Re: I am Lord of the Theme (aka the buck stops here)

2005-02-17 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 22:59 -0500, Seth Nickell wrote: The Wiki page is now updated http://live.gnome.org/NewDefaultTheme . As much as possible please try to direct discussions on themes into the bins found there rather than feeding another mega-thread. I added a sanity checklist for themes

Re: gobject patch to track memory use

2005-02-24 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 18:23 +0100, Alexander Larsson wrote: I spent some day today hacking up a patch to gobject that lets you track what types of GObjects are using memory. It keeps a list of all live objects, and when you send the process a SIGUSR2 it prints a memory profile. For the size

gnome-desktop vs. libgnomeui

2005-05-04 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, I was looking at this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136271 It happens when you visit smb:// from a GtkFileChooser, or when you go to a folder that has .desktop files in it. The file chooser should handle .desktop files as if they were symlinks, but it doesn't. The

Re: gnome-desktop vs. libgnomeui

2005-05-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 21:56 +0200, Chipzz wrote: It happens when you visit smb:// from a GtkFileChooser, or when you go to a folder that has .desktop files in it. The file chooser should handle .desktop files as if they were symlinks, but it doesn't. And what if that is exactly what you

Re: i18n and GNOME hackers

2005-06-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 17:52 +0200, Danilo egan wrote: I support this initiative by Frederic, and let me add that apart from misreferenced gettext domain names, it's not uncommon for programmers to miss appropriate calls to set up translation when they switch to GtkUIManager (from

Certification for GNOME apps

2005-07-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, One of the marketing efforts that the Foundation Board discussed during GUADEC is the possibility of having certification levels for GNOME applications. Apps that get rated higher are nicer or more GNOME-like; hopefully we can use the rating metrics to let users gauge how well a particular

Heads-up: overwrite confirmation for GtkFileChooser

2005-07-14 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, I just implemented overwrite confirmation for the file chooser. You have to enable this feature explicitly, to keep compatibility with applications that already pop up their custom confirmation dialogs. Please read this blog entry for the details:

Old versions of GNOME [was: Re: gtk 2.8 for gnome 2.12]

2005-07-21 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:18 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: [1] worth noting that if Novell is concerned about the stability of HEAD, or the violation of promises about quality, Novell is more than welcome to participate in the QA team. It would be even more exciting if (like Ubuntu, or Red Hat)

Re: Detecting GNOME

2005-07-25 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 21:22 +0200, Tomasz Melcer wrote: Is there a simple way to check if GNOME manages an X display? This is something that people have requested when looking at the GNOME ISV guide. Maybe we should have gnome-session set a property on the root window, pointing to an

Re: change an environment variable in a running gnome session

2005-07-29 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 12:18 -0300, Fabio Rafael da Rosa wrote: I dont know if this is possible, but I wan't to change an environment variable in a gnome session, so the change became visible to gnome without having to restart the gnome session. Is this possible? Short answer: You can't.

Re: Removing xrdb for 10% startup win?

2005-08-31 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 22:30 -0500, William Lovaton wrote: Not exactly I guess, I think Lorenzo means something more like grope. I wonder why a function reordering thingy like this is still missing on Linux. [] http://lwn.net/1998/1029/als/rope.html There's work in progress to do function

Re: invalid arguments to public API: g_assert, g_return_if_fail or continue with undefined behavior

2005-09-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 12:48 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: I'd really like to have a GNOME-wide policy for dealing with public API and invalid arguments. The GNOME Programming Guidelines are pretty clear on this: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/robust.html See

cdda:// URIs and the default handler

2005-09-20 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, I'm debugging this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315877 The way to duplicate the bug is to insert an audio CD, and double-click the CD icon that appears on the desktop. You'll get an unfriendly dialog from Nautilus. We don't compile the cdda module in gnome-vfs by default.

Re: cdda:// URIs and the default handler

2005-09-20 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 23:00 +0200, Christian Neumair wrote: I see no point in using a shell script as cdda handler. We have IMHO two options: a) teach totem cdda:/// URIs, no matter whether a GnomeVFS module is installed for this. I guess the basic problem is having redundant keys: 1.

Re: do we really need xrdb?

2005-10-17 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 17:32 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: Using a smaller CPP and delaying xrdb's execution until everything else is started is the right solution here. You need to run xrdb before gnome-session (re)starts any Motif apps, for example. Federico

Re: Keyboard usage on some Gnome windows not working

2005-10-26 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 01:52 -0700, Alex Graveley wrote: Speaking of Emacs, one of my favorite features has always been when executing an M-x command that the minibar flashes the shortcut sequence you _could_ have used for the same task. I find that I learn the commands I use most often[1]

Re: Proposal for inclusion in Desktop: pessulus

2005-10-28 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 16:04 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Pessulus is a lockdown editor for GNOME, written in python. Code is available in GNOME CVS, and there are already some translations (many thanks to the translators). There's no documentation yet, though. Let's get this in. People love

Re: Making GNOME crash

2005-11-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 17:39 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: The next releases of glib (HEAD and glib-2-8) will support a new debug flag for the G_DEBUG environment variable: fatal_criticals. This make the program crash on critical warnings. I'm all for this. One thing we discussed on IRC is to

Re: Adding icons to the desktop, without placing them in ~/Desktop.

2005-11-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 16:10 +0100, Erik Forsberg wrote: I'd like to add icons to the desktop of users, without copying .desktop-files to ~/Desktop of the user. I need to do it while running as the user, and the icons can be different for every user, so system-wide directories are not an

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 12:20 -0500, David Malcolm wrote: So here's a (possibly crazy) suggestion: during development releases, enable a11y by default, and during stable releases, disable it by default. That way people running jhbuild, GARNOME etc would be running all of the a11y code, and any

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 12:00 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: FWIW, it effectively disables the reduced resources mode in metacity (except that the minimization animation remains off) which would result in part of Metacity being untested. So what you want is a tool to test code coverage, and an

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 20:23 +0100, Claudio Saavedra wrote: Considering that there are pros and cons, why force all developers, contributors and testers to take part in this? If you want a stable development platform, use the stable series, not CVS HEAD. When things start breaking in the basic

IMPORTANT: fix critical warnings before January 1st

2005-11-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Dear hackers of GNOME, Vincent announced this the other day: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-November/msg6.html And there was a discussion of how to implement this plan. Glib now supports setting an environment variable, G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals. Doing this will

Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-21 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 16:34 +, John Rice wrote: Doing 'cat' of a big file in gnome-terminal was the only area where a significant difference was seen. Approx 45 secs with A11Y ON, and 42.4 secs with A11Y Off. All other areas looked at above were not significantly different comparing

Re: High Contrast Icons

2005-11-22 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 22:40 +, Thomas Wood wrote: If an application calls itself accessible, having high contrast icons should be one of the requirements. Applications are allowed to install icons into the hicolor theme; if we're really taking accessibility seriously, then high

Re: [g-a-devel] Re: Enable accessibility by default in development releases?

2005-11-29 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 08:16 +, Padraig O'Briain wrote: Our accessibility QA guys have tested these changes and find that they do not impact the accessibility of gnome-terminal. My reading of the vte code was that these signals were being emitted too often. The signal will now be emitted

API documentation requirements for next releases

2005-11-30 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
any newly deprecated interfaces as such. 3. Any new module proposed for the platform must be fully documented. [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-November/msg00216.html [2] http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirteen/Platform -- Federico Mena Quintero

Re: API documentation requirements for next releases

2005-12-02 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 10:33 -0500, JP Rosevear wrote: Is there a deadline for when this has to be done by? Getting to the hard freeze and then realizing, oops not done, but people now depend on the API would be a bad thing. Yes, the deadline is one week after API freeze. For this release

Reminder: fix critical warnings before Jan. 1st

2005-12-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, This is a reminder to fix all critical warnings before January 1st. On that day, users of gnome-session HEAD will get G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals turned on automatically. Let's find those bugs and kill them! Federico ___ desktop-devel-list mailing

Re: libgtop has been branched

2005-12-09 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 17:23 +0100, Benoît Dejean wrote: * include/glibtop/cpu.h: * include/glibtop/procmap.h: Increased GLIBTOP_NCPU to 32. Added real_ncpu to struct glibtop. Added smaps members to glibtop_map_entry. If you have any suggestion ... Make that

