Re: [S2] Message Resources ExpressionConfigurationSupport

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Husted
Yes, the problem with a wildcard search is that different containers or JVMs might sort the list differently. The current model already loads multiple property files from multiple location according to a predefined search pattern, and I expect it would handle the same way we handle them now, which

Re: Planet Struts Calendar

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Husted
The credentials are in the Struts PMC folder, in the ASF private area. To be a maintainer, login to gmail using the planetstruts credentials and then share the calendar with your own Google account. I added the ApacheCon US 2007 events that we have on the homepage. *

Re: [PROPOSAL] Merge Able/Code Behind/Zero-Config/SmartURLs into view-behind specification

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Husted
On Nov 5, 2007 1:44 PM, Brian Pontarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay. The example is in the SmartURLs repository: http://smarturls-s2.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/apps/crud-example/ Are you using a modified TLD? When I tried to run it in Eclipse, Tomcat complained Nov 6, 2007 5:40:25 AM

Re: [WW-2292] Validation annotations v. ActionSupport

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Husted
I would say that the behavior described is the expected behavior. AFAIK, the @Validation() annotation is just a bit of red-tape, and if we didn't need it, it wouldn't be there at all. Essentially, the @Validation is inherited alongwith the validations. There's another semantic, @SkipValidation,

Re: Planet Struts Calendar

2007-11-06 Thread Martin Cooper
Thanks, Ted. I just added the Roller and Struts 2 BOF as well. -- Martin Cooper On Nov 6, 2007 2:40 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The credentials are in the Struts PMC folder, in the ASF private area. To be a maintainer, login to gmail using the planetstruts credentials and then

Re: [PROPOSAL] Merge Able/Code Behind/Zero-Config/SmartURLs into view-behind specification

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Husted
On Nov 6, 2007 6:58 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, for SmartURLs today, in order to use action validation we have to use the thin approach. The validation annotations for multiple methods are glommed together in 2.0, and SmartURLs doesn't seem to pickup on the method

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Roughley
Ted Husted wrote: On Nov 4, 2007 10:26 PM, Chris Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 4, 2007 2:58 PM, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the problem of so many combinations of plugins, I'm all for the proliferation of plugins, but do think we need to not ship with two

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Chris Pratt
On Nov 6, 2007 11:35 AM, Ian Roughley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to be a little behind on the thread, but what is the message that we are providing to user across different EL implements? Is accessing internationalization text and using custom type converters, for example, going to be the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Merge Able/Code Behind/Zero-Config/SmartURLs into view-behind specification

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Roughley
If it were me, I'd finish the book using struts.xml, and go to work on a second edition as soon as SmartURLs goes to 1.0 (even if the first edition isn't done yet). Getting a couple of solid Struts 2.0 books out there is the best way to drum up marketshare for a Struts 2.1 edition. Bummer...

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Roughley
Chris Pratt wrote: On Nov 6, 2007 11:35 AM, Ian Roughley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to be a little behind on the thread, but what is the message that we are providing to user across different EL implements? Is accessing internationalization text and using custom type converters, for

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Husted
On Nov 6, 2007 3:00 PM, Ian Roughley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For your comment, I am assuming you are saying the message is - changing the EL means changing everything the EL touches, and selecting an EL means making a choice on everything the EL touches, correct? At this point, JUEL is just

Re: [PROPOSAL] Merge Able/Code Behind/Zero-Config/SmartURLs into view-behind specification

2007-11-06 Thread Ted Husted
Part of the problem is that the CodeBehind plugin is under-documented, and I'm not even sure of what it is capable of doing right now. Perhaps Ian's book will help, or perhaps someone who is using the CodeBehind will beef up the documentation, or maybe even do a MailReader implementation. There's

Re: [PROPOSAL] Merge Able/Code Behind/Zero-Config/SmartURLs into view-behind specification

2007-11-06 Thread Don Brown
Ah, another good reason not to kill the codebehind plugin as it currently exists. I'm still not convinced we need drastic changes here, more like just filling out functionality. Don On 11/7/07, Ian Roughley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it were me, I'd finish the book using struts.xml, and

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Don Brown
On 11/7/07, Tom Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian brings up a good point in that we'll have to decide how to handle some things like I18N/type conversion/method invocation. Not all EL's are created equal and OGNL probably is a little more flexible and powerful than most. Then even if we

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Tom Schneider
LOL, I didn't know my efforts were going to cause such a raucous. :) Ted is correct--I started this on Saturday on a whim. At this point it is completely experimental--we have a long ways to go before it is even close to usable. However, I was able to execute a simple expression using my value

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Chris Pratt
On Nov 6, 2007 12:37 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point, JUEL is just something Tom committed to the sandbox, like yesterday (literally). We aren't sending any messages to anyone else, since I doubt that many of us have had a chance to look at it ourselves yet. If JUEL

Re: [s2] extras-lib (was JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib))

2007-11-06 Thread Tom Schneider
On 11/6/07, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Type conversion isn't tied to OGNL in 2.1. XWork has a new API (copied from OGNL) to abstract type conversion. Of course not all EL's support type conversion in the same way, so there may be issues down the road. i18N isn't tied at all to OGNL,

Re: SmartURLs crud-example (was [PROPOSAL] Merge Able/Code Behind/Zero-Config/SmartURLs into view-behind specification)

2007-11-06 Thread Jeromy Evans
Hi Brian, There seems to be a small glitch with url mapping in the crud-example (rev151). It's okay for the standard use-cases but break-downs if I do something untoward. Interestingly, the behaviour differs between Firefox and IE6. Here's the test-case. The URL is what's displayed on the