Re: [VOTE] Move JSON plugin to trunk

2009-08-10 Thread Obinna
(non-committer's non-binding) +1 it would make configuration of ajax projects a bit simpler 2009/8/6 Wes Wannemacher w...@wantii.com On Wednesday 05 August 2009 09:54:41 pm Musachy Barroso wrote: Although I understand it is quite used, I am not sure why you want it in core, having it as

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Rene Gielen
+1 for moving XW over as a S2 subproject. Not sure if I'd come dressed in black to that funeral ... :) Don Brown schrieb: XWork was left at OpenSymphony, because at the time, there were a number of WebWork developers still around and we wanted to continue to work together. Today, WebWork

Re: Struts2 jQuery Plugin - Logo

2009-08-10 Thread Rene Gielen
Still no objections so far. I would volunteer to help with IP clearance Musachy Barroso schrieb: Just to recap on this (no, I won't let this go stale ;) ), we have a consensus on using JQuery as the underlying framework for the ajax tags, and we agree that we could use this project. Is there

Re: [VOTE] Move JSON plugin to trunk

2009-08-10 Thread Rene Gielen
+1 Musachy Barroso schrieb: I think the JSON plugin is ready to be moved to trunk, here is my +1. musachy -- René Gielen IT-Neering.net Saarstrasse 100, 52062 Aachen, Germany Tel: +49-(0)241-4010770 Fax: +49-(0)241-4010771 Cel: +49-(0)177-3194448 http://twitter.com/rgielen

Re: Struts2 jQuery Plugin - Logo

2009-08-10 Thread Musachy Barroso
Go ahead with it, thanks for volunteering. musachy On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Rene Gielenrgie...@apache.org wrote: Still no objections so far. I would volunteer to help with IP clearance Musachy Barroso schrieb: Just to recap on this (no, I won't let this go stale ;) ), we have a

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Cooper
If we bring XWork here and it becomes its own subproject, it will have its own release cycle. This will allow people to use XWork independently of Struts, but it means there is still a separate release cycle, independent of the Struts 2 release cycle. Thus we're in pretty much the same situation

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Brian Pontarelli
Personally, I feel that struts top to bottom should be web centric and not try to abstract out JEE. This makes life cumbersome and difficult in many cases. Often this also leads to hacking interfaces or writing tricky new semantics on top of more general interfaces in order to get access

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Musachy Barroso
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Martin Coopermart...@apache.org wrote: Also, are all of the existing XWork committers already Struts committers? If not, what do we plan to do about that? I haven't checked all the committers, but the active committers are. I think that making xwork a

Re: stealing code and other cool stuff

2009-08-10 Thread Musachy Barroso
The JSP plugin can now serve JSPs from inside OSGi bundles (using our OSGi plugin). I am not sure how useless this is, but it is fun. musachy -- Hey you! Would you help me to carry the stone? Pink Floyd - To unsubscribe,

Re: [VOTE] Move JSON plugin to trunk

2009-08-10 Thread Musachy Barroso
ok the json plugin has landed in trunk. musachy On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Rene Gielengie...@it-neering.net wrote: +1 Musachy Barroso schrieb: I think the JSON plugin is ready to be moved to trunk, here is my +1. musachy -- René Gielen IT-Neering.net Saarstrasse 100, 52062

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Martin Coopermart...@apache.org wrote: If we bring it here and embed it within the Struts 2 core, then it will become part of the Struts 2 release, but will no longer be available as an independent entity. This means it probably will not be usable outside of

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Wendy Smoak wsm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Martin Coopermart...@apache.org wrote: If we bring it here and embed it within the Struts 2 core, then it will become part of the Struts 2 release, but will no longer be available as an

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Musachy Barroso
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Martin Coopermart...@apache.org wrote: So, assuming the XWork-consuming developer is not using Maven (sorry, Wendy, but that's still most of the world ;), are we planning on providing separate download links on our web site for *pieces* of our releases, then?

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Paul Benedict
If XWork can remain as an independent Maven project, that's good enough for me. I don't care if it gets built only when Struts gets built. I just hope we don't import Struts into XWork. So I am +1 with Musachy. Paul On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote: On

RE: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Jason Pyeron
-Original Message- From: paulus.benedic...@gmail.com [mailto:paulus.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 16:29 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?) If XWork can remain as an independent

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Musachy Barroso
I think we have a consensus on bringing XWork in, but we still have to get to an agreement on where it will actually land (inside core vs its own artifact), can we get the IP clearing process rolling? musachy - To unsubscribe,

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Paul Benedict
To say it has no value outside of Struts, I believe, downplays its ability to be an independent framework / dependency injection container. I am not for binding it to Struts. I would vote for being it's own independent Maven module or vote for it to join Apache Commons. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Musachy Barroso
Although I agree in theory, looking at it from a practical point of view, that wouldn't make sense. Nobody seems to be interested in using XWork outside Struts(yes, yes except that dude), and the proof is that it didn't actually work until the other day. Why would we try to support something for

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Martin Coopermart...@apache.org wrote: So, assuming the XWork-consuming developer is not using Maven (sorry, Wendy, but that's still most of the world ;), are we planning on

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Cooper
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote: Although I agree in theory, looking at it from a practical point of view, that wouldn't make sense. Nobody seems to be interested in using XWork outside Struts(yes, yes except that dude), and the proof is that it didn't

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Don Brown
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Martin Coopermart...@apache.org wrote: OK, here's a question that's been on my mind for a while. Why is it that, for almost every S2 release, we need to make changes to something as core as XWork? Why isn't XWork stable enough by now that we don't have to be

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Paul Benedict
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Don Brown donald.br...@gmail.com wrote: By forking XWork, we can a) bring core Struts 2 code into the project where it belongs and b) still leave it available for other users in OpenSymphony. If you fork XWork, it obviously won't be XWork anymore. If that's

Re: Let's kill xwork (was Re: 2.1.8 release?)

2009-08-10 Thread Don Brown
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Paul Benedictpbened...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Don Brown donald.br...@gmail.com wrote: By forking XWork, we can a) bring core Struts 2 code into the project where it belongs and b) still leave it available for other users in