Re: Dependency question for gnome dictionary

2005-12-15 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 23:46 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: This library tries to address feature requests for the Dictionary, and fixes the leaks and unmaintainable code that plagued the old Dictionary code base. I'd like to propose it for inclusion in the 2.14 release: I can guarantee

Re: Debian and the GFDL problem

2006-01-04 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 19:41 +0100, Jordi Mallach wrote: As many might be aware, the Debian project has been concerned about the non-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation Licence for a few years already, and although conversations with the Free Software Foundation have been ongoing for at

Gnome-session 2.12.0 STILL in 2.13.4 release

2006-01-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, It looks like there have been no released tarballs of gnome-session for the 2.13 series. As a result, we are still using gnome-session-2.12.0, which does NOT have the crash-on-critical-warnings code. Who can make a gnome-session tarball for us? Federico

Re: Dtrace and glib

2006-01-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 01:06 -0700, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: I have gnusolaris (nexenta os) installed and was running dtrace on evolution to find memory leaks. When I was running valgrind on evolution, couple of months back, I had a custom built gnome environment with a disabled mem pool

Re: getting panel stack traces [was Re: [BLOCKER] [CRASH] latest libbonobo commit crash a lot of applets]

2006-01-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 07:57 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: Googling for 'stack trace panel applet' throws up the wiki: http://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces#head-6f388e997f046b1f5170576bdb852d4f1b2c93a6 Why does bug-buddy not work for applets? Federico

Re: getting panel stack traces [was Re: [BLOCKER] [CRASH] latest libbonobo commit crash a lot of applets]

2006-01-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 21:19 +0100, Luca Ferretti wrote: Well, my issue was a non-crash, but a load failure related to bonobo-activation. Using the method describe on wiki I was able to load failing applets. Hmm. What was the actual problem? Does the panel or bonobo-activation need more

Re: getting panel stack traces [was Re: [BLOCKER] [CRASH] latest libbonobo commit crash a lot of applets]

2006-01-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 16:30 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: On 1/13/06, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. What was the actual problem? Does the panel or bonobo-activation need more robust code to detect/fix that kind of condition? Luca claimed that it was fixed already

Re: nautilus-share status

2006-01-16 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 17:27 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: I seem to have missed any earlier emails about this (at least, I have none in the year since I've switched to gmail, unless google is lying to me.) What is it? Fuck. Wrong mailing list :) Anyway, this is code to make nautilus-share use

Glib 2.10 / Pango 1.? for GNOME 2.14?

2006-01-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Sorry that I dropped the ball on this, and haven't followed all the discussion. Other than Pango optimizations and and GSlice in Glib, is there a compelling reason to use the new Glib/Pango in GNOME 2.14? - Was the ABI issue resolved with respect to GObject floating references? Changing the

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 16:14 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: JWZ is an ass, and has been for a long time. If forced to take the admittedly unpleasant choice between overwhelming maintainers so that they never look at bugzilla at all, or incorrectly closing bugs which might be reopened later, we

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 00:22 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Is GNOME 2.10 maintained? The way things are, that's almost equivalent to asking whether any distributions with long-running support commitments ever shipped GNOME 2.10. We already discussed this once:

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 14:06 -0500, Luis Villa wrote: His tantrum was on our extremely irresponsible transition from 1.x to 2.0, where no one bothered to see if there were regressions, we didn't provide a migration path for user's settings, we didn't write migration documents for all the

Re: Glib 2.10 / Pango 1.? for GNOME 2.14?

2006-01-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 09:13 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: I think a better way to rephrase Federico's question is: should the floating stuff be rolled back? I think that was discussed and closed already. So we have a glib release that we want to not use?! The question is really about

Re: GStreamer version for 2.14

2006-01-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 12:44 -0700, Elijah Newren wrote: So, here's my proposal: Ship with 0.10. Have everything default to it. Also include 0.8 in the ftp directory, but not used. Include a big old section in the release notes explaining the situation and letting people know that they can

[Fwd: Document font pref [was: Re: asking for approval for bug 160454]]

