Re: [libreoffice-design] Templates, styles, outline and bullets/numbering

2011-04-29 Thread Greg
2011/4/28 Greg greg.lu...@gmail.com: Hi, I believe Writer's template, style, outline and numbering facilities are in need of a rethink. The areas I think are weak, and this is by no means a full list, are: - The template organiser dialogue - who knows how to use it and what it's

Re: [libreoffice-design] Proposition to combine the Apply/Reset buttons

2011-04-29 Thread Astron
My position on this is, that once we provide Revert or Undo button, we'll (logically) have to add a Redo button, too. So, another idea could again be a dual button, this time [ ← | → ] (the icons should be those the global Undo/Redo function uses, too) -- these would duplicate only those

[libreoffice-design] Re: Design Team Kick-Off Step 4: What We Need - Review, Please

2011-04-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Christoph Noack wrote: @ Björn, Thorsten: I've CCed you, since you have been active in some discussions here - could you please scan the table and provide some feedback, please? My hope is that you may have a look at the sections: * Deliverables and Work Results * Cooperation

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Layout Concept - Update

2011-04-29 Thread Cyril Arnaud
That's a really nice mock up. But how do we make it a reality now ? On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 15:44 -0600, Scott Pledger wrote: I have done a bit more work on the layout concept I described in some earlier emails. Let me know what you think!! The File and View menus are interactive when you

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Layout Concept - Update

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Pledger
I'm working on that, too. From what I can see of the old graphical layout utility that we use, there is no way for us to create this in an easy fashion. What I think we can do, however, is to replace the old vcl library with something new. I'm looking at using XUL instead, but the problem so

Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?)

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Pledger
I've got a few new ideas in mind that we may be able to pull some of the code from vcl into... See the below excerpt from the 'New Layout Concept - Update' that I just posted: * I'm working on that, too. From what I can see of the old graphical layout * * utility that we use, there is no way for

Re: [libreoffice-design] Templates, styles, outline and bullets/numbering

2011-04-29 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/29 Greg greg.lu...@gmail.com: 2011/4/28 Greg greg.lu...@gmail.com: Hi, I believe Writer's template, style, outline and numbering facilities are in need of a rethink. The areas I think are weak, and this is by no means a full list, are: - The template organiser dialogue - who

[libreoffice-design] Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior

2011-04-29 Thread Michel RENON
Hi, Le 29/04/11 07:15, Scott Pledger a écrit : Is there any chance of implementing any kind of an XML-based UI template? Something similar to XUL may be a good place to start... Yours Truly, Scott Pledger You're not the first to have this idea ;-) I digged into some folders and found the

Re: [libreoffice-design] special process for urgent ux items ?

2011-04-29 Thread Michel RENON
Le 25/04/11 14:18, Christoph Noack a écrit : [...] How to start, well, maybe we can do it in a collaborative manner to evaluate the issues without (at the moment) using the bugtracker - to me, it seems to provide a better overview. Once we have some selected items, we might ask the developers

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about style name

2011-04-29 Thread Michel RENON
Le 26/04/11 22:04, Christoph Noack a écrit : Hi, [...] We discussed this issue many times at OOo, and I came to the following (personal) conclusion; we need ... * a more sensible selection of styles (e.g. attach the list styles to the paragraph styles intended for list use)

Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Venezuela logo - a proposal

2011-04-29 Thread Helio S. Ferreira
== Thanks guys, The idea is that this be used as a template for communities. I will work on other proposals, according to the suggestions. []'s On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:16 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/28 Helio S. Ferreira helio...@gmail.com: Hi Daniel, all. I'm

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about style name

2011-04-29 Thread RGB ES
2011/4/29 Michel RENON michel.re...@free.fr: Le 26/04/11 22:04, Christoph Noack a écrit : Hi, [...] We discussed this issue many times at OOo, and I came to the following (personal) conclusion; we need ...       * a more sensible selection of styles (e.g. attach the list styles        

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about style name

2011-04-29 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:38:15 -0700, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote: Hi Octavio, Ricardo, all! Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 10:20 -0700 schrieb Octavio Alvarez: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:35:08 -0700, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: there is no indicator on the user interface to

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about style name

2011-04-29 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all! Quick reply (tm) ... :-) Am Freitag, den 29.04.2011, 20:29 +0200 schrieb RGB ES: 2011/4/29 Michel RENON michel.re...@free.fr: Le 26/04/11 22:04, Christoph Noack a écrit : [ ... Styles Proposal ... ] Of course, there are other ways of improving the use of Styles ... but this

Re: [libreoffice-design] Questions about style name

2011-04-29 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Octavio! Am Freitag, den 29.04.2011, 11:47 -0700 schrieb Octavio Alvarez: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:38:15 -0700, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote: Hi Octavio, Ricardo, all! Am Mittwoch, den 27.04.2011, 10:20 -0700 schrieb Octavio Alvarez: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:35:08

Re: XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Scott Pledger
The more I look at the source code for vcl, the more I am beginning to dislike it And I'm looking at some of the other XML-based UI languages available and none of them really seem adequate to describe any kind of a major UI overhaul that would keep LibreOffice up to date with other office

Re: XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 13:18 -0600, Scott Pledger wrote: Any thoughts? Before we go overboard with this, I'd like to point out that a lot of us developers have already gone through quite a lot of brainstorming and trials and errors, and I don't want us to discuss this over here on the design

Re: XML based UI? (was: Re: Platform Independent vs. Platform Specific Behavior (was: Re: [libreoffice-design] Take inspiration from Lotus Symphony ?))

2011-04-29 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 18:11 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote: Hi Kohei, hi Scott! Kohei, thanks for the helpful information here ... great that you're listening here (especially since I know your workload...)! No problem. I decided to jump in because we (the developers) have been discussing

[libreoffice-design] Save as description in Save Options

2011-04-29 Thread Jared Meidal
I've found the list for alternative default file formats in the 3.4 betas (tested b2, b3) are being reworked. Perhaps it is still not close to being finalized, but I've noticed the file extensions .* are not included any more. I'm running this on WinXP currently. I would love to see this