Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-29 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 14:19 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Before you read this reply, please read again my original reply. Did you read it, ok then go ahead and please be not offended that your name may not be mentioned here or in the other

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-29 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Thanks everybody for taking the time to respond and giving me a change to re-think and refine my own thoughts on these issues. Here are some comments for a start: - Ignoring of threads (or developments) I'm sorry to say this but I'm simply not able to read everything that's on this list

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Ross Gardler wrote: ... We need to decide how to use Jira to create this ToDo list and then we need to start actually using it. I'd concentrate on the actually doing stuff part (not directed to you Ross, it's a general remark). After having been on vacation, I now see hundreds of mails with

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-29 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Thanks everybody for taking the time to respond and giving me a change to re-think and refine my own thoughts on these issues. Here are some comments for a start: - Ignoring of threads (or developments) I'm sorry to say this but I'm simply not able to read everything

mail lists activity (Was: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk)

2005-08-29 Thread David Crossley
Gav wrote: Can I ask, How many people are subscribed to the dev list? How many of those are regular posters and/or contributors? The answer is for my curiosity, but also may enlighten myself and others as to actually how many people are working on this project, it might have a

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 14:19 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Before you read this reply, please read again my original reply. Did you read it, ok then go ahead and please be not offended that your name may not be mentioned here or in the other thread but you

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-27 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: What I'd like to see in the future: 1 Adjust our development process so that the current development version (I think this is called 'trunk') is always releasable, stable and _well documented_ (meaning complete and correct, not well written

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-27 Thread Tim Williams
On 8/26/05, Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I have an uncomfortable gut feeling with the current status of our pre-release version and I'd like your feedback on these concerns and my suggestions to change our process. My concerns with the current situation:

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-27 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: 5 As a supportive measure, clearly mark threads in this list when they deal with a particular branch +1 so that people not working on that issue can safely ignore it. -1 All PMC members should feel responsible

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-27 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: What I'd like to see in the future: 1 Adjust our development process so that the current development version (I think this is called 'trunk') is always releasable, stable and _well documented_ (meaning complete and correct,

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Tim Williams wrote: On 8/26/05, Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I have an uncomfortable gut feeling with the current status of our pre-release version and I'd like your feedback on these concerns and my suggestions to change our process. My concerns with the

Re: Help with general project issues [was: Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-27 Thread Ross Gardler
Tim Williams wrote: On 8/27/05, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of my time is being taken up with general issues for the Forrest project, so i don't often have the time to help. I wish that other people would help more with that stuff, applying the patches, guiding the new

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Before you read this reply, please read again my original reply. Did you read it, ok then go ahead and please be not offended that your name may not be mentioned here or in the other thread but you actually contributed to views in any form. That is not my intention. I was focusing on code for

[Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-26 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
I have an uncomfortable gut feeling with the current status of our pre-release version and I'd like your feedback on these concerns and my suggestions to change our process. My concerns with the current situation: - in the last few month a number of exciting major projects (location maps,

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-26 Thread br_gavmc
Just to sort of answer one part of this at the moment :- I have an uncomfortable gut feeling with the current status of our pre-release version and I'd like your feedback on these concerns and my suggestions to change our process. My concerns with the current situation: - in the last few

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-26 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I have an uncomfortable gut feeling with the current status of our pre-release version and I'd like your feedback on these concerns and my suggestions to change our process. My concerns with the current situation: - in the last few month a number of exciting major

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-26 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-08-26 at 07:28 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: 5 As a supportive measure, clearly mark threads in this list when they deal with a particular branch +1 so that people not working on that issue can safely ignore it. -1 All PMC members should feel responsible for *all*

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-26 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: 5 As a supportive measure, clearly mark threads in this list when they deal with a particular branch +1 so that people not working on that issue can safely ignore it. -1 All PMC members should feel responsible for *all*