RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New virus with unusual deployment

2004-11-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Doesn't the newer versions of Declude Virus catch the IFRAME vulnerability? Isn't this a post for the virus list? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave

RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750

2004-11-10 Thread Mark E. Smith
We only use Imail as a Gateway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sbsi lists Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:01 PM To: Markus Gufler Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on Dell Poweredge 1750 Hi Markus, Interested in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SA help -

2004-11-10 Thread Nick Hayer
On 9 Nov 2004 at 22:54, Bill Landry wrote: Nick, I cannot think of any RHSBLs that would be candidates for urirhssub, other than the SURBLs that currently use bitmasked responses. I did not have any in mind but I was looking over the setups and this scenerio came to mind.. Thanks for you

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New virus with unusual deployment

2004-11-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
For what it's worth, I don't have the Declude Virus product. The Declude Virus product may catch the IFRAME technique in HTML, but you won't see this technique in HTML, which is why Dave probably thought it was a useful heads-up in the antispam forum. I can add to Dave's description: Trend Micro

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Using Real E-Mail Address on Web Site

2004-11-10 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, We have a new web site and we would like to put links on the contact page which allow people to click on the links and send us an e-mail but we don't want those addresses to be scanned and added to the latest spammers mailing list. Are there any common practices for obfuscating the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Using Real E-Mail Address on Web Site

2004-11-10 Thread Rick Davidson
Pull them from a database dynamicly so the page actually has to be visited to display the addys Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:26 AM

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Using Real E-Mail Address on Web Site

2004-11-10 Thread Nick
On 10 Nov 2004 at 11:26, Dan Geiser wrote: Dan, This works I do believe however there maybe better solutions - script language=Javascript !-- emailname = EmailRecipient emailserver = server.example.com document.write(font face='Verdana' size=2); document.write(a href='mailto:; + emailname

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Using Real E-Mail Address on Web Site

2004-11-10 Thread Rick Davidson
hey thats pretty cool! :-) Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - script language=Javascript !-- emailname = EmailRecipient emailserver = server.example.com document.write(font face='Verdana' size=2); document.write(a href='mailto:; + emailname + @ + emailserver +

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Using Real E-Mail Address on Web Site

2004-11-10 Thread Mark E. Smith
Most spiders actually visit the page anyway so this doesn't help. The Javascript method usually works best. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Davidson Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Using Real E-Mail Address on Web Site

2004-11-10 Thread William Stillwell
Use javascript that pulls a seperate page that pulls the emailaddress w/Redirect. Spiders will pull an email address out of the source, but normally don't execute javascript, if they did, simply add a Javascript Question. or, Just have a webforum, and have that email them to confirm the email

[Declude.JunkMail] Pb with Imail1.exe

2004-11-10 Thread Serge
Hi Scott, Below are 2 headers sent by Imail1.exe v8.12 1- Why did only one fail the HELOBOGUS test and not the other ? they both do not have HELO/EHLO in the heading (or i am missing something). 2- When will declude fix the problem of using the first IP in the BODY as the remote IP ? 3- How to

[Declude.JunkMail] habeas

2004-11-10 Thread Jeff Kratka
Has anyone had better luck with habeas lately. I turned things off since the spammers jumped on. Jeff Kratka TymeWyse Internet P.O.Box 84 - 110 Ecklund St., Canyonville, OR 97417 tel/fax: (541) 839-6027 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Pb with Imail1.exe

2004-11-10 Thread R. Scott Perry
Below are 2 headers sent by Imail1.exe v8.12 1- Why did only one fail the HELOBOGUS test and not the other ? they both do not have HELO/EHLO in the heading (or i am missing something). You won't see HELO or EHLO in the headers (that's the name of the SMTP command). In this case, you don't even

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] habeas

2004-11-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I give it a small negative weight, and then a big positive weight with the HIL IP4R test. I see very little of bad-guy spammers using the Habeas warrant. I also see very little in the way of useful mailers taking advantage of the warrant. So from my traffic, Habeas is a failure. Andrew 8)

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] habeas

2004-11-10 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Jeff Kratka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone had better luck with habeas lately. I turned things off since the spammers jumped on. Don't use the Declude JunkMail habeas whitelist feature: WHITELIST HABEAS nor HABEAS habeas x x -3 0 the watermark

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Pb with Imail1.exe

2004-11-10 Thread Serge
You won't see HELO or EHLO in the headers (that's the name of the SMTP command). In this case, you don't even see the hostname from the HELO/EHLO in the headers, since there are no Received: headers. I'm guessing that the server failure response from the DNS server was an abnormal response,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] habeas

2004-11-10 Thread Scott Fisher
Habeas by itself was useless. A trivial amount of spammers using it. I turned Habeas-HIL off... Too few responses to be useful. Twice in the last year they were false positiving on AOL, so when I was using it, their weight kept dropping. I won't use Habeas-HUL because I refuse to complete their

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Pb with Imail1.exe

2004-11-10 Thread R. Scott Perry
In this particular case, what does declude ask the DNS for ? Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? The helobogus is run on mydomain.net from the line above ? or on what ? In this case, it is actually blank, since this is an oddball message -- one without a Received: header (it seems that a recent

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New virus with unusual deployment

2004-11-10 Thread Dave Doherty
Thanks, Andrew- That is exactly why I gave this wider dissemination than I normally would do. The email is completely innocuous, nothing to detect, except for the link, which I believe will change as to IP address and port as this progresses. -d - Original Message - From: Colbeck,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] habeas

2004-11-10 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Habeas by itself was useless. A trivial amount of spammers using it. I turned Habeas-HIL off... Too few responses to be useful. Twice in the last year they were false positiving on AOL, so when I was using it, their weight

[Declude.JunkMail] ALLRECIPS syntax

2004-11-10 Thread Matt Goodhue
Hello All, We have our Declude/Imail server setup as a gateway to our exchange server. We had a user that used to get a ton of spam. We gave him a new email address, but a bunch of junk is still coming to his old email address that doesnt exist anymore. It then gets stuck in our spool

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ALLRECIPS syntax

2004-11-10 Thread Scott Fisher
ALLRECIPS with IS test: It needs to be "[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where the first "[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the name entered by the user, and the second one is the one that IMail uses) ALLRECIPS480IS[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ALLRECIPS syntax

2004-11-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message Or if this guy's email address is an indicator of spam ALLRECIPS 480 CONTAINS [EMAIL PROTECTED] so if the president of the company and [EMAIL PROTECTED] are in the To:, CC: or BCC:, the message will still get held or deleted for everyone. That might be handy for you, but

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New virus with unusual deployment

2004-11-10 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Thanks for the clarification. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ALLRECIPS syntax

2004-11-10 Thread Matt Goodhue
I guess I am confused. My Imail is setup as a mail gateway, so this user is not local. So what would be the imail user then? Thanks. matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL