Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules

2006-01-16 Thread RUAUDEL Frédéric
Nelson Benítez wrote: Alexander Larsson wrote: If we divide nautilus-action between backend (gconf entries that defines menu items in nautilus) and frontend (nautilus-actions ui for edit those gconf entries) I think the proper solution would be to integrate the backend part into nautilus

Re: Adaptive mode (Was: Re: Browser Mode by Default)

2006-01-16 Thread Michael R. Head
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 09:08 -0500, William Lovaton wrote: Hi Calum, It's a bit hard for me to explain, let's see: Imagine you are using the List View and you have many folders in it (let's say your home directory) in a way that real files are not visible, located well down in the

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 07:28 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: + quite a few people were assuming that 0.10 was the plan for 2.14 and were totally unaware that 0.8 had even been on the plan. Ubuntu and Fedora development versions (i.e. the distros that Elijah checked or found out

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi, Well Tim is working on just fixing Totem and gnome-media for 0.10 and will continue to do so for the next months at the minimum. Up to now his progress have been slow due to having to port over plugins for 0.8 as part of his porting effort, but now that this is mostly taken care of he can

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 11:59 +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: Hi, Well Tim is working on just fixing Totem and gnome-media for 0.10 and will continue to do so for the next months at the minimum. Up to now his progress have been slow due to having to port over plugins for 0.8 as

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 11:27 +, Bastien Nocera wrote: The problem is that the stuff that used to work doesn't anymore. Well stuff that used to cause crashes in 0.8 doesn't anymore, so it goes both ways. And there are over 80 opened bugs against the Totem GStreamer backend, most of them

Re: Special folders in gnome

2006-01-16 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 13 janvier 2006 à 22:38 +0100, Murray Cumming a écrit : On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 15:23 +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: Le vendredi 13 janvier 2006 à 14:56 +0100, Murray Cumming a écrit : By the way, I think Apple translate in the UI (maybe in the Shell too), but not on disk. I'm

Re: Adaptive mode (Was: Re: Browser Mode by Default)

2006-01-16 Thread Calum Benson
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 09:08 -0500, William Lovaton wrote: It's a bit hard for me to explain, let's see: Imagine you are using the List View and you have many folders in it (let's say your home directory) in a way that real files are not visible, located well down in the bottommost part of the

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Hi Christian, Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 14:45 +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller a écrit : And there are over 80 opened bugs against the Totem GStreamer backend, most of them should be either fixed in Totem, reassigned to GStreamer, or put on NEEDINFO (against 20 for the xine-lib

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Of those 80 most are from the 0.8 days. And they illustrate the problem with nobody working on the 0.8 stuff anymore. So, can we hope that some of you (Tim?) Let's not shovel too much dirt on Tim yet :) We're already passing him all of the hot potatoes. Tim's focusing on the 0.10

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 07:34 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit : Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 07:28 +0100, Vincent Untz a écrit : It is possible to have both 0.8 and 0.10 installed at the same time, so the decision could be to ship both and have modules use 0.10 if it works for them and

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 21:07 +0100, Thomas Vander Stichele a écrit : Hi, Of those 80 most are from the 0.8 days. And they illustrate the problem with nobody working on the 0.8 stuff anymore. So, can we hope that some of you (Tim?) Let's not shovel too much dirt on Tim yet

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Tim Müller
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 21:04 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: And there are over 80 opened bugs against the Totem GStreamer backend, most of them should be either fixed in Totem, reassigned to GStreamer, or put on NEEDINFO (against 20 for the xine-lib backend). Of those 80 most are from

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi Vincent, So the dual 0.8/0.10 thing for gnome-media has been discussed and our opinion was that we didn't want Tim to waste time working on a dual backend system when he already had a lot on his plate. Personally I think we should make 2.13 releases using 0.10. If the release team decide that

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Tim Müller
They could use basic triaging in the sense that someone should go through them and see what applies to the 0.10 version. I think that you'd find most GStreamer bug triagers to mark them as obsolete if they apply only to the 0.8 backend though, and I don't know if that's what you want

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Elijah Newren
On 1/16/06, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They could use basic triaging in the sense that someone should go through them and see what applies to the 0.10 version. I think that you'd find most GStreamer bug triagers to mark them as obsolete if they apply only to the 0.8 backend

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 21:44 +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller a écrit : Hi Vincent, So the dual 0.8/0.10 thing for gnome-media has been discussed and our opinion was that we didn't want Tim to waste time working on a dual backend system when he already had a lot on his plate.

