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2002-05-16 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
flood STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2002/01/17 01:09:45 $] Release: milestone-04: In development milestone-03: Tagged January 16, 2002 ASF-transfer: Released July 17, 2001 milestone-02: Tagged August 13, 2001

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/ssl mod_ssl.c mod_ssl.h ssl_engine_config.c ssl_engine_init.c ssl_engine_io.c ssl_engine_kernel.c ssl_engine_log.c

2002-05-16 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 11:14:01PM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: The only thing I wonder is whether SSLLog and SSLLogLevel should be marked as deprecated (via ap_set_deprecated) or whether we should silently ignore these directives. Thoughts? -- justin I would be strongly opposed to

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/ssl mod_ssl.c mod_ssl.h ssl_engine_config.c ssl_engine_init.c ssl_engine_io.c ssl_engine_kernel.c ssl_engine_log.c

2002-05-16 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 11:19:50PM -0700, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 11:14:01PM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: The only thing I wonder is whether SSLLog and SSLLogLevel should be marked as deprecated (via ap_set_deprecated) or whether we should silently ignore these

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/ssl mod_ssl.c mod_ssl.h ssl_engine_init.c ssl_engine_io.c ssl_engine_kernel.c ssl_engine_log.c ssl_engine_pphrase.c

2002-05-16 Thread Ben Laurie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jerenkrantz02/05/15 16:10:34 Modified:modules/ssl mod_ssl.c mod_ssl.h ssl_engine_init.c ssl_engine_io.c ssl_engine_kernel.c ssl_engine_log.c ssl_engine_pphrase.c Log: Stop using SSL_ADD_SSLERR option

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/ssl mod_ssl.c ssl_engine_init.c ssl_engine_io.c ssl_engine_kernel.c ssl_engine_mutex.c ssl_engine_pphrase.c ssl_engine_rand.c ssl_scache.c ssl_scache_dbm.c ssl_scache_shmcb.c ssl_scache_shmht.c

2002-05-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 05:17:11AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... SSL_LOG_TRACE and SSL_LOG_DEBUG were mapped to the APLOG_DEBUG values. mod_ssl prints out a LOT of debugging information, so mod_ssl with LogLevel Debug may not be a good idea - perhaps mod_ssl should be less chatty.

New full log format definition

2002-05-16 Thread Leonid Antonenkov
Hello all! There are a lot of programs, which analyze access log files and generates statistics reports. Current most detailed log format (combined) doesn't contain some interesting fields (which may be analyzed by such systems). Yes, developers of these systems may ask users to define custom

APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Jeff Trawick
We never do anything with errno in our logging functions. We can figure out whether or not there is an apr_status_t to deal with by comparing the appropriate parameter with 0/APR_SUCCESS only, with no regard to APLOG_NOERRNO. APLOG_NOERRNO made sense before because errno wasn't an explicit

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/ssl mod_ssl.c mod_ssl.h ssl_engine_init.c ssl_engine_io.c ssl_engine_kernel.c ssl_engine_log.c ssl_engine_pphrase.c

2002-05-16 Thread Jeff Trawick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jerenkrantz02/05/15 16:10:34 Modified:modules/ssl mod_ssl.c mod_ssl.h ssl_engine_init.c ssl_engine_io.c ssl_engine_kernel.c ssl_engine_log.c ssl_engine_pphrase.c great stuff... I'm glad I went to bed

Re: PROPOSAL: Release 1.3.25

2002-05-16 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 11:00:42AM +0200, Sander Striker wrote: Pardon? I would have thought that 2.0 is a leap forward in the portability department. Care to explain? Fpr example, did you ever try and build httpd-2.0 on a machine where the compiler does NOT support long long and

Fields delimiter in new full log format

2002-05-16 Thread Leonid Antonenkov
Hello all! Leonid Antonenkov wrote: I think it will be better to define _standard_ full log format About fields delimiter in new full format: In combined log format all fields separated with space character. Some of fields (for example, %r - first line of request) may contain space symbol, so

[PATCH] 1.3 cygwin: adding Cygwin layout style

2002-05-16 Thread Stipe Tolj
Hi list, attached is a patch used within our Cygwin net distro binary package. I'd like to add this to cvs in order for future support. Changes: * config.layout: added Cygwin specific layout definitions Stipe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PATCH] resubmission of TPF specific changes for syslog flags

