Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-25 Thread Xeno Amess
>GitHub is basically our interactive pull request interface. If we didn’t have that, I bet we’d be running GitLab ourselves or similar. Yes, that is what I think gitbox lacks. Cannot imagine a git-based website having no convenient pr system... >Also, being that the bar to be a committer here is

Re: [all] When to update dependencies?

2020-07-25 Thread Rob Tompkins
> On Jul 25, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > Exactly. It’s not a general problem, but one specific to various legacy > APIs still commonly used. +1 > >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 14:56 Bernd Eckenfels >> wrote: >> >> It will only cause problems if this is registered as a

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-25 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. 2020-07-25 21:03 UTC+02:00, Alex Herbert : > > >> On 25 Jul 2020, at 19:25, Gilles Sadowski wrote: >> >> Hello. >> >> In the thread[1] from which the below quote is extracted: >>> Would you be willing to provide a PR that deprecates the relevant APIs >>> and >>> points to their equivalent in

Re: [all] When to update dependencies?

2020-07-25 Thread Matt Sicker
Exactly. It’s not a general problem, but one specific to various legacy APIs still commonly used. On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 14:56 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > It will only cause problems if this is registered as a service/spi/driver > like XML, Crypto, JDBC, Authentication and so on. For internal

Re: [all] When to update dependencies?

2020-07-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
When you copy/shade classes then there is no sealing metadata copied, so unless the code verifies how it is packaged, it will not know that it isn't sealed anymore (or to a different package). But I guess it doesn't matter, there are many libraries which can be shaded and many which can't, for

Re: [all] When to update dependencies?

2020-07-25 Thread Gary Gregory
How does this work with sealed jars? Gary On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 15:57 Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > It will only cause problems if this is registered as a service/spi/driver > like XML, Crypto, JDBC, Authentication and so on. For internal libraries > functions which don't have such global state

Re: [all] When to update dependencies?

2020-07-25 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
It will only cause problems if this is registered as a service/spi/driver like XML, Crypto, JDBC, Authentication and so on. For internal libraries functions which don't have such global state it's fine. Gruss Bernd -- http://bernd.eckenfels.net Von: Torsten

Re: [Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-25 Thread Alex Herbert
> On 25 Jul 2020, at 19:25, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > Hello. > > In the thread[1] from which the below quote is extracted: >> Would you be willing to provide a PR that deprecates the relevant APIs and >> points to their equivalent in RNG? It will be more cruft we can trim for >> 4.0,

Re: [all] When to update dependencies?

2020-07-25 Thread Torsten Curdt
> > They’re not the same class and that’s the problem. It’s similar to loading > two versions of the same library in OSGi Let's say you are dealing with org.vafer.Foo the library relocates this as org.apache.commons.compress.internal.org.vafer.Foo The library only deals with

[Lang][All] Drop pseudo-random number utilities?

2020-07-25 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. In the thread[1] from which the below quote is extracted: > Would you be willing to provide a PR that deprecates the relevant APIs and > points to their equivalent in RNG? It will be more cruft we can trim for > 4.0, whenever that happens. Gary mentions that copy/paste is a "coding

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-25 Thread Matt Sicker
GitHub is basically our interactive pull request interface. If we didn’t have that, I bet we’d be running GitLab ourselves or similar. Also, being that the bar to be a committer here is fairly low, getting access to gitbox directly isn’t too difficult. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:17 Xeno Amess

Re: [all] When to update dependencies?

2020-07-25 Thread Matt Sicker
They’re not the same class and that’s the problem. It’s similar to loading two versions of the same library in OSGi and allowing the two classes to get mixed up somehow (fun errors like Foo is not type Foo), typically a bug. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:30 Gilles Sadowski wrote: > Le ven. 24

Re: [all] github (was Re: [VOTE] Create additional mailing lists for automated posts)

2020-07-25 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. Le ven. 24 juil. 2020 à 17:45, Stefan Bodewig a écrit : > > This is an attempt at answering something raised be Gilles in a > different thread. I'm afraid it is getting longer than I > intended. Something seems to need to get out. Sorry. > > On 2020-07-23, Gilles Sadowski wrote: > > > I

Re: [ANNOUCEMENT] Apache Commons Text 1.9

2020-07-25 Thread Rob Tompkins
Applause -Rob > On Jul 25, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > The Apache Commons Team announces the release of Apache Commons Text 1.9. > > This document contains the release notes for the 1.9 version of Apache > Commons Text. > Commons Text is a set of utility functions and reusable

[ANNOUCEMENT] Apache Commons Text 1.9

2020-07-25 Thread Gary Gregory
The Apache Commons Team announces the release of Apache Commons Text 1.9. This document contains the release notes for the 1.9 version of Apache Commons Text. Commons Text is a set of utility functions and reusable components for the purpose of processing and manipulating text that should be of

Re: [crypto] New Release

2020-07-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 8:04 PM Alex Remily wrote: > I'd recommend using MinGW. I installed it through brew on my Mac and cross > compiled the windows build with little difficulty. I expect a similar > experience on Linux. The MinGW install contains all the necessary windows > headers. >

Re: [crypto] New Release

2020-07-25 Thread Gary Gregory
There is a docker Maven plugin: io.fabric8 docker-maven-plugin 0.33.0 Gary On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 00:20 Geoffrey Blake wrote: > Docker would be great. Next question, can that be integrated into > Maven for automating these releases that someone

Re: [crypto] New Release

2020-07-25 Thread Alex Remily
I don't see why it couldn't. I don't think OSX images are publicly accessible in Docker Hub though, and if not we'd need a Mac as the base machine to run the build. From the base machine we should be able to call docker using the Maven exec plugin, use docker to pull in the desired linux arch

Re: [ALL] CI builds

2020-07-25 Thread Olivier Lamy
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 03:49, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > On 2020-07-23, Olivier Lamy wrote: > > > In the Maven project we have plenty of maven-* git repo so we have > created > > a dedicated Jenkins plugin (which is used by other TLP such netbeans) > which > > scan the gitbox server to get repo