Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: can you please explain to me, in a short sentence, what do you want to achieve? not how, but precisely what. I have said that already: I want to enable the design team to work productively with the entire GNOME development community. Right now a small number of

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Juanjo MarĂ­n
- Mensaje original - De: Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org Para: Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com CC: desktop-devel-list@gnome.org Enviado: lunes 6 de junio de 2011 10:59 Asunto: Re: On the Interaction with the design team Hi, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: can you please explain to me,

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hey all. I was planning on staying out of this one, conflict-avoidant creature that I tend to be. But I'm with Dave: To sum it all up, I believe the current dynamic of the design team is doing damage to GNOME as a community. I would love to find ways for the design team and the

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi Allan! Yes. *I* was annoyed by the recent Deja Dup discussion, and felt that the developer got short-changed at the end of the day. I was very annoyed at the systemd as external dependency discussion, and the message that some people following along the GNOME OS meme sent to developers on

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 03:44:06PM +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: * You need to give up your brand Deja Dup if you want to be part of GNOME * Deja-Dup isn't allowed to exist in parallel as a application Those requirements are only due to the proposed switch from GNOME Apps suite to GNOME Core,

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Allan Day
Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi Allan! Yes. *I* was annoyed by the recent Deja Dup discussion, and felt that the developer got short-changed at the end of the day. I was very annoyed at the systemd as external dependency discussion, and the message that some people following along the GNOME

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
Hey Allan. But past interactions have (in my personal experience) been negative. Can you elaborate? Yes, but I was (and am) somewhat hesitant to because I honestly don't wish to stir pots. I'd rather just move forward in a positive direction. And perhaps you read my mind in that regard

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Lapo Calamandrei
Hi Dave, 2011/6/6 Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org: Hi, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: can you please explain to me, in a short sentence, what do you want to achieve? not how, but precisely what. I have said that already: I want to enable the design team to work productively with the entire GNOME

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Xan Lopez
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: To sum it all up, I believe the current dynamic of the design team is doing damage to GNOME as a community. I think what is really doing damage to the community is this kind of hyperbolic accusation around the design team

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Joanmarie Diggs joan...@gnome.org wrote: Hey Allan. But past interactions have (in my personal experience) been negative. Can you elaborate? Yes, but I was (and am) somewhat hesitant to because I honestly don't wish to stir pots. I'd rather just move

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread John Stowers
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 13:42 +0100, Allan Day wrote: Dave Neary wrote: Hi, So, in short, I would like the design team to act like the gnome-utils team. GNOME design has all the equivalent facilities [1, 2, 3] excluding the mailing list. Again, I agree (and have never disagreed)

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi Olav! The confusion was cleared up pretty quickly once we moved off desktop-devel-list. May I ask why these things move off desktop-devel-list? Maybe I missed the mail that said that discussion is taking place elsewhere but I don't think there was one. Regards, Johannes signature.asc

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:37:17PM +0200, Johannes Schmid wrote: The confusion was cleared up pretty quickly once we moved off desktop-devel-list. May I ask why these things move off desktop-devel-list? Maybe I missed the mail that said that discussion is taking place elsewhere but I don't