RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Tim Blair
Makes sense, but what is the correct way? What should a PURE fusecoder do? No idea about a *pure* fusecoder, but... Depends what you're trying to do. If it's just a single qry fuse or similar then you could set up a separate include directory, point to it in the fbx_Settings.cfm file (e.g.

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Ellwood
Right. The concensus is then, that we have a globals directory. That is the way I have been going anyway but just wanted to check out the combined brain power of this list ;-) -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 09:27 To: [EMAIL

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnston
Right. The concensus is then, that we have a globals directory. That is the way I have been going anyway but just wanted to check out the combined brain power of this list I would suggest that this isn't a good idea. The whole point of fusebox is that you can effectively drag and drop

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Ellwood
True, I hadn't thought of that. If I wish to drag my circuit to another application then it will fail because of the globals being missing. This is why I asked the question in the first place. Thanks for your valuable input I will rethink my strategy. Although I am currently wondering if there

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Kola Oyedeji
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 10:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? cfmodule template=...whatever the request.self is... checkloggedin=#session.user# etc... Half asleep... Should read: cfmodule template=...whatever the request.self

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Adam Reynolds
will not impact other fuses. Adam -Original Message- From: Ellwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 10:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? True, I hadn't thought of that. If I wish to drag my circuit to another application

Re: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Damian Watson
aarrr my brain's fused I thought fusebox was meant to be simple ;0) - Original Message - From: Adam Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? I've actually found that globals

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Stephen Pope
guess hehe :¬) /me awaits the flames Stephen -Original Message- From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 10:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? aarrr my brain's fused I thought fusebox was meant to be simple ;0

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Fennell
It does have some good ideas But boy is it over kill -Original Message- From: Stephen Pope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 11:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? I'm curious just how many people on this list use fusebox

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Kevin Faulkner
11:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? I'm curious just how many people on this list use fusebox ? Personally I hate the thing, I like the ideas involved and but I prefer to adapt the methodology to my own code in my own way. I'm not having a go at fusebox

[ cf-dev ] Why Fusebox? WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnston
or others) 3) Easily Maintainable 4) Working!!! (very important!) Just my 2p! Paul -Original Message- From: Stephen Pope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 11:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? I'm curious just how many

Re: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Robin Griffiths
CF initially. Just being curious I guess hehe :¬) /me awaits the flames Stephen -Original Message- From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 10:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? aarrr my

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Ellwood
of methodologies. Confession time: I also pick the choice bits and ignore some of the more arcane stuff! - Original Message - From: Stephen Pope To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? I'm curious just

Re: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Stephen Moretti
being curious I guess hehe :¬) /me awaits the flames Stephen -Original Message- From: Damian Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 10:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? aarrr my brain's fused I thought fusebox

Re: [ cf-dev ] MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Damian Watson
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? I think the good thing is that it shows all the levels of the methodology and how you can implement its in a simple or complex form depending on the scale of the project .. and you can say 'hey I wanna get off

Re: [ cf-dev ] where to now WAS MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Damian Watson
: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? PS Fusebox people smell like tramps wee.. dammit its started! Well that's what happens if you stay in a box all day, you start smelling. Ask David Blaine. *duck

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Adam Reynolds
] Sent: 24 October 2003 11:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? It does have some good ideas But boy is it over kill -Original Message- From: Stephen Pope [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 11:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

RE: [ cf-dev ] where to now WAS MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Adam Reynolds
:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] where to now WAS MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? On a more serious note, whatever the preferences it does seem that everyone is agreed with the fact that methodologies are a good idea. I'm interested to know

RE: [ cf-dev ] where to now WAS MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Paul Johnston
The thing is, that we all use some form of methodology based on CF... Try imagine what would happen if there was no web framework software to build around (and yes I do realise that this happened about 10 years ago). We have n-tier models of applications and we have different layers that we

RE: [ cf-dev ] where to now WAS MVC/Methodologies WAS RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Duncan Fenton
Even before (if ever) we reach the nirvana of an obviously best practice, including the scalability and 'get off at any floor' factors, there is another social factor at work besides 'let's rip it off'. That is the attempt to 'make programming simple'. It isn't, and never will be, period.

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Paolo Piponi
Fusebox evangelists are control freaks who just like the sound of their own voice. Take what you want from the fusebox method and ditch what looks stupid (it probably is). Just make sure you do something methodical and make some sort of documentation of the structure. Paolo -- ** Archive:

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Adam Reynolds
all about working with the same mindset. Adam -Original Message- From: Paolo Piponi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October 2003 15:33 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? Fusebox evangelists are control freaks who just like the sound

RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-24 Thread Paolo Piponi
2003 15:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? Erm, And there I was thinking it had more to do with the fact that other developers using fusebox would be able to contribute to your development process and would be working with a similar mindset. Why

[ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-23 Thread Ellwood
Fusebox is a fantastic methodology. It makes developing sites quick and almost painless. BUT!!! Should I be careful of falling into the INCLUDE trap. Its great to have includes that you can code once and use anywhere. In fusebox this can be a problem if you have several circuits that share one of

Re: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list?

2003-10-23 Thread Damian Watson
: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: [ cf-dev ] Any fusecoders on the list? Fusebox is a fantastic methodology. It makes developing sites quick and almost painless. BUT!!! Should I be careful of falling into the INCLUDE trap. Its great to have includes that you can code once and use anywhere