Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Don Brown
Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KB [Snip] KB KB On the buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in parity feature wise. KB KB Kevin Bilbee KB KB [Snip] If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only one version,

RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Simpson
Don, You are correct, it would be better to have only one product and that is why we are making the offer to customers to move to the highest level of the software at special pricing. We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that so for the foreseeable future we are maintaining the

Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Darin Cox
So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time? See why we're asking the questions? Darin. - Original Message - From: Barry Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.Virus@declude.com Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude Don, You

RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Simpson
Darin, You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at this moment. When the time arrives we will make a business decision that will be in the best interests of both our customers and ourselves. This is not a decision that will be made lightly or in the near future. We will not just

Re: [Declude.Virus] [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0

2006-02-12 Thread Don Brown
Saturday, February 11, 2006, 9:47:07 AM, David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DB [Snip] DB 5. With regards to Version 3.0 and 4.0 there is NO major difference in DB functionality except that 4.0 runs as a single product with Declude EVA PRO, DB Junkmail PRO and Hijack. Where as Version 3.0 still

RE: [Declude.Virus] [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0

2006-02-12 Thread David Barker
Let me quote myself on point 5. EXCEPT that 4.0 runs as a single product with Declude EVA PRO, Junkmail PRO and Hijack. Where as Version 3.0 still supports 3 individual products. As to NO major differences, there are NO major differences in functionality but rather minor differences which have

RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I noticed looking at my account the my version 4 license states Declude Imail Perpetual License Since v4 is the Subscription modle. If we are customers running on the Maintenance modle and we decide to not renew maintenance and have upgraded to version 4 will version 4 ever stop functioning for

RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Barry Simpson
All existing customers who choose to move to Version 4 will continue to pay Service Agreements. If they opt not to pay for the Service Agreement the software will continue to operate. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee

Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Darin Cox
Hmmm... Barry, that is exactly what I was asking before when I asked So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time [when v3 is discontinued] ? and you told me You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at this moment. When the time arrives we will make a business decision

RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Clear enough for me. Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 03:26 PM To: Declude.Virus@declude.com

Re: [Declude.Virus] [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0

2006-02-12 Thread IMail Admin
Hi David, I've been reading the posts from you and Barry, and while I understand what you're saying, there are aspects that leave me confused, and are confusing others. Normally, when a software product version changes from 3.0 to 4.0, that represents a significant change in features, not

RE: [Declude.Virus] [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0

2006-02-12 Thread David Barker
Hi Ben, Thanks for your post. And as I have posted before the point on the naming convention is well taken, however I would like to stress one important comment which you highlighted. I think most of us expect that you will eventually try to force us out of SAs into annual licensing. We highly

[Declude.Virus] Under specific conditions, action not as specified

2006-02-12 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox
Declude Version: 3.0.5.23 In GLOBAL.CFG STOPPROCESSINGONFIRSTDELETE ON In JunkMail, a message scores more than enough points to be DELETED. In VIRUS.CFG AVAFTERJM ON DELETEVULNERABILITIES OFF The result is that the message is moved to the /sppol/virus folder. It should have been deleted

Re: [Declude.Virus] Under specific conditions, action not as specified

2006-02-12 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Michael, Can you post some log snippet's from your junkmail logs showing this going through junkmail and the corresponding AV log entries. I run this exact same configuration and do not have this issue. Darrell Check

[Declude.Virus] Apologies

2006-02-12 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox
Hi All, I inadvertently sent a plain text message encoded as base64 to list. I had been comparing spammer generated plain text messages encoded as base64 to the same generated by Outlook Express. I forgot to switch it back. My Apologies, Michael Thomas Mathbox 978-683-6718 1-877-MATHBOX (Toll

Re: [Declude.Virus] Under specific conditions, action not as specified

2006-02-12 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox
Darrell, Ooops, my mistake All of the ones that I thought should have been deleted were for customers that had JunkMail processing blocked. So, it did do the right thing. Now, I need to fire off another email to support Mike --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA

Re: [Declude.Virus] [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0

2006-02-12 Thread Don Brown
I sent Barry an 'off-list' e-mail this morning and he called me today, Sunday. I sure wouldn't exactly call that the Ipswitch way of doing business; would you? We upgraded to v4 and it didn't hurt. We're staying with the maint model (not the subscription) and that's not going to hurt a bit,