Re: New Committer: Arrigo Marchiori

[Arrigo Marchiori]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 10:19:19PM +0100, Marcus wrote:

> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
> 
> Arrigo Marchiori
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)

Thank you, Marcus, and everybody, for your warm welcome!

I am honored to be part of this group!

Best regards,
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Re: New Committer: Arrigo Marchiori

[Carl Marcum]

Welcome to being a committer Arrigo!

Thanks again for your help with the MWiki extension.

I'm using the Dev Guide daily again!

Best regards,
Carl

On 12/26/20 4:19 PM, Marcus wrote:

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Arrigo Marchiori

Please give him a warm welcome. :-)

Marcus
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Re: New Committer: Arrigo Marchiori

[Czesław Wolański]

Congratulations, Arrigo!  You've made a very impressive start.

Regards,
Czesław

RE: New Committer: Arrigo Marchiori

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello Arrigo,

Be very welcome


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Re: New Committer: Arrigo Marchiori

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Arrigo,

I am very happy you have received the committer bit. And this is a start 
of a journey together.


All the best and Merry Christmas!

Peter

On 26.12.20 22:19, Marcus wrote:

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Arrigo Marchiori

Please give him a warm welcome. :-)

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Re: New Committer: Arrigo Marchiori

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 12/26/2020 4:19 PM, Marcus wrote:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
> 
> Arrigo Marchiori
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
> 
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)

Welcome and congratulations Arrigio.

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Re: New Committer: Arrigo Marchiori

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Arrigo,

Welcome!

I promise we get some more of your PRs merged. ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 26.12.20 um 22:19 schrieb Marcus:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
>
> Arrigo Marchiori
>
> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
>
> Marcus
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New Committer: Arrigo Marchiori

[Marcus]

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Arrigo Marchiori

Please give him a warm welcome. :-)

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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Patricia Shanahan]

I got distracted, and forgot to post the only appropriate form of 
message for a "New Committer" thread:


Detlef, welcome to the AOO committer team.


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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Detlef Nannen]

Jörg,

When you wrote to me in a private mail about this matter, I had asked you not 
to continue this discussion by using my name.
You have started this thread, then make sure that it is continued with a 
different title. I have had enough of my name being associated with your 
discussion. Please respect this.

— 
Detlef

> Am 05.07.2020 um 23:34 schrieb Jörg Schmidt :
> 
> Hello Michael, 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2020 8:50 AM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
>> 
>> Hello Jan-Christian,
>> 
>>> Am 03.07.20 um 17:57 schrieb jan-christ...@wienandt.de:
>>> 
>>> I can speak my mind on my own.
>> 
>> That was also my guess.
>> 
>> And that means we do not need a "tribunus plebis".
> 
> When you make decisions, you should justify them meaningfully, then there 
> will be less criticism.
> 
> Remember that we made Günter(?) Feierabend a committer, even without any 
> previous performance, because it was technically useful and I didn't 
> disagree, but rather actively endorsed the approach.
> 
> 
> and on the edge:
> freedom is, for me, typically evidenced by a variety of different opinions. 
> It may be that even under conditions of freedom everyone has the same 
> opinion, but that is rather atypical and typical for completely different 
> circumstances.
> 
> 
> greetings,
> Jörg
> 
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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello Michael, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2020 8:50 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> Hello Jan-Christian,
> 
> Am 03.07.20 um 17:57 schrieb jan-christ...@wienandt.de:
> 
> > I can speak my mind on my own.
> 
> That was also my guess.
> 
> And that means we do not need a "tribunus plebis".

When you make decisions, you should justify them meaningfully, then there will 
be less criticism.

Remember that we made Günter(?) Feierabend a committer, even without any 
previous performance, because it was technically useful and I didn't disagree, 
but rather actively endorsed the approach.


and on the edge:
freedom is, for me, typically evidenced by a variety of different opinions. It 
may be that even under conditions of freedom everyone has the same opinion, but 
that is rather atypical and typical for completely different circumstances.


greetings,
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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Hello Jan-Christian,

Am 03.07.20 um 17:57 schrieb jan-christ...@wienandt.de:

> I can speak my mind on my own.

That was also my guess.

And that means we do not need a "tribunus plebis".

Thank you for this clarification.

Kind regards
Michael




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Re: New Committer: Czesław Wolański

[Czesław Wolański]

Hi,

Thank you all for nice welcome messages.

I am a newbie and still have lots to grasp. Let me therefore quote
someone's words reflecting *almost accurately* my learning experience:

"I am sure that my stupid (seen in the rear mirror) questions must have
driven one or two to the edge,
 but everybody was helpful and did their best to help me".

Why *almost accurately*? Because "one or two" in the above quotation should
in my case be replaced with "at least two". ;‑)

Thanks for time and patience in helping me join the ranks.

With that said, I can only hope I can contribute in a more tangible way.

Kind regards,

Czesław



Le ven. 3 juil. 2020 à 13:26, Carl Marcum  a écrit :

> Welcome to being a committer Czesław!
>
>
> On 6/30/20 6:10 PM, Marcus wrote:
> > The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
> >
> > Czesław Wolański
> >
> > Please give him a warm welcome.
> >
> > Marcus
> > (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
>
> Your great work is very appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
> Carl
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AW: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[jan-christian]

Moin,

Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:

> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?

>This was a mistake: The right question is:

>Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?

I can speak my mind on my own.
It's just that I've learned in the course of my life that
I keep them to myself when there's no point in saying them.

Kind regards
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Re: New Committer: Czesław Wolański

[Carl Marcum]

Welcome to being a committer Czesław!


On 6/30/20 6:10 PM, Marcus wrote:

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Czesław Wolański

Please give him a warm welcome.

Marcus
(on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)


Your great work is very appreciated.

Best regards,
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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 6/30/2020 6:10 PM, Marcus wrote:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
> 
> Detlef Nannen
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome.
> 
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)

Welcome to the ranks of the committers Detlef.