2006-01-26 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Does anyone know if we use the Document Font gconf key anywhere other than Epiphany? Federico ---BeginMessage--- HI, Le jeudi 26 janvier 2006 à 11:50 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero a écrit : On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 18:48 +0100, Christian Persch wrote: the patch [http://bugzilla.gnome.org

Re: New schemas aren't picked up by running gconfd-2 [was Re: rawhide report: 20060125 changes]

2006-01-26 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 14:51 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Watching them with fam/gamin should be possible to achieve with the merged tree backend. Sadly, gnome-VFS is out of question because it depends on GConf itself. Rumor says that gamin isn't maintained anymore. Let's just move to

Re: control-center 2.13.90 released

2006-01-31 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 10:14 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: I think the first step is for someone to simply spend a little time figuring out what is slow: - Gradients - Scaled images - Solid color backgrounds? If we are scaling images *via Cairo* that is known to be slow with older X

Re: control-center 2.13.90 released

2006-01-31 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 15:08 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote: Profiling the capplet won't help at all. It's not actually doing any of the drawing on the desktop. Someone needs to profile nautilus and/or the gnome-settings-daemon processes. These are the places where the drawing happens. Albeit much

Re: libgnomeui branched to libgnomeui-2-14

2006-02-03 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 12:13 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: 2.14 will use the libgnomeui-2-14 branch; it is anchored on the tag LIBGNOMEUI_2_14_BRANCHPOINT. I just updated the moduleset in jhbuild for this; make sure you update your jhbuild to get this info. Any reason for not calling the

Re: breakage caused by removed icons from gnome-icon-theme

2006-02-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 11:00 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote: Someone should file some bugs then. Just complaining that /some/ icons /may/ be missing isn't going to get it fixed. And, fwiw, the ABI stability guarantee doesn't seem to apply to the desktop, but only the developer platform. And

Plan to fix icons [was: Re: breakage caused by removed icons from gnome-icon-theme]

2006-02-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 13:09 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote: 1. Can we get this mess fixed (either by fixing apps, or by providing fallbacks/symlinks/whatever) before the 2.14 release? I see no problems with getting things patched to use new icons, and adding symlinks/fallbacks where

Re: Gnome-utils branched to gnome-2-14

2006-02-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 17:06 +, Alan Horkan wrote: I remain baffled how the file chooser button was designed. Everywhere we have text entries followed by a Browse button but the File Chooser button looks nothing like this. Instead of a widget to encapsulate this established idea there

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-10 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 09:10 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: + glib + pango: the only objection was Federico's gripe about the floating reference in glib 2.9. Federico, do you have an update on this? Most people seemed to be happy to go with the new versions (new stuff is gslice,

Re: requesting official list of modules and versions for GNOME 2.14

2006-02-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 21:33 +, Thomas Wood wrote: Is there any way of reliably profiling gtk engines? As far as I am aware there is no way (short of actually placing hooks in the engine) of knowing when the engine has finished painting a widget or window. To know when you are finished

Re: critical warnings; turn them off now?

2006-03-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 15:39 +, Bill Haneman wrote: Since we're now in code freeze for 2.14, shouldn't we turn off the critical warnings behavior in gnome-session now? They'll turn themselves on automatically when the version number reaches .14; they are on in .13 (they are based on

Re: Applications launched from dbus missing SESSION_MANAGER env. var.

2006-03-13 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 19:44 +, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: I have a problem with a program that behaves badly when launched from dbus[1], as opposed from starting manually from terminal, run dialog, or deskbar applet. To see what was going on, I extracted the environment of the

Re: Proposal to add Orca to GNOME 2.16

2006-04-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 00:11 +0200, Fernando Herrera wrote: [X] Screen Reader ( ) Use generic screen reader (gnopernicus) (*) Use per-app customizable screen reader (Orca) [Show supported apps] The user has no chance of answering this question correctly. Per-app? What if I have an app that

Re: Tomboy in 2.16

2006-04-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 14:33 -0700, Alex Graveley wrote: Tomboy is a desktop note-taking application for Gnome and is bundled by many major distributions. I think it counts as a popular and worthwhile software. Should we bite the bullet and add it to the Gnome desktop officially? I'm all

Re: Re:Mono bindings a blessed dependency? [Was: Tomboy in 2.16]

