Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Joey Schulze wrote:
15 months, while with DM, it would have been only few days...
No. You won't be able to fix it unless you have become a DM with
exactly the dvidvi package and thus are allowed to upload a fixed
version. Otherwise you
Le Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 08:58:53PM +0200, Joey Schulze:
for me. There are two ways to do that:
- I make my own custom package that fix the bug (or add required
software), I use it, I make it available to my friends on my web
site, and that's all;
- I try to make it available in
Benjamin BAYART [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Le Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 09:01:51PM +0200, Sven Luther:
First, my mail won't reach the list, since i am currently being unfairly
censored and banned from posting on debian lists, so if you judge this
mail worthwhile, you can forward it.
Uh?
Sven has
On Sunday 24 June 2007 15:10, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
My point is that, when I find a software that is broken, what should I
do with it if there is no DD to maintain it? Your point leads to
answering let it be broken, since you do not want to spend hours every
week reading mailing lists.
I
Benjamin BAYART wrote:
During my discussions with DDs, I found there is currently no solution
This is where you are wrong. The correct way to handle this, is to be
part of a team, working on the tex packages and providing fixes, and if
there is an upload needed, a DD member of the team
For me, I do want to be part of Debian anymore does not coincide with
I
want to upload to Debian. Someone who uploads to Debian *is* part of
the
community.
I see no reason to vote for a proposal that facilitates people who
explicitly
denounce Debian to be granted rights to the same
On Sunday 24 June 2007 16:07, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
One should be entirely devoted
to the sect, and thus become a DD, or entirely out of the thing, and
thus contribute nothing.
I use Debian for only technical reasons, basically because dpkg works
better than rpm, and because files tend to
I do not think that this is a fair characterisation of what is required
of
being a DD. There's no requirement to read any list except
debian-devel-announce, which has less than one post per day on average.
There's no need to get involved in licensing discussions, except of
course
when
Benjamin,
it seems to me that neither NM nor DM is suited for you. Reporting broken
stuff and optionally attaching a patch later or at the same time is the
way to go. In case of TeX packages, there's the TeX maintainer team that
will probably take care of your fix. In case of other packages,
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip/
Debian Maintainers Proposal
The Debian Project endorses the concept of Debian Maintainers with
limited access, and resolves to
snip/
As by now only few people have participated in this thread that are
candidates for DM, I want to give
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
If you are _that_ interested in helping the TeX packaging team, join
it, I think it's co-maintained on alioth, you just need an alioth
account, it takes a few minutes to have one, and you'll have to ask the
pkg-tex people to give you commits rights, which should do
On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 04:48:22PM +0200, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
That is probably a good way to shape a young contributor begginning in
free software contributions. I would probably have done that, 15 years
ago. But nowadays, I'm involved in a lot of projects, some are of
importance, at least
* Benjamin BAYART [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070624 17:11]:
Yes. So, the right solution if I want to help is:
- first I spend a lot of time proving that I'm skilled enough to read
crazy licenses in a language that is not mine
There is hardly any package thinkable, where one can be sure the
Benjamin BAYART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, right now, when I have troubles with Debian/TeX stuff, I tend to
solve it on my computer, and just report nothing, since reporting is
useless.
I disagree since when you report a bug and even contribute a patch
and add links to your own fixed
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
You say you knew several, so maybe you can give some details as to their
reasons for this.
Yes, I already explained this I guess in some former thread.
I know Benjamin Bayart, who's a TeX expert and who
Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 24 June 2007 16:48, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
not to go through NM just to upload a fix or two every year.
I find it hard to believe that you cannot find a sponsor to upload a fix
around twice a year. Have you tried to ask the Debian TeX
Benjamin BAYART [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the TeX team, or in relation with TeX team, are some great experts,
and I do interract well with them when there is an opportunity. By the
way, what is done now in the combination of TeXlive and Debian is very
close to (and seem to take some ideas
Yes. So, the right solution if I want to help is:
- first I spend a lot of time proving that I'm skilled enough to read
crazy licenses in a language that is not mine
No, you only have to do this if you want to package software and upload
it into the archive without review.
- then I spend
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