Regards
Keith



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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Carl Marcum]

Welcome as committer Detlef!!

Best regards,
Carl

On 6/30/20 6:10 PM, Marcus wrote:

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Detlef Nannen

Please give him a warm welcome.

Marcus
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Re: some discussion (was: New Committer: Detlef Nannen)

[Marcus]

Am 01.07.20 um 21:29 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

Do you really think it's OK to complain here in this thread about others
which are not invited?
Don't you think that starting a *new* mail thread is the only way to do
this?


Yes, this criticism is justified. I accept it and apologize for not opening a 
new thread.


OK


But only from just 1-2 people, right? I doubt that it was the complete PMC.


As far as I heard the first answer from the PMC to me was already agreed upon 
within the PMC, so this answer was the opinion of the whole PMC, although it 
was given by a single PMC member.


I don't remember about any topic where every PMC has given an opinion 
that was collected first and then an answer was sent to you.



Already this, first, answer I found completely inappropriate and was the 
beginning of a deep disappointment on my part.

Until then I was convinced that at least the PMC in its entirety would react 
with wisdom and in an appropriate way to all problems of the project and that I 
could always hope for support from the PMC, no matter how big the problems were.


Normally you can and should believe in this assumption. However, also 
the PMC consists of humans and these are not always free of errors.



I can only speak openly about what I think, because imho problems can only be 
solved with openness. If this openness is interpreted to me as if I only want 
to provoke, I don't know what to do. I do not believe in polite lies.


and please read me correctly, because I made it very clear that I do not mean 
the whole PMC:

"Let me be more specific: I have little trust in those who are currently have a 
decisive influence on its activities, because there are also members of the PMC whose 
performance I regard with great respect and many members whom I have never got to know 
concretely."


OK, this is your experience and therefore your opinion. Other inside and 
outside the PMC may have made different experiences.



BTW:
When someone is not invited until now means *of course not* that the
person is not wanted. Because it is also possible that the PMC don't
know her/him or doesn't see the full amount of participation in the
OpenOffice project.


How could a person not be known with whom e.g. Mathias has worked together? A 
person who had also worked on the previous flyers.


I don't know how but it is possible. Even when we stand for open source 
and open communication, there are parts that are maybe not open or not 
open enough.


As always, these are my 2ct.

Marcus


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Re: New Committer: Czesław Wolański

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 6/30/2020 6:10 PM, Marcus wrote:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
> 
> Czesław Wolański
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome.
> 
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
Greetings Czeslaw and welcome to the ranks of committers for OpenOffice.

Regards
Keith



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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello Michael, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 11:20 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> Hello Jörg,
> 
> Am 01.07.20 um 16:58 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> 
> >> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?
> > 
> > STOP!
> > I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to 
> doubt that!
> > 
> > (In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all, 
> because I've only known about the development for a few hours)
> > 
> If you speak "in person" about the treatment of another person here in
> public, you should better talk to that person before.

Nothing about that gives you the right to imply what you imply. 

Why should I have to consult with Jan at all? Here two people were treated 
differently, whether Jan bothers or not. That is my opinion, whether Jan shares 
it or not. 

Or if there's a linguistic misunderstanding, you missed your chance to make 
that clear. But I think the sentence I quoted is crystal clear.


greetings,
Jörg

fyi:
I had written to Jan yesterday immediately to talk to him, but because he was 
not at home I have no answer yet, only a note that he was not at home.


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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Hello Jörg,

Am 01.07.20 um 16:58 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

>> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?
> 
> STOP!
> I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to doubt that!
> 
> (In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all, because I've only 
> known about the development for a few hours)
> 
If you speak "in person" about the treatment of another person here in
public, you should better talk to that person before.

Before making a judgement you have to start with the facts.

Kind regards
Michael



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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Hello,

Am 01.07.20 um 16:52 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>>
>> If you want to build a team, performance is not the only thing that
>> counts. But I do not see the problem n practice. I do not 
>> know anybody,
>> who has personal aversions in this case.
> 
> Then you didn't read Mathias' statement on de-dev (or was it de-users?) about 
> his aversions to me.
> 
AFAIk you are a committer, so that is another case.

Kind regards
Michael



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Re: New Committer: Czesław Wolański

[Pedro Lino]

Welcome Czeslaw!

Your numerous contributions (not only to the Polish translation) are a welcome 
addition.

I hope you can pass on to all your energy and motivation!

Kind regards,
Pedro

> On 06/30/2020 11:10 PM Marcus  wrote:
> 
>  
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
> 
> Czesław Wolański
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome.
> 
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
> 
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some discussion (was: New Committer: Detlef Nannen)

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello,

> Do you really think it's OK to complain here in this thread about others 
> which are not invited?
> Don't you think that starting a *new* mail thread is the only way to do 
> this?

Yes, this criticism is justified. I accept it and apologize for not opening a 
new thread.

> But only from just 1-2 people, right? I doubt that it was the complete PMC.

As far as I heard the first answer from the PMC to me was already agreed upon 
within the PMC, so this answer was the opinion of the whole PMC, although it 
was given by a single PMC member.

Already this, first, answer I found completely inappropriate and was the 
beginning of a deep disappointment on my part.

Until then I was convinced that at least the PMC in its entirety would react 
with wisdom and in an appropriate way to all problems of the project and that I 
could always hope for support from the PMC, no matter how big the problems were.

I can only speak openly about what I think, because imho problems can only be 
solved with openness. If this openness is interpreted to me as if I only want 
to provoke, I don't know what to do. I do not believe in polite lies. 


and please read me correctly, because I made it very clear that I do not mean 
the whole PMC:

"Let me be more specific: I have little trust in those who are currently have a 
decisive influence on its activities, because there are also members of the PMC 
whose performance I regard with great respect and many members whom I have 
never got to know concretely."

