Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Prevent Mail to Ex-Employees

2004-10-21 Thread Bud Durland
Goran Jovanovic wrote:
Just to make sure I understand, you would not add any users to the iMail
domain you would just add aliases? Right?
 

Correct.
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[Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCHK

2004-10-21 Thread Mark E. Smith
Anyone know how to report the SPAMCHK test weight in the SMTP header?



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] *very* much off topic

2004-10-21 Thread Nick Hayer
For those that follow baseball...

the RedSox gave the Yankees an 'ATOMIC' WEDGIE'   :)

-Nick


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCHK

2004-10-21 Thread Markus Gufler

 Anyone know how to report the SPAMCHK test weight in the SMTP header?

You mean mail header ?

just use the WARN action. This should add a line like

X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCHK: Message failed SPAMCHK: x.

to the mail header where x is the SpamChk-weight.

Markus


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] *very* much off topic

2004-10-21 Thread Rick Davidson
I live in Cleveland so I am no stranger to baseball heart breaks, but one 
thing Indians and Red Sox fans agree on is that we hate the Yankees!

I heard music to my ears on NPR this morning...
The Yankees are the only team in history to lose a 7 game series after 
winning the first three games LOL!


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For those that follow baseball...
the RedSox gave the Yankees an 'ATOMIC' WEDGIE'   :)
-Nick
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Copying 200,000 plus files

2004-10-21 Thread Darin Cox
Actually the question was whether zipping would help them...but copying the
data into RAM, zipping it, and copying it back to the USB drive before
copying to an internal drive kind of defeats the purpose...and would take
more time that just copying.

That aside, my experience over the past 20 years with image compression is
significantly different.  That's why I went into my mini discourse...wanting
to point out that a generalization didn't really work when image formats
vary significantly in how they respond to zip compression.

I see significantly higher compression than you indicate on uncompressed
formats.   Generally around 1/3 of the original size, so comparable to the
Word documents you mentioned.  Since compression rates can vary so widely
with different formats, I think a discussion of the differences was
warranted...especially since the discussion was around a particular format,
TIFF, which is most often uncompressed, or perhaps run length compressed
with palette color images.

Darin.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:16 PM
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I think the question was about zipping graphic files, which as a general
rule, don't get much smaller after they're zipped (as compared to text
files, etc.).  I wasn't taking about the compression contained in a
particular graphic format.  I get about 15%-25% reduction zipping the
uncompressed BMP file vs about 70% from a Word doc (using the stock
Winzip settings).  I should have been clearer in my first response.

Mike

At 06:43 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
Huh?  The logic flaw in trying to zip first, then copy aside (since the
file
would have to first be copied into RAM, then zipped, then stored back onto
the USB drive...better just to copy)... uncompressed TIFFs (TIFFs have had
an option for LZW compression since the mid 90s) compress pretty well as
they contain raw raster data, as do BMPs and many other uncompressed
formats.

If you're referring to JPEGs and GIFs, that's because they are already
compressed.  JPEGs have built-in lossy compression, but high quality JPEGs
(low compression) can still see decent compression, and GIFs are already
LZW
compressed, which means more LZW compression generally doesn't yield much.

So, it depends on the type of image, but TIFFs are generally uncompressed
these days due to the LZW copyright fiasco, or may have run-length encoding
which still compresses reasonably well with LZW.

Darin.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:11 PM
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Graphic files as a general rule don't compress well.

Mike

At 03:26 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote:
 Jeff Pereira wrote:
 What's killing me is not so much the amount of data, but the fact that
 there are so many small files.  I'm gonna have to try XCOPY on the
 next folder and see how that works.
 
 I can't remember but do TIFF files compress well?  Might be worth it to
 ZIP them and copy that over.
 
 Jim

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[Declude.JunkMail] Outbound mail

2004-10-21 Thread Chuck Schick
For some reason declude is holding outbound mail even though we do not have
it set in the Global.cfg file to hold.  We are running the Declude Pro
version 1.79.  Any explaination of why this is happening?  We do not want to
even scan outbound mail - what is the best way to turn that off.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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[Declude.JunkMail] .EML Syntax Question

2004-10-21 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi,

In a .EML file (eg spamattach.eml) I have 



 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe


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[Declude.JunkMail] .EML Syntax Question

2004-10-21 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi,

Sorry about the previous post hit the wrong button :(

In a .EML file (eg spamattach.eml) I have 

From: Anti-SPAM Service [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: %ALLRECIPS%

Which sends the mail to the original recipients. This is fine

Can I also BCC another account if I am looking to monitor something for
a while? Would the syntax be:

BCC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanx

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe


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[Declude.JunkMail] IMail 8 upgrade

2004-10-21 Thread Glenn \\ WCNet
I've been putting it off, but need to go ahead with the deed.  Can anyone
provide some quick-and-easy tip/instructions on making sure it goes
smoothly?  I know IMail's integrated spam detection needs to be disables,
and I recall mention in the past that it can be a little tricky to do that.

