Re: ranges and cascading releases was: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-21 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Technically I'd get away with updating 2-3 artifacts, but I'd end up writing a cookbook on how to add a crapload of dependencies to the plugins in question and answering on the mailing list and irc, and in the end we'd have a ton of poms lying around with 3 overridden dependencies in 4-5

Re: ranges and cascading releases was: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-21 Thread Benson Margulies
I'm with Kristian, as if he needs any help here. We aren't anywhere near where we'd have to be to feel confident that a release of some component was guaranteed regression-free in all obscure cases. One small thought: if people would mark their votes 'binding' or 'nonbinding', it would reduce

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Den 19.06.2011 23:08, skrev Gavin McDonald: I would be happy with weeks to be honest. Then again I have been used to being around slower projects that have released only every 2 or 3 years once 1 or 2 hundred issues have been gathered into a release. And the release process itself takes

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Theussl Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 7:25 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 20 June 2011 10:48, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: -Original Message- From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Theussl Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 7:25 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 9:00 PM To: Maven Developers List Cc: ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin, When you sent your message containing the words

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
Cc: ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin, When you sent your message containing the words, ignore me, I was planning to take you at your word. But since you seem to have continued to continue your campaign of sneer here I guess I'll respond. 1

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
wrote: -Original Message- From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas Theussl Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 7:25 PM To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Benson

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Lukas Theussl
Gavin McDonald wrote: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2011 9:00 PM To: Maven Developers List Cc: ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Gavin, When you sent your message containing

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Derricutt
Wow - that seems like a hell of a lot of releases having to be made... This post is probably drifting off topic but the thing that strikes me here is that this is the exact reason why maven supports version ranges - so that you don't have to make a plethora of rolling releases just because one

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Struberg
in the same maven build. LieGrue, strub --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com wrote: From: Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 8:27 PM Wow - that seems like

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Derricutt
Derricutt m...@talios.com wrote: From: Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 8:27 PM Wow - that seems like a hell of a lot of releases having to be made

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Benson Margulies
(or any other dependency) being used in the same maven build. LieGrue, strub --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com wrote: From: Mark Derricutt m...@talios.com Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Date: Monday

Re: ranges and cascading releases was: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-20 Thread Brett Porter
Kristian can describe in more detail what he's working on, but not all changes take 8 artifact changes. In this case I think it's both that it's something that affects multiple things (rather than dependencies), and also a couple of things that have been broken down to one too separate many

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really? You'd release

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really? You'd release a product after

Re: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues? Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more. Don’t release for the sake of releasing. Gav... +-0 non

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Derricutt
, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.auwrote: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi

Re: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really? You'd release a product

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues? Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait for more. Don’t release for the sake of releasing. Gav... +-0 non-binding http

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really? You'd release a product after solving 3

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Dennis Lundberg
it. Kristian sø., 19.06.2011 kl. 18.34 +1000, skrev Gavin McDonald: -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes

Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Benson Margulies
] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 6:08 AM To: Maven Developers List; Maven Project Management Committee List Subject: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Hi, We solved 3 issues: Really? You'd release a product after solving 3 issues? Having looked at those 3 issues I believe it can wait

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Kristian Rosenvold [mailto:kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 7:50 PM To: 'Maven Developers List' Subject: RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 Dont know if we're looking at the same jira; I see 10 issues being resolved

RE: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-19 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Mark Derricutt [mailto:m...@talios.com] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2011 9:37 PM To: Maven Developers List; ga...@16degrees.com.au Subject: Re: [VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6 I'd rather see a release with 3 bug fixes if they code base is idle than see

[VOTE]: release maven-changes-plugin 2.6

2011-06-18 Thread Benson Margulies
Hi, We solved 3 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MCHANGES/fixforversion/17375 There are plenty of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truejqlQuery=project+%3D+MCHANGES+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DESCmode=hide Staging repo: