Antonio Gallardo wrote:
Thanks to David for the overview. IMO we should modularize this whole
discusion in different topics. The lenght of the thread scream for
SoC. :-)
Thank to Thorsten that kindly shared with the rest of us (that are not
participating on lenya-dev) the discussion
On 9/3/05, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
addi wrote:
Ok, I am not a PMC member nor committer so ignore/listen as you like.
That makes no difference. You are a community member
and we each listen to each other. By the way, when it
comes time to vote on this topic, then please do:
Tim Williams wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
addi wrote:
Ok, I am not a PMC member nor committer so ignore/listen as you like.
That makes no difference. You are a community member
and we each listen to each other. By the way, when it
comes time to vote on this topic, then please do:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Let's not be driven by fear, but by opportunity... and let's look at
history. Our open access to Cocoon and Lenya has never given us issues.
By the way, Lenya do not currently have access
to our SVN, only Cocoon.
Instead we have gained Antonio and Unico's
On 9/2/05, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Let's not be driven by fear, but by opportunity... and let's look at
history. Our open access to Cocoon and Lenya has never given us issues.
By the way, Lenya do not currently have access
to our SVN, only
Tim Williams wrote:
...
I can only imagine that for an existing committer on
another project, the bar would likely be set pretty low for a
committership offer anyway -- so asking them to add a JIRA issue and
and contribute a patch to determine whether they're truly committed to
forrest or
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 12:44 -0400, Tim Williams wrote:
I don't understand why Lenya for instance, votes me a
committer on their project.
You are *not* a committer to lenya! Nobody voted you in. You have write
access to the code base which is different. IMO the subject is not
reflecting this (I
On 9/2/05, Thorsten Scherler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 12:44 -0400, Tim Williams wrote:
I don't understand why Lenya for instance, votes me a
committer on their project.
You are *not* a committer to lenya! Nobody voted you in. You have write
access to the code base
Tim Williams wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Tim Williams wrote:
I don't understand why Lenya for instance, votes me a
committer on their project.
You are *not* a committer to lenya! Nobody voted you in. You have write
access to the code base which is different. IMO the subject is
Tim Williams wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
Anyway, i just want to ensure that we all, especially
our new PMC members, understand the implications.
This new PMC member doesn't see the value in it as I attempted to
express in my earlier mail on this topic. I don't believe in the
field
On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 10:18 +1000, David Crossley wrote:
...
As i said earlier in this thread, this is not the
normal practise. It is a new experiment between
the Cocoon-based projects.
Not so new after all for lenya/cocoon. I (and all other initial lenya
committer) got 2003 this rights. Every
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
...
As i said earlier in this thread, this is not the
normal practise. It is a new experiment between
the Cocoon-based projects.
Not so new after all for lenya/cocoon. I (and all other initial lenya
committer) got 2003 this rights.
Still
Ok, I am not a PMC member nor committer so ignore/listen as you like. Also if
I seem riled up, please take my general attitude with a grain of salt as
Katrina/lack of response to has gotten me rather upset lately. I do not
mean to offend at all.
On Friday September 02 2005 8:42 pm, David
addi wrote:
Ok, I am not a PMC member nor committer so ignore/listen as you like.
That makes no difference. You are a community member
and we each listen to each other. By the way, when it
comes time to vote on this topic, then please do:
http://forrest.apache.org/guidelines.html#decision
Hi:
Thanks to David for the overview. IMO we should modularize this whole
discusion in different topics. The lenght of the thread scream for
SoC. :-)
Thank to Thorsten that kindly shared with the rest of us (that are not
participating on lenya-dev) the discussion about this topic in the
There have been various discussions about this
topic, some of them on various PMC mailing lists.
There is no need for it to be private, so now it is
in the open. The developer community needs to
understand the background and the related issues.
Private discussions do not enable the community
to be
David Crossley wrote:
...
The main effect that i see is that we would be
opening up the Forrest repository to people that
we do not know and are not familiar with.
Is everyone happy with that.
Yes.
Being Apache committers they should and will behave with all the needed
respect to our
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
...
The main effect that i see is that we would be
opening up the Forrest repository to people that
we do not know and are not familiar with.
Is everyone happy with that.
Yes.
Being Apache committers they should and will behave with
David Crossley wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
...
The main effect that i see is that we would be
opening up the Forrest repository to people that
we do not know and are not familiar with.
Is everyone happy with that.
Yes.
Being Apache committers they should and
David Crossley wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
...
I would propose that commit access is given to all Apache committers; I
don't see why Lenya or Cocoon committers have more merit than any
other at Apache.
I would like to remind all that Gump has the same pattern of access, and
nobody screwed
Since I've learned most of what I know from reading words from you
guys, it surprises me that I come to a different conclusion.
As I understand it, committership is based on merit and one earns
merit only *after* consistently making good contributions
demonstrating that they've earned it.
I
Tim Williams wrote:
...
So are we now saying that merit applies across the ASF?
In a sense, WRT trust, IMO, yes.
That just
doesn't make sense to me given the diversity of projects here. I mean
my own interpretation is that there are two parts to merit: 1)
Technical and 2)
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Tim Williams wrote:
...
So are we now saying that merit applies across the ASF?
In a sense, WRT trust, IMO, yes.
+1, with respect to trust. If someone in Apache trusts them, that is
good enough for me.
With respect to having the *technical* skills to
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