Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-10-03 Thread Peter Kovacs
+1 :) Keith N. McKenna schrieb am Mo., 3. Okt. 2016, 18:09: > Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > >> There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release > >> manager to decide on

Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-10-03 Thread Marcus
Am 09/30/2016 07:15 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote: There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release manager to decide on them. If nobody steps in, and/or nobody has any

Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/30/2016 10:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote: There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release manager to decide on them. If nobody steps in, and/or nobody has any objection,

Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote: There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release manager to decide on them. If nobody steps in, and/or nobody has any objection, you can count with me. I would be very happy

Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-30 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 03:58:11PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release > manager to decide on them. If nobody steps in, and/or nobody has any objection, you can count with me. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile signature.asc

[DISCUSS] 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
There are now release blocker requests for 4.1.4, so we need a release manager to decide on them. I am reluctant to be release manager for 4.1.4, because I will have limited Internet access, and no access to my home computers, from December 15th to January 8th. I will be packing immediately

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-19 Thread Peter Kovacs
I do not know. How much time there is for one to do. I have to ask people. Marcus schrieb am Mo., 19. Sep. 2016, 19:36: > Am 09/19/2016 08:27 AM, schrieb Peter Kovacs: > > The idea for the Phönix Motiv is ment as a statement. And IMHO has most > > drama on 4.1.3 release. >

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-19 Thread Marcus
Am 09/19/2016 08:27 AM, schrieb Peter Kovacs: The idea for the Phönix Motiv is ment as a statement. And IMHO has most drama on 4.1.3 release. Today Xing (Germans linkid social media ) posted the article from ZDF.de (Germans 2nd state TV station) about the upcoming death of open office.

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-19 Thread Peter Kovacs
The idea for the Phönix Motiv is ment as a statement. And IMHO has most drama on 4.1.3 release. Today Xing (Germans linkid social media ) posted the article from ZDF.de (Germans 2nd state TV station) about the upcoming death of open office. Referring Dennis email about the idea of retirement for

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/18/2016 12:14 AM, Marcus wrote: Am 09/18/2016 07:45 AM, schrieb Peter Kovacs: Hmm, does anyone know an artist that has some time and can draw a splash screen? I would love to see the next edition Called 4.1.3 Phoenix addition, And I would love to see a Splashscreen that shows an Phönix

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-18 Thread Marcus
Am 09/18/2016 07:45 AM, schrieb Peter Kovacs: Hmm, does anyone know an artist that has some time and can draw a splash screen? I would love to see the next edition Called 4.1.3 Phoenix addition, And I would love to see a Splashscreen that shows an Phönix carry the AOOo Logo upward. That would

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-17 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hmm, does anyone know an artist that has some time and can draw a splash screen? I would love to see the next edition Called 4.1.3 Phoenix addition, And I would love to see a Splashscreen that shows an Phönix carry the AOOo Logo upward. That would make a statement. Actually thinking of it, if

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-16 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > > (b) > > Or you choose a more formal type of label them. > > OK, "AOO XP" would probably not so great, but what would > be, for example, with > > "AOO NE" (for new experience)? > > From the view point of a normal user I find it confusing as >

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-16 Thread Marcus
Am 09/16/2016 02:07 PM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] Any real reason to name it 4.2.0 ? Two years of miscellaneous changes and fixes, a radically improved build system, unit tests at build time, updates of a lot of libraries, support for new

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-16 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] > What's about AOO 42? ;-) indeed, that would be an interesting play on words Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-16 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] > >> Any real reason to name it 4.2.0 ? > > > > Two years of miscellaneous changes and fixes, a radically > improved build system, unit tests at build time, updates of a > lot of libraries, support for new languages, new > translations, new

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-16 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 16.09.2016 um 13:19 schrieb Jim Jagielski: >> Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> Any real reason to name it 4.2.0 ? >> >> Two years of miscellaneous changes and fixes, a radically improved build >> system, unit tests at build time, updates of a lot of libraries, support for >> new languages, new