2006-04-20 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 23:00 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: The desktop already depends on the bindings since we have some python love in the desktop :-) The question is, do we accept all languages in the desktop, or just a small selection of what's available in the bindings (and which

Re: Resolution Independence in Gnome

2006-04-27 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 10:47 -0300, Steven Garrity wrote: With all of the blue-sky talk about Gnome 3, whatever that may be, I've been wondering about resolution independence in Gnome. The thing that will get us closest to being resolution-independent is to make spacing in GTK+ not be based on

Re: Resolution Independence in Gnome

2006-04-27 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 17:17 -0400, Dominic Lachowicz wrote: That's not quite true. In every test that I've done, librsvg + Cairo is between 2 and 10 times faster than librsvg + libart was. And librsvg + libart was faster loading many of these SVG icons than libpng was at loading the

Re: I18n in plugin

2006-05-22 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 14:06 +0800, Yang Hong wrote: There are many applications use plugin based architecture to expand it's function, such as Evolution (EPlugin), Anjuta 2.x, Gedit, Gaim, Xchat-gnome, etc. The problem is that if the plugins was released outside of the main app, the user

Re: 2.15.x: 'loading theme icon for stock' problem persists...

2006-06-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 17:02 +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote: Gtk-WARNING **: Error loading theme icon for stock: Failed to open file '': No such file or directory GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

Re: 2.15.x: 'loading theme icon for stock' problem persists...

2006-06-07 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 14:05 -0400, Joseph E. Sacco, Ph.D. wrote: I just tried out Frederic's suggestion: * uninstall gtk+-2.9.2 * extract the source from the f.g.o tarball * rm gtk/gtkbuiltincache.h * build * install The bad news is I still see the error. You may need to 1. tar xvf

Re: 2.15.x: 'loading theme icon for stock' problem persists...

2006-06-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 20:52 +0200, Jürg Billeter wrote: Should be fixed in CVS http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gtk%2B/gtk/Makefile.am?r1=1.309r2=1.310 Excellent catch, like swatting flies with a whip. Thanks for the fix :) Federico ___

Re: Memory consumption and virtual machines

2006-07-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 18:29 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: I'm waiting for the decision (yours) of making this optional using a compilation flag or at run-time. Let's do this in the usual manner: 0. Polish the patch in the usual way: make sure it follows the indentation and naming conventions

Re: focus! (was Re: Focusing on innovation re: mono, python et al)

2006-07-18 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 11:14 -0700, Rich Burridge wrote: One of the things I like about the Mac OS X desktop (and Windows Xp desktop for that matter), is that all applications provided by the vendor have a consistent lookfeel. If I'm familiar with one application on that platform, then I

Re: focus!

2006-07-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 11:17 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote: Big tangent: the GNOME Certification plan will help in defining what is a good GNOME application and what isn't. That certification will include things like consistent lookfeel [insert a lot of handwaving about how to quantify

Re: focus!

2006-07-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 11:38 +0100, Brian Nitz wrote: Do we know what level of accessibility is possible within the current mono framework? Do we know what level of accessibility is likely (e.g. with C# apps ported from other platforms?) Semi-informed reply (Mike Kestner, the gtk-sharp

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Memory consumption and virtual machines

2006-07-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 17:40 +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: ... On the other hand, Philip, next time we meet in person I'll happily buy you dinner :) oh ... what about Boston? :) I'll check with my daytime employer whether it's okay if I can visit the Summit. I don't know for sure

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Memory consumption and virtual machines

2006-07-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 01:10 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 23:05 +, Philip Van Hoof wrote: If Novell wants me to implement unit tests (or other tests) for this, I will ask for payment. I am afraid that you won't get paid as Camel already has a

Re: Mummy, I made a platform in my pants! [Was: focus!]

2006-07-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 10:50 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: A fucking amazing platform isn't an accident, and we need a fucking amazing platform to bring more developers to GNOME - both internal developers and external developers. One of our *crucial* audiences must be FLOSS hackers and ISDs. If we

Common knowledge in jhbuild for funny modules

2006-08-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
PolicyKit wants to install /lib/security/pamblahblah.so. Since I don't run jhbuild as root, and I definitely don't want it to mess with my system installation, I need to 1. wait for the (already painful) jhbuild process to reach PolicyKit, and watch it fail. 2. Parse the error in my head.

