Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
My mail server is running on Windows XP Pro. - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem He means the server. What server OS are you running? Windows 2000 or Windows 2003. So far all reporting the problem are running Windows 2000 server. Darin. - Original Message - From: Linda Pagillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem I'm running XP Pro - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Ugh... move it to a server OS. Windows 2000 or 2003. While I don't believe Windows 2003 to be as stable as Windows 2000, it will be easier for you to manage and secure, so I'd go with that. Darin. - Original Message - From: Linda Pagillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem My mail server is running on Windows XP Pro. - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem He means the server. What server OS are you running? Windows 2000 or Windows 2003. So far all reporting the problem are running Windows 2000 server. Darin. - Original Message - From: Linda Pagillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem I'm running XP Pro - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Darin, 2 cents here. I have had very, very few issues that may have been related to Windows 2003, and some of my servers get pounded on. It is the most stable platform that I have used to date, and it is definitely more secure by default than 2k. YMMV of course. Matt Darin Cox wrote: Ugh... move it to a server OS. Windows 2000 or 2003. While I don't believe Windows 2003 to be as stable as Windows 2000, it will be easier for you to manage and secure, so I'd go with that. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Linda Pagillo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem My mail server is running on Windows XP Pro. - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem He means the server. What server OS are you running? Windows 2000 or Windows 2003. So far all reporting the problem are running Windows 2000 server. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Linda Pagillo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem I'm running XP Pro - Original Message - From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August "KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder" I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Hi Matt, All of my servers are 2003, but I have had seen some small stability issues with 2003 where I didn't with fully patched 2000. Also, I'm see 10-20% higher average CPU on 2003 with all other software the same. I'm also seeing issues with IMail and Declude on 2003 that I did not see at all on 2000. I agree that it's more secure by default (though I had locked 2000 down just as tightly), and that 2003 should be the choice over 2000, but there's no question in my mind that it is more bloated and not as stable. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matt To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Darin,2 cents here. I have had very, very few issues that may have been related to Windows 2003, and some of my servers get pounded on. It is the most stable platform that I have used to date, and it is definitely more secure by default than 2k. YMMV of course.MattDarin Cox wrote: Ugh... move it to a server OS. Windows 2000 or 2003. While I don't believe Windows 2003 to be as stable as Windows 2000, it will be easier for you to manage and secure, so I'd go with that. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Linda Pagillo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem My mail server is running on Windows XP Pro. - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem He means the server. What server OS are you running? Windows 2000 or Windows 2003. So far all reporting the problem are running Windows 2000 server. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Linda Pagillo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem I'm running XP Pro - Original Message - From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August "KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder" I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and t
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
All of my servers are 2003, but I have had seen some small stability issues with 2003 where I didn't with fully patched 2000. Also, I'm see 10-20% higher average CPU on 2003 with all other software the same. I agree that I have also seen a CPU jump with 2003 - but I suspect its partly attributed to things like DEP etc. I'm also seeing issues with IMail and Declude on 2003 that I did not see at all on 2000. This I have not ran into yet myself. I agree that it's more secure by default (though I had locked 2000 down just as tightly), and that 2003 should be the choice over 2000, but there's no question in my mind that it is more bloated and not as stable. While 2003 is a great jump out of the box - there is something to be said about a previous platform (i.e. 2000 sp4) knowing that it is tried and true. I would think you would get a bit more stabability out of it than 2003 out of the gate simply because it has been around longer. However, the big factor that pushes me is that I know in the long run 2003 is more secure even if I have to adjust to the growing pains of 2003. However, I do have to say I have not had any issues with 2003 (standalone). We have had a few 2003 issues with in an AD environment. Darrell --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
