Re: Spam Moderation

[daemeon reiydelle]

In spite of what was intended to be an out of channel email (thank you
gmail for deciding to change the email address, grr ;{)

I both recognize that these resources exist, think that they are not
appropriate for this channel, but think they ARE appropriate "in some other
channel". Given the number of recruiters who contact me based on my (more
intelligent at times) postings to this list, there IS a wider audience
listening to this than we think. Therefore I thought it interesting and
insightful to hear the responses.

I agree it is off topic, but IMO do not consider it spam.


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*Daemeon C.M. ReiydelleUSA (+1) 415.501.0198London (+44) (0) 20 8144 9872*

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Eric Evans 
wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Michael Shuler 
> wrote:
> > I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new
> > message..
> >
> > Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message
> > identify themselves and possibly explain how that was seen as a valid
> > message about the development of Apache Cassandra?
>
> TL;DR That would be me.
>
> My policy in moderating this list has always been to ignore the
> obvious spam, and default to letting everything else through.  IMO, to
> apply judgment beyond that is a very slippery slope.  Transparency and
> openness are more important to me than protecting everyone from the
> occasional false-positive spam and/or possibly off-topic message.
>
> I also bang through the messages in the queue pretty quickly and make
> the Obvious Spam -or- not judgement almost reflexively.  In this case,
> I guess the lack of HTML, images, or attachments, along with the
> presence of words like "Datastax", and "client" triggered a snap Not
> Spam reaction and I sent it through.
>
> But at least some of the reaction here seems to extend beyond a simple
> matter of a spam message on the list (that has happened before); Some
> here seem to be reacting out of concern to the very existence of the
> email, which makes me think it's precisely the sort of thing that
> shouldn't be kept hidden.
>
>
> --
> Eric Evans
> john.eric.ev...@gmail.com
>

Re: Spam Moderation

[Eric Evans]

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Michael Shuler  wrote:
> I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new
> message..
>
> Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message
> identify themselves and possibly explain how that was seen as a valid
> message about the development of Apache Cassandra?

TL;DR That would be me.

My policy in moderating this list has always been to ignore the
obvious spam, and default to letting everything else through.  IMO, to
apply judgment beyond that is a very slippery slope.  Transparency and
openness are more important to me than protecting everyone from the
occasional false-positive spam and/or possibly off-topic message.

I also bang through the messages in the queue pretty quickly and make
the Obvious Spam -or- not judgement almost reflexively.  In this case,
I guess the lack of HTML, images, or attachments, along with the
presence of words like "Datastax", and "client" triggered a snap Not
Spam reaction and I sent it through.

But at least some of the reaction here seems to extend beyond a simple
matter of a spam message on the list (that has happened before); Some
here seem to be reacting out of concern to the very existence of the
email, which makes me think it's precisely the sort of thing that
shouldn't be kept hidden.


-- 
Eric Evans
john.eric.ev...@gmail.com

Re: Spam Moderation

[Michael Shuler]

No replies, please.

This was resolved privately and was a simple mistake.

-- 
Kind regards,
Michael

Re: Spam Moderation

[Edward Capriolo]

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Daryl Hawken 
wrote:

> +1.
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Shuler 
> wrote:
>
> > I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new
> > message..
> >
> > Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message
> > identify themselves and possibly explain how that was seen as a valid
> > message about the development of Apache Cassandra?
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> > Michael
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *Most people have more than the average number of legs*
>

While the dev list is not clearly the place, and ithe email is spam looking
it is interesting to know that someone is marketing such a list. I have
spoken at different events an those entities likely have my email so I am
curious about the list.

I think the situation is much like the "Free bsd backdoor emails"
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech=129236621626462=2 . IE even if you
believe  99.999% the info untrue do you pass the info along?

Re: Spam Moderation

[Daryl Hawken]

+1.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Shuler 
wrote:

> I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new
> message..
>
> Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message
> identify themselves and possibly explain how that was seen as a valid
> message about the development of Apache Cassandra?
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Michael
>



-- 
*Most people have more than the average number of legs*