Re: Common knowledge in jhbuild for funny modules

2006-08-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 19:35 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: Then, we have avahi, which lists dbus-python as a dependency. In turn, jhbuild requires pyrex in order to build dbus-python. However, pyrex is *not* installed as part of jhbuild's bootstrap installation of Python. So, dbus

Re: RFC GnomeGoal #3

2006-08-11 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 11:22 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: I've written up on GNOME Goal #3: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoalsSaveState Currently, a lot of applications will be using GConf to save state, like window sizes, whether or not a window is maximised on startup, etc. This is

Re: Cancel session shutdown

2006-08-22 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 09:58 +0200, Xavier Claessens wrote: I'm implementing D-Bus support in xchat/xchat-gnome and here is something I want to do: When the X session is closing and xchat has DCC transfers running I want to be notified and in some cases cancel the session shutdown. What you

Re: How can I get the default X display depth?

2006-09-04 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 19:32 +0800, simon.zheng wrote: I failed to get display depth by gdk_rgb_get_visual(). 1. I set my X display as depth 8. #xdypinfo | grep depth depth of root window:8 planes 2.Then, I create a new pixmap on 8-bit using the code, pixmap = gdk_pixmap_new

Re: gnome desktop integration library

2006-09-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 13:45 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: This has never made sense to me - what would be not able to go in gtk or other appropriate lib? There just isn't anything. I'd say the definition of gtk is an API for writing GUI apps. So if something is usually needed to write GUI

Re: gnome desktop integration library

2006-09-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 14:27 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: I see nothing wrong with a gtk_get_screensaver_is_active() function. Lots of apps need that, why would gtk be against this? because of the D-BUS dependency? It makes sense to have, as you mentioned, screensaver stuff in GTK, but the

Re: International Space Station Images

2006-09-20 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 14:52 +0400, Maxim Udushlivy wrote: Murray, I was thinking once that you present gtkmm as something superior to GTK+ on purpose, but recently I changed my opinion. Your desire to expose gtkmm in the most advantageous fashion is understandable. But how can you explain

Re: Gnome-Panel Customization

2006-09-20 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 15:50 +0100, Paulo César Silva wrote: I am using the Suse 9 SP3. I need to disable/lock some features of Suse Gnome. Among several things, we want to lock user's access to the terminal. We tried the GConf Command Line Tool, and put this command: gconftool-2 --direct

Re: Proposing Tracker for inclusion into GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 23:21 +0100, Jamie McCracken wrote: The main reason was I didn't like the way GNOME uses loads of different, inefficient and incompatible means of storing information (think Berkeley DB for EDS, MBox for emails, the zillions of small performance draining XML files

Re: Proposing Tracker for inclusion into GNOME 2.18

2006-10-23 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 22:15 +0100, Nick Murtagh wrote: Mariano Suárez-Alvarez wrote: I have no idea what ‘first class object database’ means, so please explain what you mean by that if you need to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_class_%28computing%29 That's database jargon, and it's

Re: Notes on the Metacity compositor

2006-10-23 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 20:27 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: Assuming that bias, there's no real point having two ways to implement the one concept of workspace, instead you just want a flag for whether windows overlap... Yawn.

Helper to collect more info in bug-buddy

2006-11-24 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, I recently added code to Nautilus to collect logging information. This log is dumped to a file in the user's home directory when Nautilus crashes [1]. However, it is cumbersome to tell users, please send that file as well as the bug-buddy report when you get a crash. It would be good if

Re: [bug-buddy]: Custom scripts for your application

2006-11-29 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 21:16 +0200, Fernando Herrera wrote: Now if you add to your application .dektop file the field: X-GNOME-Bugzilla-ExtraInfoScript=myscript that script will be executed during bug-buddy info collecting and its output will be appended to the report. Fer, you totally

Re: Searching for new Sabayon maintainer

2006-12-15 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El vie, 15-12-2006 a las 17:13 +0100, Alexander Larsson escribió: I've been the official Sabayon maintainer for a while now, but the truth is that I have zero time for it, so I've been mostly ignoring it. However, this is an important application, and its important that it gets maintainance

Re: Beagle CPU usage (was Proposed module: tracker)

2007-01-15 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El lun, 15-01-2007 a las 16:31 +, Bastien Nocera escribió: On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 10:15 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: snip We put a call to setrlimit() in gst-office-thumbnailer, so that the helper convert(1) process is limited to 256 MB of memory and 5 seconds of CPU time. Some

Bug buddy for python apps?