I have no doubts about YMMV, but for the benefit of the discussion, I could add a little. When I moved IMail/Declude from 2000 to 2003 temporarily as part of disaster recovery, I was able to benchmark the difference in CPU on an exactly identical system except for the RAID card (went from an LSI 320-2 maxed with memory on 2000 to a zero channel Adaptec 2010s on the 2003 box). I was surprised to see around a 10% improvement on the 2003 box. While this could have been the RAID card, one would have generally expected it to go the other way if that was the case. I have of course tweaked 2003 by shutting off unnecessary services and even turning off DEP. I believe that DEP can make a difference in performance. I can't comment on comparable utilization of apps outside of mail servers since everything else tends to only scratch the surface of my CPU's on the other boxes. Clearly things are different enough that one might trigger certain behaviors one one instead of the other. Matt Darin Cox wrote: Hi Matt, All of my servers are 2003, but I have had seen some small stability issues with 2003 where I didn't with fully patched 2000. Also, I'm see 10-20% higher average CPU on 2003 with all other software the same. I'm also seeing issues with IMail and Declude on 2003 that I did not see at all on 2000. I agree that it's more secure by default (though I had locked 2000 down just as tightly), and that 2003 should be the choice over 2000, but there's no question in my mind that it is more bloated and not as stable. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matt To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Darin, 2 cents here. I have had very, very few issues that may have been related to Windows 2003, and some of my servers get pounded on. It is the most stable platform that I have used to date, and it is definitely more secure by default than 2k. YMMV of course. Matt Darin Cox wrote: Ugh... move it to a server OS. Windows 2000 or 2003. While I don't believe Windows 2003 to be as stable as Windows 2000, it will be easier for you to manage and secure, so I'd go with that. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Linda Pagillo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem My mail server is running on Windows XP Pro. - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem He means the server. What server OS are you running? Windows 2000 or Windows 2003. So far all reporting the problem are running Windows 2000 server. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Linda Pagillo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem I'm running XP Pro - Original Message - From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August "KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder" I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any mor
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Interesting. In my case, the hardware was identical. However, I have not done much in terms of tweaking 2003, and still have DEP on. The previous 2000 was pretty well optimized for performance. So I probably shouldn't compare until I optimize 2003. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matt To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem I have no doubts about YMMV, but for the benefit of the discussion, I could add a little. When I moved IMail/Declude from 2000 to 2003 temporarily as part of disaster recovery, I was able to benchmark the difference in CPU on an exactly identical system except for the RAID card (went from an LSI 320-2 maxed with memory on 2000 to a zero channel Adaptec 2010s on the 2003 box). I was surprised to see around a 10% improvement on the 2003 box. While this could have been the RAID card, one would have generally expected it to go the other way if that was the case.I have of course tweaked 2003 by shutting off unnecessary services and even turning off DEP. I believe that DEP can make a difference in performance. I can't comment on comparable utilization of apps outside of mail servers since everything else tends to only scratch the surface of my CPU's on the other boxes. Clearly things are different enough that one might trigger certain behaviors one one instead of the other.MattDarin Cox wrote: Hi Matt, All of my servers are 2003, but I have had seen some small stability issues with 2003 where I didn't with fully patched 2000. Also, I'm see 10-20% higher average CPU on 2003 with all other software the same. I'm also seeing issues with IMail and Declude on 2003 that I did not see at all on 2000. I agree that it's more secure by default (though I had locked 2000 down just as tightly), and that 2003 should be the choice over 2000, but there's no question in my mind that it is more bloated and not as stable. Darin. - Original Message - From: Matt To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Darin,2 cents here. I have had very, very few issues that may have been related to Windows 2003, and some of my servers get pounded on. It is the most stable platform that I have used to date, and it is definitely more secure by default than 2k. YMMV of course.MattDarin Cox wrote: Ugh... move it to a server OS. Windows 2000 or 2003. While I don't believe Windows 2003 to be as stable as Windows 2000, it will be easier for you to manage and secure, so I'd go with that. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Linda Pagillo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem My mail server is running on Windows XP Pro. - Original Message - From: "Darin Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem He means the server. What server OS are you running? Windows 2000 or Windows 2003. So far all reporting the problem are running Windows 2000 server. Darin. - Original Message - From: "Linda Pagillo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem I'm running XP Pro - Original Message - From: "Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August "KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder" I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows u
