Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither is the argument I'm making. The argument I'm making is that because it's likely there are better ways of doing things than the way we're doing things now (ie, though foo is the way we've always done things, there probably exists some bar that is

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread MJ Ray
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Why is no one responding to the fact that the last ingestion of new blood did not solve the problems? [...] Myself, I have not yet confirmed whether that claim is fact or not, and if it did not solve the problems, whether it eased them

Re: Q: Marc Brockschmidt: tight-knitted groups of friends

2008-03-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: OTOH, experience shows that enforced addition of new members doesn't work as one would expect. What case are you referring to? I don't think it ever happened up to now. In most cases, the additional members have been approved but only by a

Re: Q: Marc Brockschmidt: tight-knitted groups of friends

2008-03-14 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: OTOH, experience shows that enforced addition of new members doesn't work as one would expect. What case are you referring to? I don't think it ever happened up to now. Constant pressure from the

Re: Q: Marc Brockschmidt: tight-knitted groups of friends

2008-03-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Marc, On 14/03/08 at 12:40 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: OTOH, experience shows that enforced addition of new members doesn't work as one would expect. What case are you referring to?

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:20:47 +1000, Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 06:32:13PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: An alternative is to throw out the member who is youngest. No, that would again ensure stagnancy in the group, with the older members being permanently

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:06:07 +1000, Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:12:54AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Redoing the new blood thing once again is unlikely to have much of an effect, really. I think we need to find some of the root causes of the malaise

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:05:02 +1000, Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 08:25:40AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:37:46 +1000, Anthony Towns said: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 06:54:50PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: And, just to make things

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 23:46 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neither is the argument I'm making. The argument I'm making is that because it's likely there are better ways of doing things than the way we're doing things now (ie, though foo is the way

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 11:40 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I do not presume to be omniscient. But I believe lack of time, which is reflected in lack of contribution to the debate on a topic, and, even worse, lack of participation in the voting effort, is definitely a root cause,

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread Mike Bird
On Fri March 14 2008 19:55:37 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I suggest that the best way to have good people on the committee is to have some process by which one person or group of people get to decide that it's time to replace person X with person Y, and not simply wait around for person X to

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri March 14 2008 19:55:37 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I suggest that the best way to have good people on the committee is to have some process by which one person or group of people get to decide that it's time to replace person X with person Y, and not