2002-05-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
Thanks for the patch. I'll give it a look-over, but my initial impression is that I see no problem with folding this in. -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ A society that

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Greg Ames
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I know that libtool can (supposedly) relink binaries to change the link paths. Could that be something we could do? I don't think that libtool has any magic that will produce a major breakthrough here. I played around with it back when binbuild was totally

Re: Fields delimiter in new full log format

2002-05-16 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 03:50:39PM +0400, Leonid Antonenkov wrote: Not the best, but, I think, better than current solution is to define long delimiter with rare characters (for example ' |:| ') Format string will be like this: LogFormat %h |:| %l |:| %u |:| %t |:| %r |:| %s |:| %b |:|

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Joshua Slive
On 16 May 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: Who would be in favor of this, or parts thereof? I'm anxious to see a consensus so that steps toward the goal can be filled in over time. +1 That looks good to me. Really, I have no particular problem with httpd being the wrapper script, but it would

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Greg Ames
Joshua Slive wrote: On 16 May 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: Who would be in favor of this, or parts thereof? I'm anxious to see a consensus so that steps toward the goal can be filled in over time. +1 That looks good to me. Really, I have no particular problem with httpd being the

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 06:38:14AM -0400, Jeff Trawick wrote: We never do anything with errno in our logging functions. ... No sleep would be lost here over that feature. I tend to agree that the feature is useless (an artifact of the old logging interface, as you point out), but at this point

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Brian Pane
Jeff Trawick wrote: We never do anything with errno in our logging functions. We can figure out whether or not there is an apr_status_t to deal with by comparing the appropriate parameter with 0/APR_SUCCESS only, with no regard to APLOG_NOERRNO. APLOG_NOERRNO made sense before because errno

RE: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Ryan Bloom
My own opinion is that we leave things exactly as they are today. If you are running the binary by hand, you are taking some responsibility for knowing what you are doing. That means having the environment variables setup correctly before you start. If you don't want that responsibility, use

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Greg Ames
Joshua Slive wrote: On 16 May 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: Who would be in favor of this, or parts thereof? I'm anxious to see a consensus so that steps toward the goal can be filled in over time. +1 That looks good to me. Really, I have no particular problem with httpd being the

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Brian Pane
Brian Pane wrote: Jeff Trawick wrote: We never do anything with errno in our logging functions. We can figure out whether or not there is an apr_status_t to deal with by comparing the appropriate parameter with 0/APR_SUCCESS only, with no regard to APLOG_NOERRNO. APLOG_NOERRNO made

RE: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Joshua Slive
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Ryan Bloom wrote: My own opinion is that we leave things exactly as they are today. If you are running the binary by hand, you are taking some responsibility for knowing what you are doing. That means having the environment variables setup correctly before you start.

RE: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Jeroen Massar
Jeff Trawick wrote: Who would be in favor of this, or parts thereof? I'm anxious to see a consensus so that steps toward the goal can be filled in over time. 1) httpd can't be used directly on Unix because of environment variable settings SNIP Due to inheritance (export) of

RE: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
My own opinion is that we leave things exactly as they are today. If you are running the binary by hand, you are taking some responsibility for knowing what you are doing. That means having the environment variables setup correctly before you start. If you don't want that

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Jeff Trawick
Aaron Bannert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 06:38:14AM -0400, Jeff Trawick wrote: We never do anything with errno in our logging functions. ... No sleep would be lost here over that feature. I tend to agree that the feature is useless (an artifact of the old logging

Nasty configure behaviour

2002-05-16 Thread Brian Havard
I've run into this on both OS/2 linux now. If you have apache2 installed in /usr/local/apache2 or the apache2/bin directory is PATHed, the APR_FIND_APR autoconf macro finds that in preference to the version in srclib/apr. If the former is an old version Apache's build fails. I had 2.0.36

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Jeff Trawick
Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My own opinion is that we leave things exactly as they are today. If you are running the binary by hand, you are taking some responsibility for knowing what you are doing. That means having the environment variables setup correctly before you start.

