains an asm version for i386 machines and a version in C for other architectures. Someone said the C

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 01:47:06PM +0100, Peter Korsgaard wrote: Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish I thought somebody said they made a mistake and there is no C Hamish version -- just the i386 assembler. No the package both contains an asm version for i386

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread Justin B Rye
Aaron Lehmann wrote: Using a non-vi-compatable editor on boot disks is a hanging offense that debian will pay for once sysadmins try to install Debian but realize they have better things to do than learn a whimpy editor. It would be excusable if it was emacs-compatable, but it's not. e3

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-14 Thread will trillich
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:31:43PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: Quoting Matus \fantomas\ Uhlar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Here is what I got: - - - - File read and write ^X I ^X^W Left, down, up, right ^B ^N ^P - ^F - - what the heck is this editor? - -

visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Jack
# User privilege specification rootALL=(ALL) ALL what the heck is this editor? how to let visudo use vi instead? thanks, jack

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread kmself
visudo use vi instead? man visudo Check your environment, particularly $EDITOR and $VISUAL. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Matus \fantomas\ Uhlar
- Here is what I got: - - - - File read and write ^X I ^X^W Left, down, up, right ^B ^N ^P - ^F - - what the heck is this editor? - - ae. It's supposed to be an easy editor. I find it's a pain in the ass. agreed, wtf it's still in the base distribution? it should be

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote: it should be probably replaced by elvis-tiny , even on distribution disks... 1. not everyone knows how to use vi 2. ae is *small*. lots smaller then elvis-tiny. Wichert. -- / Generally

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:12:34PM +0100, Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote: agreed, wtf it's still in the base distribution? it should be probably replaced by elvis-tiny , even on distribution disks... it has. check debian-boot archives. comments? -- Ethan Benson

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Drew Parsons
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:12:34PM +0100, Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote: - Here is what I got: - - - - File read and write ^X I ^X^W Left, down, up, right ^B ^N ^P Shouldn't that be up up down down... ;) Drew -- PGP public key available at

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Nick Croft
Just do: vim /etc/sudoers You don't need visudo N

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Colin Watson
Nick Croft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just do: vim /etc/sudoers You don't need visudo Read the man page - using visudo is a good idea, assuming you've set $EDITOR properly. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Nick Croft
point taken.

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting Matus \fantomas\ Uhlar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Here is what I got: - - - - File read and write ^X I ^X^W Left, down, up, right ^B ^N ^P - ^F - - what the heck is this editor? - - ae. It's supposed to be an easy editor. I find it's a pain in the ass.

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Matus \fantomas\ Uhlar
- Previously Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote: - it should be probably replaced by elvis-tiny , even on distribution disks... - - 1. not everyone knows how to use vi - 2. ae is *small*. lots smaller then elvis-tiny. requires more libraries... -- Matus fantomas Uhlar, sysadmin at NEXTRA, Slovakia;

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Mar 13, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Matus fantomas Uhlar wrote: it should be probably replaced by elvis-tiny , even on distribution disks... 1. not everyone knows how to use vi 2. ae is *small*. lots smaller then elvis-tiny. We probably should change to nano-tiny, because (a)

Re: visudo not vi?

2001-03-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 05:31:43PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: that emacs is just to big for this purpose. So came ae, which let's you have a little of both worlds (at a big cost in both worlds unfortunatly, but that's usually what a compromise will do). You mean the worst of both worlds,