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Jim Jagielski wrote: >> Any real reason to name it 4.2.0 ? > > Two years of miscellaneous changes and fixes, a radically improved build > system, unit tests at build time, updates of a lot of libraries, support for

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:14:33PM +0200, Marcus wrote: > Am 09/15/2016 05:44 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: > >I am rather amazed by the idea of 4.1.4, shouldn't we release > >4.2.0 instead? I mean ... > > > >- I thought the idea behind 4.1.3 was to make a quick fix for > >4.1.2 and to give more time

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jim Jagielski wrote: Any real reason to name it 4.2.0 ? Two years of miscellaneous changes and fixes, a radically improved build system, unit tests at build time, updates of a lot of libraries, support for new languages, new translations, new dictionaries... if this is not 4.2.0 it should

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Marcus
Am 09/15/2016 09:30 PM, schrieb Jim Jagielski: Any real reason to name it 4.2.0 ? as I don't know what your intention of this short sentence is, I feel that also short answer like "Yes, of course" is maybe not helping. ;-) The only alternative would be 5.0. Sure, we have many code changes

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Marcus
Am 09/15/2016 09:59 PM, schrieb Jorg Schmidt: From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:05 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager? The strategy behind 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 is this:. (1) Quick releases of important bug fixes

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 9/15/2016 12:59 PM, Jorg Schmidt wrote: From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:05 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager? The strategy behind 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 is this:. (1) Quick releases of important bug fixes

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Jorg Schmidt
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:05 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager? > > The strategy behind 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 is this:. > > (1) Quick releases of important bug fixes especiall

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I believe we should always have a point release, based on the last fully stable and released version, ready for code check-in: Release manager identified, branch created, release-blocker flags created. That shortens the latency from identifying an urgent fix to having the fix in our users'

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Jim Jagielski
Any real reason to name it 4.2.0 ? > On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > > I like this idea... 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 in the near-term, and then 4.2.0 in > early 2017. Feels like a good rhythm to aim for. > > Phil > > On Sep 15, 2016 15:14, "Marcus"

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Phillip Rhodes
I like this idea... 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 in the near-term, and then 4.2.0 in early 2017. Feels like a good rhythm to aim for. Phil On Sep 15, 2016 15:14, "Marcus" wrote: > Am 09/15/2016 05:44 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: > >> I am rather amazed by the idea of 4.1.4, shouldn't

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Dave Fisher
The strategy behind 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 is this:. (1) Quick releases of important bug fixes especially related to security. (2) quickly building release manager skills. We became overly dependent on people who are no longer with us. (3) establishing a regular cadence. If you both want to work

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Marcus
Am 09/15/2016 05:44 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: I am rather amazed by the idea of 4.1.4, shouldn't we release 4.2.0 instead? I mean ... - I thought the idea behind 4.1.3 was to make a quick fix for 4.1.2 and to give more time for the 4.2.0 release process. - the code in trunk has over two years

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 On 9/15/2016 12:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: The strategy behind 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 is this:. (1) Quick releases of important bug fixes especially related to security. (2) quickly building release manager skills. We became overly dependent on people who are no longer with us. (3) establishing a

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi Patricia; > > I am rather amazed by the idea of 4.1.4, shouldn't we release > 4.2.0 instead? I mean ... +1. We absolutely should. - To unsubscribe,

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Patricia; I am rather amazed by the idea of 4.1.4, shouldn't we release 4.2.0 instead? I mean ... - I thought the idea behind 4.1.3 was to make a quick fix for 4.1.2 and to give more time for the 4.2.0 release process. - the code in trunk has over two years of development and is more

4.1.4 Release Manager?

2016-09-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Any volunteers for 4.1.4 Release Manager? It would be better to have someone else do it: Cross-training - part of our troubles may have been due to depending on one or two people for particular roles. Distraction - I need to keep my focus on pushing 4.1.3 out as soon as possible. Schedule