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Bill,The value is in scoring the last hop hits higher than
prior hop hits. In this case, a hit on XBL for the last appropriate hop
(not IPBYPASSED) would result in 8 points (6 + 2), while a hit on a prior ho
Matt,
But if you rename the tests to DYN
than how you are configuring non-DUL tests twice?
Darrell
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Markus Gufler wrote:
But there are other tests like
FIVETEN-SRC that has had a wrong result in the same range for 9100
messages. The question is if FIVETEN-SRC allows a %IP4R% lookup.
They are all in fact IP4R lookups (if that is what the test is set
for). If you set Declude to
Darrell LaRock wrote:
Matt,
But if you
rename the tests to DYN
than how you are configuring non-DUL tests twice?
For DUL-type tests, I am only configuring them once, i.e.
DNSRBL-DYN dnsbl %IP4R%.dun.dnsrbl.net
127.0.0.3 0 0
NJABL-DYN-A dnsbl
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AS Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DUL skipping was ISBLANK is blank
AS This wasn't a bug or a larger issue of Declude trust based upon the 'from
AS Address.' There was no choice but to skip DUL/DYNA/DUHL tests (which were
AS the only ones skipped) when the 'from address' was spoofed as a local
Message-
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In absentia...
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17162.html
This made a lot of sense before, and it was the only way to disable DUL
tests for local users prior to IMail 8 and JunkMail ~1.76. Declude
won't disable the tests for gatewayed domains, only where an address
matches
Title: Message
Thanks
- ouch.
I'd
say that's a bug in design.
Since
AUTH is supported in Imail 8 and since others may not allow local users to send
through their Imail server (my outbound is going through IIS SMTP with SMTP
AUTH), there should be AT LEAST a config option to turn this
lf Of Matt
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In absentia...
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17162.html
This made a lot of sense before, and it was the only way
This wasn't a bug or a larger issue of Declude trust based upon the
'from Address.' There was no choice but to skip DUL/DYNA/DUHL tests
(which were the only ones skipped) when the 'from address' was spoofed
as a local address. Imail 8 and WHITELIST AUTH help, but they don't
solve this issue,
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This wasn't a bug or a larger issue of Declude trust based upon the
'from Address.' There was no choice
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This wasn't a bug or a larger issue of Declude trust based upon the 'from
Address
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This wasn't a bug or a larger issue of Declude trust
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This wasn't a bug or a larger issue of Declude trust based
Scott,
I seem to have broken things worse :) Is there any reason why the
following wouldn't work?
XBL(LAST) dnsbl %REMOTEIP%.sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
127.0.0.4 6 0
I tested the DUL lists using this format and it seemed to be working.
Here's the headers from a single hop test that tripped on
I seem to have broken things worse :) Is there any reason why the
following wouldn't work?
XBL(LAST)dnsbl%REMOTEIP%.sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.4
60
I tested the DUL lists using this format and it seemed to be
working. Here's the headers from a single hop test
DOH!
And unfortunately I just finished backing out of the changes :) Thanks
for the clarification/correction.
Matt
R. Scott Perry wrote:
I seem to have broken things worse :) Is there any reason why the
following wouldn't work?
XBL(LAST)dnsbl%REMOTEIP%.sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
Friday, May 14, 2004, 11:36:22 AM, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seem to have broken things worse :) Is there any reason why the
following wouldn't work?
XBL(LAST)dnsbl%REMOTEIP%.sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.4
60
I tested the DUL lists using this
Don,
Since I started this thread, I'll try to answer what's at issue here.
Declude has functionality to only scan the last hop on any dnsbl, ip4r
and rhsbl test when it has either DUL, DYNA or DUHL in the name of the
test. This is done in order to protect you from scoring hits on
dial-up or
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XBL(LAST)dnsbl%IP4R%.sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.4
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XBL(ALL)ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
127.0.0.420
Scott/Matt, would a configuration like above require multiple DNS queries
since the
XBL(LAST)dnsbl%IP4R%.sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org127.0.0.4
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XBL(ALL)ip4rsbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
127.0.0.420
Scott/Matt, would a configuration like above require multiple DNS queries
since the hostnames defined in the tests are no longer identical? Or is
Bill,
The value is in scoring the last hop hits higher than prior hop hits.
In this case, a hit on XBL for the last appropriate hop (not
IPBYPASSED) would result in 8 points (6 + 2), while a hit on a prior
hop would result in just 2 points. Note that the number of false
positives is much
Title: Message
Matt,
I
think there is a misunderstanding (possibly on MY side).
DUL/DYNA/DUHL
tests from hitting your own local users when they are sending E-mail (only one
hop and typically dynamic/residential), Declude disables any dnsbl, ip4r or
rhsbl test when they have one of those
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Don,
Since I started this thread, I'll try to an
See below
Friday, May 14, 2004, 5:22:35 PM, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
M Andy Schmidt wrote:
M Matt,
M
M I think there is a misunderstanding (possiblyon MY side).
M
MDUL/DYNA/DUHL tests from hitting your ownlocal users when
M they are sending E-mail (only one hop and
M
Title: Message
Scott
(in case you're not gone yet):
At this
moment, Declude will not apply scores from any dnsbl, ip4r or rhsbl tests if
they have either DUL, DYNA or DUHL in the name AND the Mail From matches a local
user.
Does
Declude REALLY trust the mail from and will bypass
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