2007-01-19 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Dear freedom lovers, Does anyone have a code snippet to hook up bug-buddy to python apps? I want bug-buddy to fire up when a program gets an unhandled exception from Python. Love, Federico ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list

Re: Beagle CPU usage (was Proposed module: tracker)

2007-01-22 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El mar, 16-01-2007 a las 11:05 +, Bastien Nocera escribió: On Mon, 2007-01-15 at 19:02 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: The right fix is to put this in libgnomeui/gnome-thumbnail.c, so that all thumbnailers get the same treatment. We just did this for gsf-office-thumbnailer because

Sabayon branched to gnome-2-18

2007-01-29 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
Hi, I've just created a branch for Sabayon for GNOME 2.18. You can check it out with svn checkout svn+ssh://svn.gnome.org/svn/sabayon/branches/gnome-2-18 I've already updated jhbuild/modulesets/gnome-2.18.modules for this. Further development of the unstable branch will continue in

Re: New Control Centre

2007-02-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El lun, 05-02-2007 a las 19:19 +, Alex Jones escribió: It's slow. Yes. No one has done any profiling work on it yet. Want to start? It's no slower than the old panel menus, which get purged from memory after a few minutes --- when popping them up, my laptop churned for about 7 seconds

Re: New Control Centre

2007-02-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El mar, 06-02-2007 a las 12:52 +1100, Russell Shaw escribió: If profiling has to be done to make a menu faster, it is pretty obvious the system it is built on is stupidly inefficient and broken, especially if said menu is slow on a 10 year old pc. Ah, bingo. Almost 10 years ago, when GNOME

Re: Menu being purged from memory? Was: New Control Centre

2007-02-05 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El mar, 06-02-2007 a las 01:37 +, Richard Hughes escribió: Hmm. How do you stop the menus being purged? This is in reference to my blog about optimizing GNOME for speed for a large memory system [1]. Either I'm a total liar, or I can't find that code anymore. Probably both :) I'd assume

Re: New Control Centre

2007-02-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El mar, 06-02-2007 a las 09:27 +0100, Vincent Untz escribió: Lalalala, you're a total liar again ;-) Damn. It's this bad habit I have. Would be interesting to know why it takes 7 seconds, though. The menu should be preloaded, so only loading the icons should take time, but it's happening

Re: New Control Centre

2007-02-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El mar, 06-02-2007 a las 11:26 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero escribió: I'd love a way to monitor what the kernel pages in, and to have a way to start/stop that monitoring at runtime [yes, it's called DTrace]. And by the way, the people who already have Solaris boxes could do a *GREAT* service

Re: New Control Centre

2007-02-06 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El mar, 06-02-2007 a las 10:14 +, jamie escribió: On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 21:19 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: Now that we have hundreds of .desktop files, it is not a good idea anymore to have them scattered all around the disk. You are absolutely right; the system it is built

Re: direction [Re: slab menu]

2007-02-08 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El jue, 08-02-2007 a las 16:37 -0600, Travis Watkins escribió: On 2/8/07, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: obscenely hard it is to include a landscape page for a diagram in a book whose pages are in portrait orientation. Ooh, is that actually possible? I couldn't figure out

Re: Beagle CPU usage (was Proposed module: tracker)

2007-03-27 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El mar, 27-03-2007 a las 00:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera escribió: I implemented your code some time ago in Totem's unstable branch, and I was wondering why movies weren't getting thumbnailed anymore. I couldn't mmap files larger than 256 megs. [snip] FYI, I've modified Totem's code to take

Re: Beagle CPU usage (was Proposed module: tracker)

2007-03-28 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
El mié, 28-03-2007 a las 01:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera escribió: I'll note that even if it doesn't do anything, modifying the thumbnailers to not mmap the files they're trying to thumbnail goes against your original point of the thumbnailers being third-party applications we had no control

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