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Aaron Bannert
I'd recommend that we keep the constant for now so that everybody's code compiles, document it as useless and deprecated, stop using it in our code so we don't set a bad example, and remove it with the next big API change (2.1?). +1 Time to start the laundry list of things we need to do as

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Jeff Trawick
Brian Pane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My vote presumes, by the way, that the removal is really a backward-compatible deprecation: * re#define APLOG_NOERRNO to zero for source compatibility * mask out the bit that used to be APLOG_NOERRNO within ap_log_*error() for binary

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 11:37:26AM -0400, Jeff Trawick wrote: I wouldn't remove APLOG_NOERRNO within the same release. Most MMN bumps don't require a source code change for any particular module. I don't see a compelling reason to make modules remove the symbol from their code until there is

[Patch] Add check for valid file to htpasswd

2002-05-16 Thread Thom May
As the topic. My ultimate (ie, next week) aim is to apr-ise htpasswd fully, unless there is a reason this wasn't done originally? Cheers -Thom -- Thom May - [EMAIL PROTECTED] We shall not make Britain's mistakes. Too wise to try to rule the world, we shall merely own it. --Ludwell Denny

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Jeff Trawick
Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 11:37:26AM -0400, Jeff Trawick wrote: I wouldn't remove APLOG_NOERRNO within the same release. Most MMN bumps don't require a source code change for any particular module. I don't see a compelling reason to make modules

Re: [Patch] Add check for valid file to htpasswd

2002-05-16 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Thom May wrote: As the topic. My ultimate (ie, next week) aim is to apr-ise htpasswd fully, unless there is a reason this wasn't done originally? Haven't had a chance to extensively look at this, but two quick comments: no tabs please, and yes htpasswd should be APRized.

Win32 Build Failure

2002-05-16 Thread Jerry Baker
Configuration: ApacheMonitor - Win32 Release Linking... ApacheMonitor.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol __imp__CoUninitialize@0 ApacheMonitor.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol __imp__CoInitialize@4 Release/ApacheMonitor.exe :

Re: [Patch] Add check for valid file to htpasswd

2002-05-16 Thread Thom May
* Cliff Woolley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : On Thu, 16 May 2002, Thom May wrote: As the topic. My ultimate (ie, next week) aim is to apr-ise htpasswd fully, unless there is a reason this wasn't done originally? Haven't had a chance to extensively look at this, but two quick comments:

Re: [PATCH] 1.3 cygwin: new htdocs/manual/cygwin.html

2002-05-16 Thread Martin Kraemer
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 02:24:15PM +0200, Stipe Tolj wrote: attached is an update manual html page specific for the Cygwin platform. Please review and add this to the current cvs tree. Both committed. Thanks. Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Fujitsu Siemens Fon:

RE: output filters on 3XX redirects

2002-05-16 Thread Ryan Bloom
From: Sander van Zoest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi, I am looking to call an output filter on 3XX status codes. But I am not seeing my output filter being called on those types of requests. Do 3XX shortcut the filter chain? Yes, 3XX error pages remove all output filters. I do not

Re: Removing rewritelog?

2002-05-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Anyone think we should remove RewriteLog/RewriteLogLevel while we're at it? -- justin I don't think so... it's useful for debugging, especially with complex conditions and patterns. When that happens, it's best for it to be self contained and controlled :) --

[PATCH] 1.3.X mod_headers: New Directive ErrorHeader

2002-05-16 Thread Sander van Zoest
It is common practice to set Cookie's to pass along on HTTP redirects for login authentication. When implementing P3P http://www.w3.org/P3P/ using mod_headers.c the Header directive only sets r-headers_out and does not pass the headers along for non-2XX responses such as error pages and

question about cvs doc trees

2002-05-16 Thread David McCreedy
I'm trying to understand where the docs live so I can update them properly. Using install-tpf.html for the example... I'm guessing that httpd-docs-1.3/htdocs/manual/install-tpf.html is what shows up on the Apache website. And that apache-1.3/htdocs/manual/install-tpf.html is what shows up in

[Patch] DeTabbify htpasswd.c

2002-05-16 Thread Thom May
I guess not much needs saying. -- Thom May - [EMAIL PROTECTED] We shall not make Britain's mistakes. Too wise to try to rule the world, we shall merely own it. --Ludwell Denny Index: htpasswd.c === RCS file:

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Jeff Trawick
Cliff Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3) apachectl becomes a simple wrapper script for httpd You could do both 2 and 3 I suppose, but ... nah. #2 is enough to remove the complexity from apachectl. Step 3 is what removes the complexity from apachectl. Step 2 is what gives httpd the