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Luis Villa
On 1/16/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/16/06, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They could use basic triaging in the sense that someone should go through them and see what applies to the 0.10 version. I think that you'd find most GStreamer bug triagers to mark them

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Elijah Newren
On 1/16/06, Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://blogs.gnome.org/view/newren/2005/09/30/0 for more details where I'm coming from, but I'm basically going to disagree with Vincent here -- I think it should be perfectly fine to mark all those bugs as obsolete and tell the reporter

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 13:52 -0700, Elijah Newren a écrit : On 1/16/06, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They could use basic triaging in the sense that someone should go through them and see what applies to the 0.10 version. I think that you'd find most GStreamer bug

Re: nautilus-share status

2006-01-16 Thread Luis Villa
I seem to have missed any earlier emails about this (at least, I have none in the year since I've switched to gmail, unless google is lying to me.) What is it? Luis On 1/16/06, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Nautilus-share is code-complete now, except for a minor change

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Thomas Vander Stichele
Hi, Well, if all other changes that have been done/will be done in 2.13 are only fixes that can go in 2.12, then I guess it's okay. Thomas also proposed to add a patch for GStreamer 0.10 support in CVS and a configure switch that would apply the patch. My proposal was slightly different;

Re: Trying to reach consensus for the proposed modules

2006-01-16 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:58 +0100, Chipzz wrote: Gnome application is coming up with its own plug-in framework-- thus needlessly duplicating work. That's another thing - but weither that is possible... ? it is perfectly possible. There is a try in the gnome-office module in CVS, which

Re: Adaptive mode (Was: Re: Browser Mode by Default)

2006-01-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On 17 Jan, 2006, at 6:32 AM, Calum Benson wrote: On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 09:08 -0500, William Lovaton wrote: ... Imagine you are using the List View and you have many folders in it (let's say your home directory) in a way that real files are not visible, located well down in the bottommost part

Re: nautilus-share status

2006-01-16 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 17:27 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: I seem to have missed any earlier emails about this (at least, I have none in the year since I've switched to gmail, unless google is lying to me.) What is it? Fuck. Wrong mailing list :) Anyway, this is code to make nautilus-share use

New modules in 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Elijah Newren
Ok, here's what I'm guessing is the rough module consensus after having re-read or skimmed a ton of emails: In: - pyorbit (bindings suite) - deskbar-applet - fast-user-switch-applet (though this should be integrated in the panel later) - gnome-power-manager - gnome-screensaver - pessulus (new

strange linker error

2006-01-16 Thread Davyd Madeley
Has anyone seen an error like this before: ... /bin/sh ../../libtool --tag=F77 --mode=compile g77 -Icbk/ -O3 -fdollar-ok -Wno-globals -funroll-loops -fstrength-reduce -funderscoring -fno-second-underscore -DSWAPENDS -DINTEL_MLIB -DPOINTER_P=INTEGER -DSUBSCRIPT=INTEGER -DOSTYPE=LINUX -c -o

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Davyd Madeley
Quoting Elijah Newren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - pessulus (new admin suite[2]) - sabayon[1] (also in new admin suite) I think these should only be part of a GNOME Admin Suite. We shouldn't ship them with the Desktop release. These will only serve to clutter the menus of those who don't know how

Re: New modules in 2.14

2006-01-16 Thread Richard Hughes
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 19:13 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: [1] gnome-power-manager and sabayon have not been having recent and regular releases, which would be easy to fix, but could be a cause of worry if not done soon for the upcoming releases. I've been waiting for HAL 0.5.6 to be released for