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Main things I'm seeing with IMail/Declude on 2003 are 1. Messages that get corrupted by putting the headers in the body during processing by Declude (1.82), and then a new set gets put in halfway through the process. The message ends up with half of the tests displayed in the body and the other half in the headers. Total message weight ends up only according to what is in the header. This means messages don't get held that should have, or other messages don't go through from negative weighting like they should. 2. Declude IPBypass is not working on 2003 for some reason. I didn't have time to investigate fully, so I implemented a workaround. Note that this is the same hardware, same software installations and configs, and same network environment. The only thing different is a reload of OS and reinstall of all software and porting of configs. Totally agree with 2003 security, though I had out 2000 servers well secured. And agree that 2000 being around longer means more stable. I was implying that. I think the thing I enjoyed most was not spending hours installing patches with 2003. Saved probably 4 hours per machine in the conversion. Darin. - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem All of my servers are 2003, but I have had seen some small stability issues with 2003 where I didn't with fully patched 2000. Also, I'm see 10-20% higher average CPU on 2003 with all other software the same. I agree that I have also seen a CPU jump with 2003 - but I suspect its partly attributed to things like DEP etc. I'm also seeing issues with IMail and Declude on 2003 that I did not see at all on 2000. This I have not ran into yet myself. I agree that it's more secure by default (though I had locked 2000 down just as tightly), and that 2003 should be the choice over 2000, but there's no question in my mind that it is more bloated and not as stable. While 2003 is a great jump out of the box - there is something to be said about a previous platform (i.e. 2000 sp4) knowing that it is tried and true. I would think you would get a bit more stabability out of it than 2003 out of the gate simply because it has been around longer. However, the big factor that pushes me is that I know in the long run 2003 is more secure even if I have to adjust to the growing pains of 2003. However, I do have to say I have not had any issues with 2003 (standalone). We have had a few 2003 issues with in an AD environment. Darrell --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Wait till you see what it does to not allowing attachments over 500k! We had to go back to 8.22 due to this problem and Ipswitch is aware that it is a problem. Rick Hogue Intent.Net 1-800-866-2983 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Pagillo Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:08 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 9/14/2006 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
Wow! That would be a really, really stupid bug. Fortunately, I don't use TS. The potential for this kind of problem is one reason that I do not do auto-updates. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. 201-847-0933 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
I'm running XP Pro - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem
He means the server. What server OS are you running? Windows 2000 or Windows 2003. So far all reporting the problem are running Windows 2000 server. Darin. - Original Message - From: Linda Pagillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem I'm running XP Pro - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem By any chance are you running this on Windows 2000? If so do you possibly have terminal services installed in application mode? Highly doubtful - but I figured I would ask. For those that may have a TS server I noticed a string of forum posts that indicates one of the MS Patches from August KB917422 MS06-051 no longer allows you to read or write INI files from anywhere other than the Windows folder I only bring this up because I know Imail uses an ini file for web messenging and its possible some may have TS in app mode - you never know. Darrell --- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Linda Pagillo writes: Thanks Darin. I did install the KB917953 patch from June. I also installed 4 more Windows updates yesterday and that's about when the problem started. I removed those patches today and did a reboot of my server. I'm still experiencing the same issue with the webmail. Any more suggestions? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Check postings on the IMail newsgroup today. It has been reported to be an issue with KB917953 from June. Most likely something in this weeks patches in combination with KB917953 triggered this. Darin. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] More info on Imail Webmail Problem Guys, i found this string in the Imail Forums. This is my exact problem, but the solution sounds crazy. What do you guys think? http://www.ipswitch.com/forums/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=10MessageID=20904 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