> BTW:
> When someone is not invited until now means *of course not* that the 
> person is not wanted. Because it is also possible that the PMC don't 
> know her/him or doesn't see the full amount of participation in the 
> OpenOffice project.

How could a person not be known with whom e.g. Mathias has worked together? A 
person who had also worked on the previous flyers.



Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Marcus]

Am 01.07.20 um 18:13 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 5:13 PM
To: dev
Cc: dev...@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen




On Jul 1, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Jörg Schmidt

 wrote:



-Original Message-
From: Dr. Michael Stehmann

[mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]

Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 4:18 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen



Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:


Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?


This was a mistake: The right question is:

Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?


STOP!
I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to

doubt that!


(In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all,

because I've only known about the development for a few hours)



Or are there more people involved in producing the flyers?


Isn't it enough to treat one unjustly?


Why is our announcing new Committers a problem of justice?


Because others who have done the SAME job are denied being committers because 
they are not even asked.


please have - again - a look into the starting mail. It's about to 
welcome a new committer.


Do you really think it's OK to complain here in this thread about others 
which are not invited?
Don't you think that starting a *new* mail thread is the only way to do 
this?



It
should be celebrated. You should stop these accusations.


I'm sorry, but I will not stand by silently and watch our project become a 
gentlemen's club, where everyone is sworn to an opinion and whoever dares to 
express his own opinion is treated as an Troublemaker.


Sure, but please in an own mail thread.


Unfortunately, I had to learn what counts, e.g. accepting employees of IBM into 
the PMC and pretending that it is personal achievement (in the sense of 
voluntary work) to do what you are paid for professionally.
Well, maybe that was helpful, but is it fair to give one person something with 
a light hand that you withhold from the other just because you don't like her 
opinion in some things?


If
there are people that you feel the PMC has missed then please
send an email to private@openoffice and let the PMC know.


No, thank you. I'm not gonna pretend that everything is okay here when in truth 
it's not.

I have had little confidence in the PMC(*) since I experienced the reaction of 
the PMC to a critical request (on private@openoffice) from me.


But only from just 1-2 people, right? I doubt that it was the complete PMC.


(*)
Let me be more specific: I have little trust in those who are currently have a 
decisive influence on its activities, because there are also members of the PMC 
whose performance I regard with great respect and many members whom I have 
never got to know concretely.


Many of us are NOT on the dev-de@openoffice mailing list and
don’t spend any time there. If there have been personal
attacks on the -de lists then please let the PMC know at
private@openoffice so that it can be looked into. Personal
attacks are not OK.


I had a dispute with a PMC member on the mailing list. Do you really think it 
is helpful to complain to the PMC about being verbally attacked by a PMC member?


Of course, how else do want you point to problems with persons?
Do you think it's helpful to do this in public like it is done now?

BTW:
When someone is not invited until now means *of course not* that the 
person is not wanted. Because it is also possible that the PMC don't 
know her/him or doesn't see the full amount of participation in the 
OpenOffice project.


Marcus


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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

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On 7/1/2020 6:06 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
...

And there should be no doubt:
Detlef undoubtedly deserves to be a committer, only others have that to the 
same degree. And whoever apparently excludes these others from it(*), makes his 
opinion clear.


This is intended for all AOO participants, not just Jörg. If you know of 
anyone you think should be a committer and is not please send an e-mail 
to priv...@openoffice.apache.org giving their name and the reasons why 
they should be a committer.


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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 5:13 PM
> To: dev
> Cc: dev...@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jul 1, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Jörg Schmidt 
>  wrote:
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann 
> [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 4:18 PM
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
> >> 
> >>> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?
> >> 
> >> This was a mistake: The right question is:
> >> 
> >> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?
> > 
> > STOP!
> > I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to 
> doubt that!
> > 
> > (In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all, 
> because I've only known about the development for a few hours)
> > 
> >> Or are there more people involved in producing the flyers?
> > 
> > Isn't it enough to treat one unjustly?
> 
> Why is our announcing new Committers a problem of justice?

Because others who have done the SAME job are denied being committers because 
they are not even asked.

> It 
> should be celebrated. You should stop these accusations. 

I'm sorry, but I will not stand by silently and watch our project become a 
gentlemen's club, where everyone is sworn to an opinion and whoever dares to 
express his own opinion is treated as an Troublemaker.

Why do I say that? Because it is not enough for me to do only simple work here 
and to have to keep silent about important things. Of course I am here to make 
AOO better, but I am also here to help shape FOSS policy.

Is that presumptuous? Well, I've been volunteering for OpenOffice (first OOo 
now AOO) for 15 years, if that doesn't count what then?

Unfortunately, I had to learn what counts, e.g. accepting employees of IBM into 
the PMC and pretending that it is personal achievement (in the sense of 
voluntary work) to do what you are paid for professionally.
Well, maybe that was helpful, but is it fair to give one person something with 
a light hand that you withhold from the other just because you don't like her 
opinion in some things?

> If 
> there are people that you feel the PMC has missed then please 
> send an email to private@openoffice and let the PMC know. 

No, thank you. I'm not gonna pretend that everything is okay here when in truth 
it's not.

I have had little confidence in the PMC(*) since I experienced the reaction of 
the PMC to a critical request (on private@openoffice) from me.

(*)
Let me be more specific: I have little trust in those who are currently have a 
decisive influence on its activities, because there are also members of the PMC 
whose performance I regard with great respect and many members whom I have 
never got to know concretely.

> Many of us are NOT on the dev-de@openoffice mailing list and 
> don’t spend any time there. If there have been personal 
> attacks on the -de lists then please let the PMC know at 
> private@openoffice so that it can be looked into. Personal 
> attacks are not OK.

I had a dispute with a PMC member on the mailing list. Do you really think it 
is helpful to complain to the PMC about being verbally attacked by a PMC member?


