Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

Hello, On 01/16/2017 03:11 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: > Hello, > > The latest nfs-utils release drastically changes how the NFS > servers are configured, for the good IMHO... > > All daemon configuration now goes through /etc/nfs.conf. > See nfs.conf(5) for details. > > The command line

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

Unless somebody's created an /etc/nfs.conf file, we should assume they're still using /etc/sysconfig/nfs. That shouldn't be difficult, and I don't see why we can't do that indefinitely. The goal should definitely be not to break any working setups on upgrade. --b. On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On 01/16/2017 06:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 05:38:03PM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: >>> If there's going to be breakage, i.e. no migration tool or script, >>> then that can't apply retroactively. Just silently breaking Fedora 25 >>> is not OK, I predict only widespread

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

Hi, > > A hard break for Fedora 26 or 27 still makes me wonder why there's no > > migration tool or script, rather than expect people with possibly > > complex setups to have to redo configuration by hand? > Yes.. this is the problem.. How does one migrate from one configuration > model to

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

Ideally the package should have an upgrade script included to translate any values set in /etc/sysconfig/nfs into /etc/nfs.conf. I also believe it would be best to hold off any breaking changes until Fedora 26. On 1/16/17 5:24 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: > I can't agree with this more... How does

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 05:38:03PM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > > If there's going to be breakage, i.e. no migration tool or script, > > then that can't apply retroactively. Just silently breaking Fedora 25 > > is not OK, I predict only widespread irritation. > No.. breaking f25 will not

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On 01/16/2017 05:16 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > It's definitely a change. > > If there's going to be breakage, i.e. no migration tool or script, > then that can't apply retroactively. Just silently breaking Fedora 25 > is not OK, I predict only widespread irritation. No.. breaking f25 will not

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 05:24:28PM -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: > Understood... I see this as similar to migrating from the SysV init > scripts to systemd... what of tools where there for that? I didn't > see many... which is fine. Well, systemd offers backwards compatibility — old-style init

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On 01/16/2017 04:58 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: >> >> On 01/16/2017 03:25 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: Hello, The latest nfs-utils release

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

It's definitely a change. If there's going to be breakage, i.e. no migration tool or script, then that can't apply retroactively. Just silently breaking Fedora 25 is not OK, I predict only widespread irritation. A hard break for Fedora 26 or 27 still makes me wonder why there's no migration tool

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: > > > On 01/16/2017 03:25 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> The latest nfs-utils release drastically changes how the NFS >>> servers are

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

Steve, The change process is documented at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy The release notes beats writers will generally search the change list for changes relevant to their beat. The change proposal template includes a place for you to draft a release note or include information

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On 01/16/2017 03:25 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: >> Hello, >> >> The latest nfs-utils release drastically changes how the NFS >> servers are configured, for the good IMHO... >> >> All daemon configuration now goes through

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On 01/16/2017 03:24 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: > This strikes me as something that really should go through the change > process. Based on the schedule, you could still get into Rawhide for > eventual inclusion in f26. I'll be more than willing to do that.. Please advise. > As for documenting, it

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 15:11 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote: Hello, The latest nfs-utils release drastically changes how the NFS servers are configured, for the good IMHO... All daemon configuration now goes through /etc/nfs.conf. See nfs.conf(5) for details. The command line interfaces in the

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: > Hello, > > The latest nfs-utils release drastically changes how the NFS > servers are configured, for the good IMHO... > > All daemon configuration now goes through /etc/nfs.conf. > See nfs.conf(5) for details. > > The

Re: nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

This strikes me as something that really should go through the change process. Based on the schedule, you could still get into Rawhide for eventual inclusion in f26. As for documenting, it should definitely get a release note that gives at least some description of the change. If there are more

nfs-utils-2.1.1 Changes Everything!

Hello, The latest nfs-utils release drastically changes how the NFS servers are configured, for the good IMHO... All daemon configuration now goes through /etc/nfs.conf. See nfs.conf(5) for details. The command line interfaces in the systemd services files have been removed. Which means all