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Cliff Woolley
On 16 May 2002, Jeff Trawick wrote: Step 3 is what removes the complexity from apachectl. Step 2 is what gives httpd the features required for step 3. I guess I don't see: start) stop) graceful) restart) httpd -k $1 ;; startssl) httpd -DSSL -k start ;;

[Patch] Add sanity checking to htpassd (Was Re: [Patch] DeTabbify htpasswd.c)

2002-05-16 Thread Thom May
Ok, so now a new sanity check, hopefully sans tabs. -Thom -- Thom May - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Buffy: We have a marching jazz band? Oz: Yeah, but, you know, since the best jazz is improvisational, we'd be going off in all directions, banging into floats... scary. --- htpasswd.c.orig Thu May

Re: [Patch] Add sanity checking to htpassd (Was Re: [Patch] DeTabbify htpasswd.c)

2002-05-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
+1 here, I'm only confused by why you needed the extra strcpy(tmp, line); which doesn't seem to be necessary. At 02:49 PM 5/16/2002, you wrote: Ok, so now a new sanity check, hopefully sans tabs. -Thom -- Thom May - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Buffy: We have a marching jazz band? Oz: Yeah, but, you know,

Re: APLOG_NOERRNO useless

2002-05-16 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 08:11:03AM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: ... My vote presumes, by the way, that the removal is really a backward-compatible deprecation: * re#define APLOG_NOERRNO to zero for source compatibility * mask out the bit that used to be APLOG_NOERRNO within

Re: PROPOSAL: Release 1.3.25

2002-05-16 Thread Greg Stein
Do you have patches or solutions to these problems? Obviously, it is nobody's intent to say only with gcc. It would be quite silly to think that's the position. But you raise a good point: we pretty much depend on 'long long' being available nowadays. Do we have a list of compilers that don't

RE: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Scott Hess
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Joshua Slive wrote: On Thu, 16 May 2002, Ryan Bloom wrote: My own opinion is that we leave things exactly as they are today. If you are running the binary by hand, you are taking some responsibility for knowing what you are doing. That means having the environment

Re: Nasty configure behaviour

2002-05-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 01:09:55AM +1000, Brian Havard wrote: I've run into this on both OS/2 linux now. If you have apache2 installed in /usr/local/apache2 or the apache2/bin directory is PATHed, the APR_FIND_APR autoconf macro finds that in preference to the version in srclib/apr. If the

Re: An unusual request [PATCH] mod_autoindex

2002-05-16 Thread Francis Daly
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 09:40:56PM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Wed, 15 May 2002, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I think this is a good direction. What about IndexResults [with a default of 2xx/3xx]? Shorthand would be #xx for a group [so you could include 2xx 3xx 4xx], or explicit

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Andrew Ho
Hello, JMDue to inheritance (export) of environment variables I usually start JMApache after doing a: JM# for i in `export | cut -f3 -d' '|cut -f1 -d'='`; do export -n $i; done JMWhich cleans them all up nicely. One reason for doing this is so that JMphpinfo() shows all these nice Enviroment

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Manoj Kasichainula
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 12:49:46PM -0701, Jos Backus wrote: What about moving into the other direction and moving the process management portion into a separate set of tools so it can be used with other daemons besides httpd? I've pondered writing something like this, but then I also ponder

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Manoj Kasichainula
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 05:00:13PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote: Due to inheritance (export) of environment variables I usually start Apache after doing a: # for i in `export | cut -f3 -d' '|cut -f1 -d'='`; do export -n $i; done Which cleans them all up nicely. You can also do this by running

Re: is httpd a valid way to start Apache?

2002-05-16 Thread Jos Backus
On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 07:27:46PM -0700, Manoj Kasichainula wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 12:49:46PM -0701, Jos Backus wrote: It would be great to have a BSD-licensed version of something like djb's daemontools. I've (mostly) written replacements for supervise, setuidgid, and

[PATCH] Implement -k option for httpd

2002-05-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
Here's a starting point for someone else to pick up how to get httpd to honor -k [start|stop|graceful|restart] options. I'm not going to finish it because: a) I'm not really sure what to do on Win32. b) What happens if an MPM decides it doesn't use a PID? (Perhaps this code needs to get