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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 5:13 PM
> To: dev
> Cc: dev-de@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jul 1, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Jörg Schmidt 
>  wrote:
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann 
> [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 4:18 PM
> >> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
> >> 
> >>> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?
> >> 
> >> This was a mistake: The right question is:
> >> 
> >> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?
> > 
> > STOP!
> > I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to 
> doubt that!
> > 
> > (In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all, 
> because I've only known about the development for a few hours)
> > 
> >> Or are there more people involved in producing the flyers?
> > 
> > Isn't it enough to treat one unjustly?
> 
> Why is our announcing new Committers a problem of justice?

Because others who have done the SAME job are denied being committers because 
they are not even asked.

> It 
> should be celebrated. You should stop these accusations. 

I'm sorry, but I will not stand by silently and watch our project become a 
gentlemen's club, where everyone is sworn to an opinion and whoever dares to 
express his own opinion is treated as an Troublemaker.

Why do I say that? Because it is not enough for me to do only simple work here 
and to have to keep silent about important things. Of course I am here to make 
AOO better, but I am also here to help shape FOSS policy.

Is that presumptuous? Well, I've been volunteering for OpenOffice (first OOo 
now AOO) for 15 years, if that doesn't count what then?

Unfortunately, I had to learn what counts, e.g. accepting employees of IBM into 
the PMC and pretending that it is personal achievement (in the sense of 
voluntary work) to do what you are paid for professionally.
Well, maybe that was helpful, but is it fair to give one person something with 
a light hand that you withhold from the other just because you don't like her 
opinion in some things?

> If 
> there are people that you feel the PMC has missed then please 
> send an email to private@openoffice and let the PMC know. 

No, thank you. I'm not gonna pretend that everything is okay here when in truth 
it's not.

I have had little confidence in the PMC(*) since I experienced the reaction of 
the PMC to a critical request (on private@openoffice) from me.

(*)
Let me be more specific: I have little trust in those who are currently have a 
decisive influence on its activities, because there are also members of the PMC 
whose performance I regard with great respect and many members whom I have 
never got to know concretely.

> Many of us are NOT on the dev-de@openoffice mailing list and 
> don’t spend any time there. If there have been personal 
> attacks on the -de lists then please let the PMC know at 
> private@openoffice so that it can be looked into. Personal 
> attacks are not OK.

I had a dispute with a PMC member on the mailing list. Do you really think it 
is helpful to complain to the PMC about being verbally attacked by a PMC member?


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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Dave Fisher]

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 4:18 PM
>> To: d...@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
>> 
>>> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?
>> 
>> This was a mistake: The right question is:
>> 
>> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?
> 
> STOP!
> I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to doubt that!
> 
> (In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all, because I've only 
> known about the development for a few hours)
> 
>> Or are there more people involved in producing the flyers?
> 
> Isn't it enough to treat one unjustly?

Why is our announcing new Committers a problem of justice? It should be 
celebrated. You should stop these accusations. If there are people that you 
feel the PMC has missed then please send an email to private@openoffice and let 
the PMC know. The project is vast and we can’t see everything as we are all 
volunteers.

Many of us are NOT on the dev-de@openoffice mailing list and don’t spend any 
time there. If there have been personal attacks on the -de lists then please 
let the PMC know at private@openoffice so that it can be looked into. Personal 
attacks are not OK.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Dave Fisher]

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 4:18 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
>> 
>>> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?
>> 
>> This was a mistake: The right question is:
>> 
>> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?
> 
> STOP!
> I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to doubt that!
> 
> (In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all, because I've only 
> known about the development for a few hours)
> 
>> Or are there more people involved in producing the flyers?
> 
> Isn't it enough to treat one unjustly?

Why is our announcing new Committers a problem of justice? It should be 
celebrated. You should stop these accusations. If there are people that you 
feel the PMC has missed then please send an email to private@openoffice and let 
the PMC know. The project is vast and we can’t see everything as we are all 
volunteers.

Many of us are NOT on the dev-de@openoffice mailing list and don’t spend any 
time there. If there have been personal attacks on the -de lists then please 
let the PMC know at private@openoffice so that it can be looked into. Personal 
attacks are not OK.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
> 
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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 4:18 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> 
> 
> Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
> 
> > Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?
> 
> This was a mistake: The right question is:
> 
> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?

STOP!
I'm only speaking specifically in person here. Try not to doubt that!

(In fact, I haven't had the chance to talk to Jan at all, because I've only 
known about the development for a few hours)

> Or are there more people involved in producing the flyers?

Isn't it enough to treat one unjustly?



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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 4:08 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> 
> 
> Am 01.07.20 um 15:06 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> > Power, including the PMC, should be used responsibly.
> 
> That is evidently true.
> 
>  Personal sympathies are not a good signpost; performance alone should
> count.
> 
> If you want to build a team, performance is not the only thing that
> counts. But I do not see the problem n practice. I do not 
> know anybody,
> who has personal aversions in this case.

Then you didn't read Mathias' statement on de-dev (or was it de-users?) about 
his aversions to me.

I found it symptomatic that remained unchallenged as Mathias expressed himself 
there.
And as you rightly say, it's not only about performance, but also about other 
things, such as trust and, for example, that we (at the PMC) are led by people 
for whom the success of the project is more important than personal matters.

> If the imputation would be true, you would be right. But it is not.

it is right in some cases.
I gave you some examples on de-dev that you didn't go into 

> > And there should be no doubt:
> > Detlef undoubtedly deserves to be a committer, only others 
> have that to the same degree. And whoever apparently excludes 
> these others from it(*), makes his opinion clear.
> 
> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?

It's the decision of those people at PMC. (At least that's what I meant.)

> You are obviously in error about the treatment:
> 
> First there is a nomination by a PMC member..
> 
> Than there is a decision of the PMC.
> 
> An after that the individual is asked, whether (s)he wants to become a
> committer.
> 
> By the way: the policy of the PMC is to include better more then less
> people into the project.