TIA

G.Z.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Prevent Mail to Ex-Employees

2004-10-21 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Bud,

If I do the aliases thing what happens if a mail message is addressed to
someone who has an alias and someone who does not? Will it go through
for the one that does?


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bud Durland
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:39 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Prevent Mail to Ex-Employees
 
 Goran Jovanovic wrote:
 
 Just to make sure I understand, you would not add any users to the
iMail
 domain you would just add aliases? Right?
 
 
 
 Correct.
 
 
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Prevent Mail to Ex-Employees

2004-10-21 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 You might be able adapt one of Sandy's utility scripts to import the
 GW  LDAP  directory  directly and automatically to the iMail aliases
 list.

Yes,  this  certainly  will  be  possible  if  I  can  get the GW LDAP
context/classes/attribs  from  Goran  (assuming GW serves addys up via
LDAP).

I  will  be  happy  to  adapt my ldap2aliases script if I can get some
insight (i.e. via remote access) to a GW LDAP daemon.

--Sandy



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Broadleaf Systems, a division of
Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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SpamAssassin plugs into Declude!
  http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/

Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes into IMail Aliases!
  
http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Outbound mail

2004-10-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

For some reason declude is holding outbound mail even though we do not have
it set in the Global.cfg file to hold.  We are running the Declude Pro
version 1.79.  Any explaination of why this is happening?  We do not want to
even scan outbound mail - what is the best way to turn that off.
Do you have a copyall account?  That could be causing the problem.  If, 
for example, you copy all E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and have 
per-user/per-domain settings for that account to hold the E-mail, E-mail 
will get held regardless of who it is addressed to.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] .EML Syntax Question

2004-10-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

In a .EML file (eg spamattach.eml) I have
From: Anti-SPAM Service [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: %ALLRECIPS%
Which sends the mail to the original recipients. This is fine
Can I also BCC another account if I am looking to monitor something for
a while? Would the syntax be:
BCC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unfortunately, that won't work, due to a quirk in IMail1.exe.  You can use 
To: %ALLRECIPS%,[EMAIL PROTECTED], but that would of course not be a 
Bcc: (but at least [EMAIL PROTECTED] would get the E-mail).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Prevent Mail to Ex-Employees

2004-10-21 Thread Bud Durland
Sanford Whiteman wrote:
_IMail_ doesn't refuse anything, it just sends back 5xxs for unknowns.
This  is  exactly  like the Outlook/OE/Bat client question surfaced on
the IMail list, except that full-fledged MTAs submit the messages they
can  and  kick back DSNs for the ones they can't.
Think  about  it:  this  is  why  dictionary attacks work; if a single
envelope  failure always triggered failure of the entire session, we'd
be  a  lot  safer, since spammers could _only_ use a stack of verified
addresses.
 

That's the thing about this world -- there's always something cleverer 
than yourself
Merlin, Excalibur

Thanks for the correction, Sandy.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] understanding JM scores

2004-10-21 Thread Imail Admin
Thanks for your help, Scott.

Ben

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 Thanks, Scott.  Ok, one more: here is the scoring system I use:

   CMDSPACE=IGNORE IPNOTINMX=IGNORE NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE SPFFAIL=IGNORE
   LOCALCMDSPACE=IGNORE WEIGHT5=SUBJECT WEIGHT5r=MAILBOX
 CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE

 CMDSPACE cmdspace x x 8 0
 IPNOTINMX ipnotinmx x x 0 -3
 NOLEGITCONTENT nolegitcontent x x 0 -5
 SPFFAIL  spf  failx   3   0
 LOCALCMDSPACE   filter  D:\IMail\Declude\cmdspace.txt   x   0
0

 According to the log entry, the message should get 8 for failing
CMDSPACE, 0
 for failing IPNOTINMX, 0 for failing NOLEGITCONTENT, 3 for failing
SPFFAIL,
 and 0 for failing LOCALCMDSPACE.  It gets 0 points for passing all of the
 remaining tests.  So that totals to 11, not 5.  So how am I misreading
this?

 That's a difference of -6.  So somewhere, Declude JunkMail is subtracting
6
 points.  Could your filter file be doing that?

 Also, how can I find out why it failed the SPFFAIL test?  Since this was
for
 an internal message, I expected to pass the SPF tests (we have an SPF
 record).

 Unfortunately, it is not possible to find out why the E-mail failed the
SPF
 test -- but if you enter the appropriate information into
 http://www.dnsstuff.com/pages/spf.htm you can find out why it failed.

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[Declude.JunkMail] SPF question

2004-10-21 Thread Imail Admin
Hi,

I have a question about setting up the SPF string.

If I use this string:

v=spf1 a mx a:bcw5, a:bcw6 -all

as a text record in our domain (bcwebhost.net), then the SPF test checks the
sending IP and tries to match it against either bcw5.bcwebhost.net or
bcw6.bcwebhost.net.  The -all option says that if the sending IP doesn't
match one of those two, the test fails.  Now when I send out mail, it goes
out through an IP (66.224.41.4 -- our firewall) that doesn't belong to that
domain.  So how do I get the SPF test to pass for email coming from this IP
address?

