[Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Bennie
Hello all, I may be beating a dead horse, but I cant seem to find any threads that talk about this. Back when I first got declude and was using it with my imail system I setup the following in Imail. 1) Made a user mailbox: test made all mail forward to: nul 2) Set up an Aliases: nobody

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] TCP/UDP ports

2004-02-26 Thread Mark Smith
Incorrect 1024-65535 are the random TCP ACK ports. Just do a netstat -an and you'll see TCP 0.0.0.0:{GT 5000) LISTENING Also, only a state based firewall will allow the TCP back channel ports by default. An access list in a router will need to have GT 1024 explicitly told to pass the back channel

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Sanford Whiteman
all mail that was not sent to a valid user name will be passed to the alias nobody. Which will resolve to test. As the mail arrives in test it is deleted. Do you think that it's helping your server's performance to spool mail that will never be delivered to a human? The 'nobody'

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread R. Scott Perry
I may be beating a dead horse, but I cant seem to find any threads that talk about this. Back when I first got declude and was using it with my imail system I setup the following in Imail. 1) Made a user mailbox: test made all mail forward to: nul 2) Set up an Aliases: nobody made it

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Joe Wolf
I've never tried it, but couldn't you just have the nobody ailias resolve to NUL? It's an interesting concept that would present at least one solution to the dictionary attacks. I might give that a try on one of my stable domains (no deleted users in years) just to see what it does to

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Darin Cox
Try setting it to go to username-NUL rather than just NUL. Note that you don't need the mailbox for this, just put in the nobody alias to directto username-NUL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Joe Wolf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:16 AM Subject:

[Declude.JunkMail] Failing HELOBOGUS

2004-02-26 Thread steve
Why would the following email fail the HELOBOGUS test?: Received: from mail.tmlp.net [69.64.96.3] by mail.tmlp.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AFC55F880106; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:19:01 -0500Received: from [69.64.96.6] by mail.tmlp.net (SMTPD32-8.00) id AF07226F0152; Tue, 24 Feb 2004

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] test if recipient's domain name in the sender address

2004-02-26 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
Let me re-state the point: If the recipient's domain name is in the left hand side of the sender's address (to the left of the @) then it's probably from a list server. You could also look for the word bounce in the sender address. I don't see how sending through an ISP SMTP server is relevant.

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Sanford Whiteman
When you're hit with a dictionary attack we all know they send to thousands of addresses at the domain. If the final delivery address is invalid the server creates an Unknown User (or whatever it's called) message that it tries to send back to the sender. If you have high queue

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Darin Cox
Ok, bad terminology, but that's what I thought. Thanks for the confirmation, Sandy. Darin. - Original Message - From: Sanford Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul Does

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Failing HELOBOGUS

2004-02-26 Thread steve
Sandy, 69.64.96.6 is my workstation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't host mail.tmlp.com only be interested in host mail.tmlp.net as far as the HELOBOGUS test is concerned? Received: from mail.tmlp.net [69.64.96.3] by mail.tmlp.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id AFC55F880106; Tue, 24 Feb

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] test if recipient's domain name in the sender address

2004-02-26 Thread Gerald V. Livingston II
Oops -- misread on my part. Looked at recipient and read sender sigh. Sorry. G On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:44:49 -0600 Paul Fuhrmeister said something about RE: [Declude.JunkMail] test if recipient's domain name in the sender address: Let me re-state the point: If the recipient's domain name

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Failing HELOBOGUS

2004-02-26 Thread Matt
The issue is this line: Received: from [69.64.96.6] by mail.tmlp.net There should be a host name before the IP address. The server at 69.64.96.6 has no host name configured. When you confiure a host name, make sure to create an A record in DNS that points to it by the same name. Matt

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Joe Wolf
OK, I'm convinced. Whoever posted it made me think it might be a method to try. I yield to those with superior knowledge. -Joe - Original Message - From: Matt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Failing HELOBOGUS

2004-02-26 Thread steve
Hey Matt, Maybe I'm missing something, but 69.64.96.6 is my workstation, which is just simply running the mail client Outlook Express. Sending thru mail.tmlp.net to mail.tmlp.com. So, my question, dumb as it may seem: Why would my workstation need an official host name? Thanks, Steve

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Failing HELOBOGUS

2004-02-26 Thread Matt
Let me correct something here. The issue is that you are scanning internal E-mail, though the previous advice is accurate. There are many issues that can happen with this. You might want to whitelist your internal IP space in your Global.cfg. Matt Matt wrote: The issue is this

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOP HIGH / Spam Tests

2004-02-26 Thread Nick Hayer
Matt - hop testing (I test the last 4 hops since my server can handle it currently and that helps with forwarding). I've only seen a few FP's Does this mean you have a HOPHIGH 4 setting in your global.cfg? Or (3) considering HOP 0 or none of this applies..? Thanks!