I think that's not entirely true and I had already said on de-dev why. 



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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Am 01.07.20 um 16:08 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:

> Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?

This was a mistake: The right question is:

Is this your opinion or the opinion of Jan-Christian?

Or are there more people involved in producing the flyers?

Excuse my mistake.

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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Am 01.07.20 um 15:06 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> Power, including the PMC, should be used responsibly.

That is evidently true.

 Personal sympathies are not a good signpost; performance alone should
count.

If you want to build a team, performance is not the only thing that
counts. But I do not see the problem n practice. I do not know anybody,
who has personal aversions in this case.

> 
> These things are also a very simple question of the sense of justice and 
> where performance is no longer judged fairly, our project AOO suffers.

If the imputation would be true, you would be right. But it is not.
> 
> And there should be no doubt:
> Detlef undoubtedly deserves to be a committer, only others have that to the 
> same degree. And whoever apparently excludes these others from it(*), makes 
> his opinion clear.

Is this your opinion or the opinion of Detlef?

You are obviously in error about the treatment:

First there is a nomination by a PMC member..

Than there is a decision of the PMC.

An after that the individual is asked, whether (s)he wants to become a
committer.

By the way: the policy of the PMC is to include better more then less
people into the project.

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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 2:35 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Jörg,
> 
> that is in general no secret and well known:
> 
> The PMC of an Apache project closely monitors the contributions of
> individuals. When a PMC member nominates an individual, it is usefull
> the member talks to other members before the nomination. The committee
> votes to decide whether the contributions of the individual 
> qualify for
> committer-ship. Often there is a large consensus about this question.
> 
> Than the individuals is asked, whether (s)he wants to become a
> committer. If the persons says yes, there is some legal and technical
> formalities and in the end (s)he will be presented and 
> welcomed as a new
> committer.
> 
> It is in essence the same way as in your case.

Power, including the PMC, should be used responsibly. Personal sympathies are 
not a good signpost; performance alone should count.

These things are also a very simple question of the sense of justice and where 
performance is no longer judged fairly, our project AOO suffers.

And there should be no doubt:
Detlef undoubtedly deserves to be a committer, only others have that to the 
same degree. And whoever apparently excludes these others from it(*), makes his 
opinion clear.


(*)
Or were others also asked and refused?
(I had already asked Peter this question.) 


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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Hi Jörg,

that is in general no secret and well known:

The PMC of an Apache project closely monitors the contributions of
individuals. When a PMC member nominates an individual, it is usefull
the member talks to other members before the nomination. The committee
votes to decide whether the contributions of the individual qualify for
committer-ship. Often there is a large consensus about this question.

Than the individuals is asked, whether (s)he wants to become a
committer. If the persons says yes, there is some legal and technical
formalities and in the end (s)he will be presented and welcomed as a new
committer.

It is in essence the same way as in your case.

Kind regards
Michael





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Re: New Committer: Czesław Wolański

[Peter]

Hi Czeslaw,


I am very happy to see your work. You have done great work in the field 
of translation and testing. I am looking forward to your future 
participation.



Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice as Committer.


All the Best

Peter

Am 01.07.20 um 00:10 schrieb Marcus:

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Czesław Wolański

Please give him a warm welcome.

Marcus
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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Peter [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 1:56 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> Hi Detlef,
> 
> Welcome as a committer on the Apache OpenOffice project.
> 
> I hope you are fine that I added your name at the cwiki to 
> mark you as 
> an involved volunteer.
> 
> 
> I think it is a good thing that we have you maintaining the 
> flyers. You 
> did it in the past with a lot of dedication, and shown 
> activity on our 
> Lists. I hope you stay that way and work with the booth team 
> in order we 
> have something  to present to people in future.

Flyer design and booth management, another active member of the German AOO 
community has also done so in the past. 
Why isn't the committer offered to him as well?

Or was he offered the committer and he turned it down?


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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Peter]

Hi Detlef,

Welcome as a committer on the Apache OpenOffice project.

I hope you are fine that I added your name at the cwiki to mark you as 
an involved volunteer.



I think it is a good thing that we have you maintaining the flyers. You 
did it in the past with a lot of dedication, and shown activity on our 
Lists. I hope you stay that way and work with the booth team in order we 
have something  to present to people in future.



All the Best

Peter

Am 01.07.20 um 00:10 schrieb Marcus:

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Detlef Nannen

Please give him a warm welcome.

Marcus
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RE: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2020 12:10 AM
> To: dev@
> Cc: Detlef Nannen
> Subject: New Committer: Detlef Nannen
> 
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new 
> committer on board:
> 
> Detlef Nannen
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome.
> 
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)

May I ask on whose authority and for what reason?

In particular, I note that there were other people involved in the flyers who 
obviously didn't get committer status for that?

Why is the committer status not offered to all people involved in the flyer? 
Why are past performance and the intention for future performance not equally 
recognised?



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Re: New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Matthias Seidel]

Welcome Detlef,

In July I will work on our OpenOffice flyer again, stay tuned! ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 01.07.20 um 00:10 schrieb Marcus:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
>
> Detlef Nannen
>
> Please give him a warm welcome.
>
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
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Re: New Committer: Czesław Wolański

[Matthias Seidel]

Welcome Czesław!

Your contributions are highly appreciated!

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 01.07.20 um 00:10 schrieb Marcus:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
>
> Czesław Wolański
>
> Please give him a warm welcome.
>
> Marcus
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New Committer: Detlef Nannen

[Marcus]

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Detlef Nannen

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New Committer: Czesław Wolański

[Marcus]

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Czesław Wolański

Please give him a warm welcome.