Thanks,

Ben
BC Web

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[Declude.JunkMail] How to tell which version I have

2004-10-21 Thread Jeff Pereira



How can I tell which version of Declude Junkmail I 
am using ??


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How to tell which version I have

2004-10-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

How can I tell which version of Declude Junkmail I am using ??
You can type \IMail\Declude -diag from a command prompt.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF question

2004-10-21 Thread R. Scott Perry

I have a question about setting up the SPF string.
If I use this string:
v=spf1 a mx a:bcw5, a:bcw6 -all
as a text record in our domain (bcwebhost.net), then the SPF test checks the
sending IP and tries to match it against either bcw5.bcwebhost.net or
bcw6.bcwebhost.net.  The -all option says that if the sending IP doesn't
match one of those two, the test fails.  Now when I send out mail, it goes
out through an IP (66.224.41.4 -- our firewall) that doesn't belong to that
domain.  So how do I get the SPF test to pass for email coming from this IP
address?
You just need to add ip4:66.224.41.4 to the SPF record, and you should be 
all set.

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[Declude.JunkMail] Imail Rule?

2004-10-21 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi,

Help - I can't 
figure this out.

Imail 8.1 installed 
- I never turned on any of their SPAM features - as far as I 
know.

The Anti-Spam folder 
under localhost is EMTPY

The Inbound Rules 
tab for the user and the domain is empty (in fact, they should ALL be emtpy). I 
searched for Rules.ima files and I only found the old "forwarding" rules for 
some users - but nothing that's looking in the header for 
X-RBL-Warning...?

WHERE is Imail 
getting those RULES from that it uses to block mail that I never realized was 
being blocked!

10:21 00:00 
SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [63.107.174.14] connect 204.9.23.222 port 4873410:21 
00:00 SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [204.9.23.222] HELO somedomain.com10:21 00:00 
SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [204.9.23.222] MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]10:21 
00:00 SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [204.9.23.222] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10:21 00:00 
SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [204.9.23.222] D:\IMAIL\spool\D34570f9300c83def.SMD 
270810:21 00:00 SMTP-(34570f9300c83def) processing 
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q34570f9300c83def.SMD10:21 00:00 
SMTP-(34570f9300c83def) Inbound X-IMail-Rule: H~X-RBL-Warning\: Suspected SPAM\. 
"Blocked:!BOUNCE! Data- X-RBL-WARNING: SUSPECTED SPAM.10:21 
00:00 SMTP-(34570f9300c83def) Creating message from Postmaster10:21 00:00 
SMTP-(34570f9300c83def) finished D:\IMAIL\spool\Q34570f9300c83def.SMD 
status=2Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 



Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail Rule?

2004-10-21 Thread Bill Landry
Title: Message



Andy, there is also an "Antispam" folder under each 
e-maildomain defined on the system. You will need to check each of 
those, as well, which can be a real PITA if youhost hundreds or thousands 
of domains.

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Andy Schmidt 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:17 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 
  Rule?
  
  Hi,
  
  Help - I can't 
  figure this out.
  
  Imail 8.1 
  installed - I never turned on any of their SPAM features - as far as I 
  know.
  
  The Anti-Spam 
  folder under localhost is EMTPY
  
  The Inbound Rules 
  tab for the user and the domain is empty (in fact, they should ALL be emtpy). 
  I searched for Rules.ima files and I only found the old "forwarding" rules for 
  some users - but nothing that's looking in the header for 
  X-RBL-Warning...?
  
  WHERE is Imail 
  getting those RULES from that it uses to block mail that I never realized was 
  being blocked!
  
  10:21 00:00 
  SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [63.107.174.14] connect 204.9.23.222 port 
  4873410:21 00:00 SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [204.9.23.222] HELO 
  somedomain.com10:21 00:00 SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [204.9.23.222] MAIL 
  FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]10:21 
  00:00 SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [204.9.23.222] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  10:21 00:00 
  SMTPD(34570f9300c83def) [204.9.23.222] D:\IMAIL\spool\D34570f9300c83def.SMD 
  270810:21 00:00 SMTP-(34570f9300c83def) processing 
  D:\IMAIL\spool\Q34570f9300c83def.SMD10:21 
  00:00 SMTP-(34570f9300c83def) Inbound X-IMail-Rule: H~X-RBL-Warning\: 
  Suspected SPAM\. "Blocked:!BOUNCE! Data- X-RBL-WARNING: SUSPECTED 
  SPAM.10:21 00:00 SMTP-(34570f9300c83def) Creating message 
  from Postmaster10:21 00:00 SMTP-(34570f9300c83def) finished 
  D:\IMAIL\spool\Q34570f9300c83def.SMD status=2Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent 
  Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 
  


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] .EML Syntax Question

2004-10-21 Thread Goran Jovanovic
 Unfortunately, that won't work, due to a quirk in IMail1.exe.  

Darn - Thanx


 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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