Hi all,
Le 06/10/2013 21:44, Christian Grobmeier a écrit :
James,
thank you.
I believe Commons is in a bad shape.
Look at Commons Collections. Before 4 years somebody
said Guava is more modern, he his answer seems to be widely accepted.
http://stackoverflow.com/a/167/690771
This
I believe that the problem is Commons structure. To have one big project
which such a lot of subprojects blocks building a small community. You're
not supposed to be a part of the small subproject, but the big community
Commons. While the former would be appealing for a newcomer, the latter
just
Document what you can hold, so that there isn't overly much promise.
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote:
Hi all,
over this weekend I added 7z support to the compress antlib which I also
like to use as a second testbed for Commons Compress - I even
Hi Jochen,
Well summarized.
And I think you figured out what the real problem is.
We could work as in Incubator, isn't it?
Having one big umbrella and real subprojects.
JLouis
2013/10/7 Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com
I believe that the problem is Commons structure. To have one
+1
Le 7 oct. 2013 12:58, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO jeano...@gmail.com a écrit :
Hi Jochen,
Well summarized.
And I think you figured out what the real problem is.
We could work as in Incubator, isn't it?
Having one big umbrella and real subprojects.
JLouis
2013/10/7 Jochen Wiedmann
On 7 Oct 2013, at 12:58, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
Hi Jochen,
Well summarized.
And I think you figured out what the real problem is.
We could work as in Incubator, isn't it?
Having one big umbrella and real subprojects.
What would be the difference to now?
I understand Commons as a
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote:
What would be the difference to now?
The difference can be *huge*, emotionally. For example, I felt quite at
home at the webservices project when working in JaxMe, XML-RPC, or Axis.
OTOH, I feel completely isolated,
On 7 Oct 2013, at 13:58, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.comwrote:
What would be the difference to now?
The difference can be *huge*, emotionally. For example, I felt quite
at
home at the webservices project when working in JaxMe,
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote:
On 7 Oct 2013, at 13:58, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com
wrote:
What would be the difference to now?
The difference can be *huge*, emotionally.
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
We discuss magic strings in the sandbox. Why? We don't need to discuss that.
Before we release we can simply check Sonar. Safe the time to discuss. Fix
it or leave it to Sonar to report it.
+1! This sort of
Hi SCXML developers/community,
We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML development
is, and and/or who in the community might be interested in re-activating it.
From the mailing lists and JIRA activity we gather not much has been happening
here for a very long time:
Hello Ate,
we are going through some discussions at the moment about how we want to
organize development at commons in the future [1].
We are always looking for people that want to contribute so I see no reason
why you shouldn't dig right into the code.
Regarding the reviewing: I don't now the
Hi,
since we have discussed a lot of different aspects, it may be time to sum
things up a bit (please correct me or add things I've missed):
Release Management - Releases take too long
- Build is overly complex
- dependencies to parent pom seem to be unclear
- to few releases (more releases may
On 10/7/13 7:40 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
Hi SCXML developers/community,
We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML
development is, and and/or who in the community might be
interested in re-activating it.
From the mailing lists and JIRA activity we gather not much has
Hi Great Idea.
In my case I could test software and contribute a bit.
Juan Antonio
On 10/07/2013 08:30 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 10/7/13 7:40 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
Hi SCXML developers/community,
We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML
development is, and and/or who
Hi Benedikt,
On 10/07/2013 07:44 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
Hello Ate,
we are going through some discussions at the moment about how we want to
organize development at commons in the future [1].
I'm aware of it as I've been subscribed to this list for several months.
So far only lurking but
On 10/07/2013 08:30 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 10/7/13 7:40 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
Hi SCXML developers/community,
We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML
development is, and and/or who in the community might be
interested in re-activating it.
From the mailing lists and
I don't see any reason why SCXML can't be demoted to the sandbox
since it basically has no community right now. What say you, folks?
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Ate Douma a...@douma.nu wrote:
On 10/07/2013 08:30 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 10/7/13 7:40 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
Hi SCXML
On 10/07/2013 09:52 PM, Juan Antonio Breña Moral wrote:
Hi Great Idea.
In my case I could test software and contribute a bit.
Great to hear!
Are you currently active user of SCXML?
I'd love to hear in what context, what version, etc.
I surely welcome your offer to test and contribute!
On 10/7/13 1:20 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
On 10/07/2013 08:30 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
On 10/7/13 7:40 AM, Ate Douma wrote:
Hi SCXML developers/community,
We are trying to figure out what the status and activity of SCXML
development is, and and/or who in the community might be
interested in
Hi,
I am working with SCXML for HFSM with EV3 Robots.
https://github.com/jabrena/liverobots
I would like to collaborate.
Now, Apache Commons SCXML is running in a ARM9 with good performance.
Cheers
On 10/07/2013 10:23 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
On 10/07/2013 09:52 PM, Juan Antonio Breña Moral
On 10/07/2013 08:14 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote:
Hi,
since we have discussed a lot of different aspects, it may be time to sum
things up a bit (please correct me or add things I've missed):
Release Management - Releases take too long
- Build is overly complex
- dependencies to parent pom seem to
Le 07/10/2013 20:30, Phil Steitz a écrit :
Great. We give sandbox commit to any ASF committer. Reply with
your availIds and we can get that done immediately. Commit to
commons proper requires a little more process, but we can get that
done easily assuming you want to join us as committers.
On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote:
Le 07/10/2013 20:30, Phil Steitz a écrit :
Great. We give sandbox commit to any ASF committer. Reply with
your availIds and we can get that done immediately. Commit to
commons proper requires a little more process,
On 10/07/2013 10:40 PM, Juan Antonio Breña Moral wrote:
Hi,
I am working with SCXML for HFSM with EV3 Robots.
https://github.com/jabrena/liverobots
Very nice!
I would like to collaborate.
Any ideas you have floating, bring them on!
All help is appreciated.
Now, Apache Commons SCXML is
On 10/07/2013 11:59 PM, Phil Steitz wrote:
On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Emmanuel Bourg ebo...@apache.org wrote:
Le 07/10/2013 20:30, Phil Steitz a écrit :
Great. We give sandbox commit to any ASF committer. Reply with
your availIds and we can get that done immediately. Commit to
commons
All,
If we did want to move to Git, we'd probably have to figure out how
we'd manage our workflow (couldn't think of a better word). I
suppose we'd have a separate repo for each component? What about
proper vs. sandbox? How would we accommodate that paradigm? Has
anyone else already gone
Whatever workflow we came up with, if we moved to Git I'd like to see
Gerritt (https://code.google.com/p/gerrit/) used for code review.
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:10 PM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote:
All,
If we did want to move to Git, we'd probably have to figure out how
we'd
Hi
Not sure svn is the issue. What makes quality and which rules are mandatory
is more important IMO.
Following oracle java version (with a single one late - java 6 when java 7
is the current one) is one key i think.
Another one would be to remove project from main sources/proper when nobody
In my experience quality is greatly enhanced by code review. Whatever
we can do to have gerrit-style code review, let's do that IMO.
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
rmannibu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
Not sure svn is the issue. What makes quality and which rules are mandatory
My point was just the quality is not the issue of commons so not the first
thing to do/move
Le 8 oct. 2013 07:05, James Ring s...@jdns.org a écrit :
In my experience quality is greatly enhanced by code review. Whatever
we can do to have gerrit-style code review, let's do that IMO.
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