Re: Other build ideas

2018-10-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
At first glance it looks like it wants what we want, but on second glance it describes the removal of UNO from OpenOffice, and divide the Monolithic package we have into 3 packages along the layers. I think it is what Libre Office has already done. But for sure it will give hints on the issues

Re: Other build ideas (was: Re: Windows Build Environment futures

2018-10-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 8:45 PM George Karalis wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Hi, welcome :) > Since am new to the project and working on understanding the build process > this past > week, I agree with Damjan that the build system needs that overhaul. I > also agree that > a MSVC upgrade and a

Re: Other build ideas

2018-10-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Those links are in the wrong category then. They refer to OOo not the ODF Toolkit. On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 3:54 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 5, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > > > The links you are looking for are: > >

Re: Other build ideas

2018-10-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 5, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > The links you are looking for are: > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF_Toolkit/Efforts/OOo_without_URE > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF_Toolkit/Efforts/Three-Layer_OOo ODF Toolkit is still in the

Re: Other build ideas

2018-10-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
The links you are looking for are: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF_Toolkit/Efforts/OOo_without_URE https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF_Toolkit/Efforts/Three-Layer_OOo Let's leave the split for now. It's not going to help us directly. On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 11:59 PM Peter Kovacs wrote: >

Re: Other build ideas

2018-10-05 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hi all, I am a bit skeptical about the 2 Layer approach. OpenOffice has been designed in a 3 Layer Architecture. This can be seen here. https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/File:ArchOverview.jpg As this documentation states the Lower Layer does not only consists of the UNO Group but also of

Re: Other build ideas (was: Re: Windows Build Environment futures

2018-10-05 Thread George Karalis
Hello everyone, Since am new to the project and working on understanding the build process this past week, I agree with Damjan that the build system needs that overhaul. I also agree that a MSVC upgrade and a 64-bit windows build, is of high priority. Changing the build system will take

Re: Other build ideas (was: Re: Windows Build Environment futures

2018-10-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
The split wouldn't help us with newer MSVC as such. What would help us there a lot, is SCons, as SCons supports many MSVC versions already, including MSVC 2017. It would be so wonderful if we were on SCons already: not only would we build with a wider range of MSVC versions, but we would need

Re: Other build ideas (was: Re: Windows Build Environment futures

2018-10-05 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hi Damjan, I o not understand the MSVC part. If we separate UNO it's own world. (Independent of the Idea to spin it of into its own project) will the update of the MSVC be easier? All the best Peter On 10/5/18 10:15 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Hi I now have a few other ideas regarding

Other build ideas (was: Re: Windows Build Environment futures (was: Open Office Contribution))

2018-10-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi I now have a few other ideas regarding the building story. The gbuild migration has been extraordinarily long and painful. Sadly I've had to learn so much about gbuild, and implement so many new features in it (symlinks, UNO IDL, Ant, bison, flex, now assembly...), that I am getting good at