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Re: New Committer: Pedro Lino

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias

> On 06/20/2020 12:13 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> > https://denisezannino.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/the-illustrated-guide-to-a-phd1.jpg
> > (original idea http://matt.might.net/articles/phd-school-in-pictures/)
> 
> Fortunately one does not need a PhD to make contributions... ;-)

I agree! You just need to be willing to do something and to donate some of your 
free time ;)

There is a Portuguese proverb that says "Faz mais quem quer do que quem pode" 
which roughly translates to "People who want to do something accomplish more 
than those who can do it"

Kind regards,
Pedro

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Re: New Committer: Pedro Lino

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Pedro,

Am 20.06.20 um 00:22 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Thank you all for the nice welcome messages.
>
> I hope I can make a small contribution ;)
>
> https://denisezannino.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/the-illustrated-guide-to-a-phd1.jpg
> (original idea http://matt.might.net/articles/phd-school-in-pictures/)

Fortunately one does not need a PhD to make contributions... ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Kind regards
> Pedro
>
>> On 06/17/2020 11:44 PM Marcus  wrote:
>>
>>  
>> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
>>
>> Pedro Lino
>>
>> Please give him a warm welcome.
>>
>> Marcus
>> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
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Re: New Committer: Pedro Lino

[Pedro Lino]

Thank you all for the nice welcome messages.

I hope I can make a small contribution ;)

https://denisezannino.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/the-illustrated-guide-to-a-phd1.jpg
(original idea http://matt.might.net/articles/phd-school-in-pictures/)

Kind regards
Pedro

> On 06/17/2020 11:44 PM Marcus  wrote:
> 
>  
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
> 
> Pedro Lino
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome.
> 
> Marcus
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Re: New Committer: Pedro Lino

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 6/17/2020 6:44 PM, Marcus wrote:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
> 
> Pedro Lino
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome.
> 
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
Welcome Pedro;

Nice to see you have joined the committer ranks and thank you for all
the hard work for the project that made this possible.

Regards
Keith




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Re: New Committer: Pedro Lino

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Pedro,

Welcome on board as a committer.

Thanks for your contributions to the project.

Best regards,
Carl

On 6/18/20 11:11 PM, Peter wrote:

Hi Pedro,

Thanks for joining the commiter ranks. It shows your support in the 
past, and i hope you will stay for a longer while. We need the 
participation from people who are interested, no matter the 
difficulties that we face.


OpenOffice is a behemoth and we are very slow in our progress.

I hoppe we see your continued support and we enjoy your contributions 
and your personallity within our community. :)



see you!

All the best

Peter

Am 18.06.20 um 10:10 schrieb Matthias Seidel:


Welcome Pedro! ;-)

Your support is always appreciated!

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 18.06.20 um 00:44 schrieb Marcus:
The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on 
board:


Pedro Lino

Please give him a warm welcome.

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Re: New Committer: Pedro Lino

[Peter]

Hi Pedro,

Thanks for joining the commiter ranks. It shows your support in the 
past, and i hope you will stay for a longer while. We need the 
participation from people who are interested, no matter the difficulties 
that we face.


OpenOffice is a behemoth and we are very slow in our progress.

I hoppe we see your continued support and we enjoy your contributions 
and your personallity within our community. :)



see you!

All the best

Peter

Am 18.06.20 um 10:10 schrieb Matthias Seidel:


Welcome Pedro! ;-)

Your support is always appreciated!

Regards,

    Matthias

Am 18.06.20 um 00:44 schrieb Marcus:

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Pedro Lino

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Re: New Committer: Pedro Lino

[Matthias Seidel]

Welcome Pedro! ;-)

Your support is always appreciated!

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 18.06.20 um 00:44 schrieb Marcus:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
>
> Pedro Lino
>
> Please give him a warm welcome.
>
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Re: New Committer: Günter Feierabend

[Günter Feierabend]

To all kind people here,

> Am 19.12.2017 um 21:49 schrieb Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net>:
> 
> On 12/19/2017 3:32 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
>> 
>> Günter Feierabend
>> 
>> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
>> 
>> Marcus
>> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
> Welcome Gunter
> 
> Keith
> 

thank you, and I’m looking forward to working officially as a member in the 
Apache OpenOffice-team.

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Re: New Committer: Günter Feierabend

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Günter! Nice to see you as a commuter now. :-)

Am 19. Dezember 2017 21:32:18 MEZ schrieb Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de>:
>The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on
>board:
>
>Günter Feierabend
>
>Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
>
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On 12/19/2017 03:32 PM, Marcus wrote:

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

Günter Feierabend

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Re: New Committer: Günter Feierabend

[Matthias Seidel]

Willkommen Günter!


Am 19.12.2017 um 21:32 schrieb Marcus:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
>
> Günter Feierabend
>
> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
>
> Marcus
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Re: New Committer: Günter Feierabend

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 12/19/2017 3:32 PM, Marcus wrote:
> The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:
>
> Günter Feierabend
>
> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
>
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC)
Welcome Gunter

Keith



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[Marcus]

The Apache OpenOffice project is happy to have a new committer on board:

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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Matthias Seidel]

Thank you very much!

regards, Matthias


Am 18.11.2016 um 12:39 schrieb Carl Marcum:
> On 11/15/2016 01:27 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> We as OpenOffice PMC are happy to announce that Matthias Seidel
>> (mseidel) is a new committer in our project.
>>
>> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
>>
>> Marcus
>> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice MC)
>>
>
> Welcome and congratulations Matthias !!
>
> Best regards,
> Carl
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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Matthias Seidel]

Thanks a lot!


Am 18.11.2016 um 14:44 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> Marcus wrote:
>> We as OpenOffice PMC are happy to announce that Matthias Seidel
>> (mseidel) is a new committer in our project.
>>
>> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
>>
>> Marcus
>> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice MC)
> Congratulations Matthias and welcome
>
> Keith
>




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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Keith N. McKenna]

Marcus wrote:
> We as OpenOffice PMC are happy to announce that Matthias Seidel
> (mseidel) is a new committer in our project.
> 
> Please give him a warm welcome. :-)
> 
> Marcus
> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice MC)
Congratulations Matthias and welcome

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Re: New Committer: Peter Kovacs (petko)

[Keith N. McKenna]

Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased
> to announce that Peter Kovacs (petko) is now a committer on the Apache
> OpenOffice project.
> 
> A warm welcome to Peter!
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC
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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Carl Marcum]

On 11/15/2016 01:27 PM, Marcus wrote:
We as OpenOffice PMC are happy to announce that Matthias Seidel 
(mseidel) is a new committer in our project.