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HOP HIGH / Spam Tests

2004-02-26 Thread Matt
HOP 0 HOPHIGH 3 I believe the only real harm in this is the extra lookups, but your volume shouldn't present problems as it is very similar to my own and I have seen no issues. Most E-mail of course only has 1 or 2 hops. I did this because of a relay chain for forwarding at one particular

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS timeout and DNS configuration - does it get logged?

2004-02-26 Thread R. Scott Perry
In diagnosing why some messages are slipping through, I manually analyzed the headers using spamcop and noticed that spamcop reported a blacklist that wasn't getting scored by declude. I'm assuming the problem is a DNS timeout when declude is trying to perform the lookup test. Either that, or

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS timeout and DNS configuration - does it get logged?

2004-02-26 Thread Frederick Samarelli
What is the syntax to tell Declude to use a DNS server in the Global.cfg Fred - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS timeout and DNS configuration - does it get

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS timeout and DNS configuration - does it get logged?

2004-02-26 Thread R. Scott Perry
What is the syntax to tell Declude to use a DNS server in the Global.cfg DNS 192.0.2.25 (without the quotes). -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS timeout and DNS configuration - does it get logged?

2004-02-26 Thread Gerald V. Livingston II
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:35:01 -0500 DLAnalyzer Support said something about Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS timeout and DNS configuration - does it get logged?: DNS line in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file). Note that it is recommended (with or without Declude) that you only use 1 DNS server

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS timeout and DNS configuration - does it get logged?

2004-02-26 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
DNS line in the \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file). Note that it is recommended (with or without Declude) that you only use 1 DNS server in the IMail SMTP settings. What types of problems tend to crop up with multiple DNS servers listed in Imail? Darrell --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses

[Declude.JunkMail] DNS timeout and DNS configuration - does it get logged?

2004-02-26 Thread decjunkmail
Hi, In diagnosing why some messages are slipping through, I manually analyzed the headers using spamcop and noticed that spamcop reported a blacklist that wasn't getting scored by declude. I'm assuming the problem is a DNS timeout when declude is trying to perform the lookup test. I'm

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Matt
Someone recently experienced a situation where a spammer distributed a list of nonexistent addresses and totally hammered a domain with them. It seems that not all spammers care about the purity of their data and an accepted message may get that address on their list, even if you accepted

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Darin Cox
Only problem I see with that is valid business email where a user mistyped the email address of the recipient. Without getting the Unknown User response, they assume the recipient got the message. My business customers would hate a change like this as their customers continually make up their

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail nul

2004-02-26 Thread Joe Wolf
Sandy, I'm not going to claim to be an email server expert, but here's what I see... I could be wrong. When you're hit with a dictionary attack we all know they send to thousands of addresses at the domain. If the final delivery address is invalid the server creates an Unknown User (or whatever

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help on Filtering out this email

2004-02-26 Thread R. Scott Perry
From: Life Quotes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to filter out the word Life Quotes, I have tried this by HEADERS 8 CONTAINS Life Quotes I have this in my global.cfg FILTER_HEADER filter C:\imail\Declude\filter_HEADERS.txt x 0 0 That should work fine. Is

[Declude.JunkMail] Help on Filtering out this email

2004-02-26 Thread Kris McElroy
Received: from SMTP32-FWD by mail.compworldnet.com (SMTP32) id A07B4; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:47:55 -0600 Received: from Primary_Imail [65.66.8.5] by mail.compworldnet.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.15) id A52ACD0272; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:47:54 -0600 Received: from vqkjazda.crazystart.com

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] test if recipient's domain name in the sender address

2004-02-26 Thread Gerald V. Livingston II
Not a good test. With port 25 blocking becoming more common to force ISP subscribers to route all email out through the ISP SMTP server the sender address is likely to show the ISP email address while the From: line will show whatever email address they normally use depending on the SMTP Auth

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Failing HELOBOGUS

2004-02-26 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Why would the following email fail the HELOBOGUS test?: Received: from [69.64.96.6] by mail.tmlp.net (SMTPD32-8.00) id AF07226F0152; Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:15:51 -0500 blank is not a valid hostname. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf

[Declude.JunkMail] test if recipient's domain name in the sender address

2004-02-26 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
Is there a test that tells me if the recipient's domain name is in the sender address? It seems this would be a good tip-off that it's bulk mail, AND IF from a DUL OR listed in SpamCop, MailPolice, etc. it's THEN it's probably spam. X-RBL-Warning: AHBL: 1067376393 bruns - Spam Source -

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] file extensions banned by domain

2004-02-26 Thread Gene Head
Scott, I came up with this filter to trigger on emails with attachments with a .zip extension. I created a file called ziptest and added it into the global.cfg file as a filter named zipper. Ziptest.txt # Zip test HEADERS 0 CONTAINSContent-Type: application/x-zip BODY