Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Zoltán Lutor
But if there was an in-app-purchase system, it wouldn't be so bad :) yes... Having built-in IAP is a must if we want some monetization. And lack of it would reduce attractivity of the platform toward developers... 2013/11/6 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com It's not a pity when it comes

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Karl Granström
Ahoy, thank you for all the interest in the Harbour. First of all a big apology for for the problems that we are having here at Harbour - we faced some unexpected issues due to a small storm that passed by and are working hard to resolve them. We will keep you posted when you can dock again to

[SailfishDevel] No decoder available for type 'video/x-h264' in SDK

2013-11-07 Thread Daniel Piotrowski
Hello everyone, I repeat the question I have a problem with a component video I want to play video in MP4 format but, unfortunately, after compiling the code I get the message No decoder available for type 'video/x-h264' in SDK …” In emulator I have uploaded all the codecs using command

[SailfishDevel] Emoji in Sailfish

2013-11-07 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
Will be Emoji supported by Sailfish internally by Silica components at real devices? Or we should start prepare hacks for components for custom Emoji support? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list

[SailfishDevel] error: Unknown module(s) in QT: serialport

2013-11-07 Thread Wim de Vries
Hi, Have been away sometime. Installed the latest SDK: Qt5.1. 5.1 supports Qt Serial Port, but somehow not in the Sailfish version. Any hints? Thanks. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Marcin M.
Well, the whole problem with repos and deps is not about the user side but the server side ;) Maemo.org doesn't expose DiffIndex like Debian does but normal Packages and Release (maybe compressed). DiffIndex would greatly reduce download time. About the storing list of apps on-device... Hmm... In

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Attila Csipa
On 07-Nov-13 12:06, Marcin M. wrote: Well, the whole problem with repos and deps is not about the user side but the server side ;) Maemo.org doesn't expose DiffIndex like Debian does but normal Packages and Release (maybe compressed). DiffIndex would greatly reduce download time. It's like the

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread martin . kolman
The same question - those two seem to be a direct contradiction. BTW another counterexample: On BB10 you can't even read the stdout log of signed apps, making debuging of signed applications very difficult. Dne 07.11.2013 21:09 napsal uživatel Attila Csipa: On 07-Nov-13 01:42, Jonni Rainisto

[SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Michal Jerz
Hi Ronni, Thank you very much for your reply. The only thing that worries me is how you wrote: Currently Jolla Harbour only supports free applications. We are working hard on adding copy protection and application payment support in the future. More details will be published when

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Jonni Rainisto
DRM has nothing to to do with with copy protection. DRM on mobile devices usually means supporting DRM PlayReady (Microsoft) or Widevine L1 L2 L3 L4 (google). And we dont have those in Sailfish OS. There is no Aegis on the system, and after you enable developer mode, you have _true_ root

[SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Michal Jerz
Attila wrote: In the context of Will you support DRM? No in your FAQ, and having an open, hackable device environment, please do elaborate. I sincerely hope that Jolla has learned from the Aegis experience and general success of copy-protection schemes on other platforms. When asking the

[SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Michal Jerz
Ronni wrote: copy protection library is just supposed to make cracking and copying process hard enough so that most of the people will just choose to use store for getting their rpm's. And to give app developers easier ways to give some protection their applications so direct .rpm file copy

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Attila Csipa
On 07-Nov-13 13:40, Jonni Rainisto wrote: DRM has nothing to to do with with copy protection. Copy protection *is* one of the cornerstones of DRM (which, arguably, is a lot broader term). Feel free to check wikipedia :) Hopefully that answered your question. Not quite :) What I'm

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Attila Csipa
On 07-Nov-13 13:42, Michal Jerz wrote: So it's like with door locks. Despite none of them being 100% proof to unauthorized opening, somehow people continue to use them in their doors rather than just having doors without any locks only because they're not 100% secure. They at least REDUCE abuse.

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Mohammed Hassan
Hi Attila, On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 03:03:21PM -0800, Attila Csipa wrote: [...] Hopefully that answered your question. Not quite :) What I'm interested in is what *will* be there (or, rather, what resources will it limit) as opposed to what is NOT going to be there (whether not having Aegis

[SailfishDevel] Qt5Svg missing on the x86 SailfishOS image?

2013-11-07 Thread Alessandro Portale
Hi, my application which I am preparing for the store uses Qts Svg module. Compilation in the SDK works fine since I added QT += svg to the main .pro file. Deploying/running fails however, although I added - Qt5Svg to the PkgConfigBR section in the .yaml file. Error message when deploying by

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Attila Csipa
On 07-Nov-13 15:51, Mohammed Hassan wrote: Not quite :) What I'm interested in is what *will* be there (or, rather, what resources will it limit) as opposed to what is NOT going to be there (whether not having Aegis there is good, or bad, depends on what you will have there instead is better or

[SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Michal Jerz
Attila wrote: Without serious research, I will contest that as wishful thinking. [...] If existing stores are anything to go by, the *ease* of how easily one can legally get to your content (at the micro-pricing levels) will, in effect, dwarf the impact of any DRM scheme. Well, as

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Attila Csipa
On 07-Nov-13 17:31, Michal Jerz wrote: Well, as Ronni wrote, using their copy-protection library is going to be entirely OPTIONAL, so its existence should not hurt anyone That will depend on what it actually does, and what kind of support it requires from the system. At the most benign

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Tone Kastlunger
From what I understand, copy protection is going to be a service on Jolla devices (usable by applications which like to do so), but not completely necessary, ie an application can choose if to rely on it or not. Is this correct? On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Attila Csipa q...@csipa.in.rs

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Harbour and Jolla Store

2013-11-07 Thread Jonni Rainisto
That's good, but what I don't get in that case is... does that coincidentally mean enable developer mode == disable copy protection? It doesn't mean that. It will be lightweight, does not limit resources and does not care what mode you are on. People will just have to wait for untill its ready