Please give him a warm welcome. :-)

Marcus
(on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice MC)



Welcome and congratulations Matthias !!

Best regards,
Carl

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Re: New Committer: Peter Kovacs (petko)

[Carl Marcum]

On 11/14/2016 05:30 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is 
pleased to announce that Peter Kovacs (petko) is now a committer on 
the Apache OpenOffice project.


A warm welcome to Peter!

Regards,
  Andrea, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC



Welcome and congratulations Peter !

Best regards.
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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Matthias Seidel]

Hello Marcus, hello all,

Thanks for the kind reception!

Glad to be part of this great project...

Matthias


Am 15.11.2016 um 19:27 schrieb Marcus:
> We as OpenOffice PMC are happy to announce that Matthias Seidel
> (mseidel) is a new committer in our project.
>
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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Jan Høydahl]

Welcome Matthias!

--
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Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com

> 15. nov. 2016 kl. 22.38 skrev Jörg Schmidt :
> 
> Welcome Matthias.
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Jörg 
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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Jörg Schmidt]

Welcome Matthias.


Greetings,
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Re: New Committer: Peter Kovacs (petko)

[Peter Kovacs]

Thank you for the whishes.

I hope we have much Fun together.


On 15.11.2016 19:28, Marcus wrote:

Congrats and welcome to the project. :-)

Marcus



Am 11/14/2016 11:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased
to announce that Peter Kovacs (petko) is now a committer on the Apache
OpenOffice project.

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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Matthias!

Seems that the team in total is quite fresh?! :-)


On 15.11.2016 19:51, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

Welcome on board Matthias!

Roberto

On Nov 15, 2016 7:27 PM, "Marcus" <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:


We as OpenOffice PMC are happy to announce that Matthias Seidel (mseidel)
is a new committer in our project.

Please give him a warm welcome. :-)

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Re: New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Roberto Galoppini]

Welcome on board Matthias!

Roberto

On Nov 15, 2016 7:27 PM, "Marcus" <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> We as OpenOffice PMC are happy to announce that Matthias Seidel (mseidel)
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>
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Re: New Committer: Peter Kovacs (petko)

[Marcus]

Congrats and welcome to the project. :-)

Marcus



Am 11/14/2016 11:30 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased
to announce that Peter Kovacs (petko) is now a committer on the Apache
OpenOffice project.

A warm welcome to Peter!

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New Committer: Matthias Seidel

[Marcus]

We as OpenOffice PMC are happy to announce that Matthias Seidel 
(mseidel) is a new committer in our project.


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Re: New Committer: Peter Kovacs (petko)

[Jörg Schmidt]

Be welcome Peter 

Greetings,
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Re: New Committer: Peter Kovacs (petko)

[Jan Høydahl]

Welcome and congrats, Peter!

--
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Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com

> 14. nov. 2016 kl. 23.30 skrev Andrea Pescetti :
> 
> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to 
> announce that Peter Kovacs (petko) is now a committer on the Apache 
> OpenOffice project.
> 
> A warm welcome to Peter!
> 
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New Committer: Peter Kovacs (petko)

[Andrea Pescetti]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased 
to announce that Peter Kovacs (petko) is now a committer on the Apache 
OpenOffice project.


A warm welcome to Peter!

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Re: New Committer: Jan Høydahl (janhoy)

[Jan Høydahl]

Hi and thanks for the welcome!

I am an independent consultant working mostly with Enterprise Search 
technologies
for large customers in Norway and Europe. I’m a committer and PMC member of the
Apache Lucene project and my coding experience is mainly Java and Python.

With AOO I have so far mainly contributed in translating the application and 
website
into Norwegian. The old site was badly outdated.

I’m a Mac user and have been using OOo and AOO regularly since 2005.
I’d love to see the current AOO Mac version stop crashing, but I’m afraid I 
can’t help with that :(

--
Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com

> 25. apr. 2016 kl. 23.37 skrev Marcus :
> 
> Am 04/25/2016 09:38 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> [BCC AOO PMC]
>>> 
>>> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to
>>> annound that Jan Høydahl (janhoy) has accepted our invitation to become a
>>> committer on the Apache OpenOfffice project.
>>> 
>>> A warm welcome to Jan Høydahl.
>>> 
>> 
>> ​Welcome Jan! It's great to have you join us as a committer.
> 
> also from me a warm welcome. :-)
> 
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Re: New Committer: Jan Høydahl (janhoy)

[Marcus]

Am 04/25/2016 09:38 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
wrote:


[BCC AOO PMC]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to
annound that Jan Høydahl (janhoy) has accepted our invitation to become a
committer on the Apache OpenOfffice project.

A warm welcome to Jan Høydahl.



​Welcome Jan! It's great to have you join us as a committer.


also from me a warm welcome. :-)

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Re: New Committer: Jan Høydahl (janhoy)

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On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton 
wrote:

> [BCC AOO PMC]
>
> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to
> annound that Jan Høydahl (janhoy) has accepted our invitation to become a
> committer on the Apache OpenOfffice project.
>
> A warm welcome to Jan Høydahl.
>

​Welcome Jan! It's great to have you join us as a committer.
​


>
> Regards,
>
>  Dennis Hamilton, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC
>
>
>
>
>

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New Committer: Jan Høydahl (janhoy)

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC AOO PMC]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to 
annound that Jan Høydahl (janhoy) has accepted our invitation to become a 
committer on the Apache OpenOfffice project.

A warm welcome to Jan Høydahl.

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Re: New Committer: Don Lewis (truckman)

[Don Lewis]

On 13 Dec, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> [BCC AOO PMC]
> 
> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to
> announced that Don Lewis has accepted and taken the ID truckman.
> 
> A warm welcome to Don Lewis.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  Dennis Hamilton, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC

Thanks!

By way of introduction, I've been working with various flavors of Unix
since the early 1980's.  I started working with open source software in
the mid to late 1980's and contributed code to BIND, INN, and trn, as
well as a few other odds and ends.  I started using FreeBSD in the early
1990's, became a src committer in 1998, and got my ports commit bit
early last year. I made my first contribution to the FreeBSD openoffice
port in 2003 and picked up the pace in 2012.

In terms of contributing to OpenOffice, my interests are upstreaming
patches from the FreeBSD port as appropriate, fixing bugs, and general
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New Committer: Jon Peli Oleaga (jpoleaga)

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC AOO PMC]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to 
announced that Jon Peli Oleaga (jpoleaga) has accepted our invitation to become 
a committer on the Apache OpenOffice project.

A warm welcome to Jon Peli Oleaga.

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New Committer: Patricia Shanahan (pats)

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC AOO PMC]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to 
announced that Patricia Shanahan (pats) has accepted our invitation to become a 
committer on the Apache OpenOffice project.

A warm welcome to Patricia Shanahan.

Regards,

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Re: New Committer: Don Lewis (truckman)

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On 12/13/2015 08:13 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

[BCC AOO PMC]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to
announced that Don Lewis has accepted and taken the ID truckman.

A warm welcome to Don Lewis.

Regards,

  Dennis Hamilton, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC



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[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[BCC AOO PMC]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to
announced that Don Lewis has accepted and taken the ID truckman.

A warm welcome to Don Lewis.

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Re: New Committer: Don Lewis (truckman)

[Keith N. McKenna]

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> [BCC AOO PMC]
> 
> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice is pleased to
> announced that Don Lewis has accepted and taken the ID truckman.
> 
> A warm welcome to Don Lewis.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  Dennis Hamilton, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC
> 
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Keith



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Re: New committer

[Manik Malhotra]

Thanks a lot everybody!
 


 On Friday, 7 August 2015 6:41 PM, Albino B Neto b...@riseup.net wrote:
   

 2015-08-06 16:50 GMT-03:00 jan i j...@apache.org:
 Welcome to Manik Malhotra who just accepting being openoffice committer.

Congratulations!

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Re: New committer

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Congratulations!

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Re: New committer

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Welcome on board. :-)

Marcus



Am 08/06/2015 09:50 PM, schrieb jan i:

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Re: New committer

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On 08/06/2015 12:50 PM, jan i wrote:
 Hi.
 
 Welcome to Manik Malhotra who just accepting being openoffice committer.
 
 rgds
 jan i.

Welcome Manik!


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New committer

[jan i]

Hi.

Welcome to Manik Malhotra who just accepting being openoffice committer.

rgds
jan i.

Re: New committer: Tal Daniel (tal)

[Tal Daniel]

Thanks for the invite as a Committer,
and for your welcome greetings.

New committer: Tal Daniel (tal)

[Andrea Pescetti]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
Tal Daniel to become a committer and we are pleased to announce
that Tal has accepted and taken the ID tal.

A warm welcome to Tal !

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Re: New committer: Tal Daniel (tal)

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Hi

On 01.05.2014 09:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
Tal Daniel to become a committer and we are pleased to announce
that Tal has accepted and taken the ID tal.

A warm welcome to Tal !



yes, welcome to the team.


Best regards, Oliver


Regards,

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Re: New committer: Tal Daniel (tal)

[Marcus (OOo)]

Am 05/01/2014 09:02 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
Tal Daniel to become a committer and we are pleased to announce
that Tal has accepted and taken the ID tal.

A warm welcome to Tal !


welcome to the team. I wish you much fun and success. :-)

If you want you add some details to our volunteers webpage:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers

Marcus


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Re: New committer: Aivaras Stepukonis (astepukonis)

[Kay Schenk]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:

 The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
 Aivaras Stepukonis to become a committer and we are pleased to announce
 that he has accepted and taken the ID astepukonis.

 A warm welcome to Aivaras !

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Welcome Aivaras.


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New committer: Aivaras Stepukonis (astepukonis)

[Andrea Pescetti]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
Aivaras Stepukonis to become a committer and we are pleased to announce
that he has accepted and taken the ID astepukonis.

A warm welcome to Aivaras !

Regards,

Andrea, on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC

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Re: New committer: Clarence Guo (clarence_guo)

[Clarence GUO]

Thank you all.
Wish to have more contributions to this project.

Clarence


2014-02-16 1:24 GMT+08:00 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com:


 On 02/14/2014 01:42 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

 The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
 Clarence Guo to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that
 he has accepted and taken the ID clarence_guo.

 A warm welcome to Clarence!

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  Welcome Clarence!

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Re: New committer: Clarence Guo (clarence_guo)

[Steve Yin]

Clarence is an experienced developer. He has ten years development
experience on Symphony and AOO. Now he is focusing on OOXML export.

Congratulations!


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 Clarence Guo to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that
 he has accepted and taken the ID clarence_guo.

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New committer: Clarence Guo (clarence_guo)

[Rob Weir]

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
Clarence Guo to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that
he has accepted and taken the ID clarence_guo.

A warm welcome to Clarence!

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Re: New committer: Rainer Bielefeld (rbd)

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi Rainer

Am 13.01.14 08:25, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache OpenOffice has asked
Rainer Bielefeld to become a committer and we are
pleased to announce that he has accepted and taken the ID rbd.

A warm welcome to Rainer !
Yes, walcome as committer at Apache OpenOffice. one of the best 
bughunter is back!


Greetings Raphael


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