Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:06:48PM -0800, Kendall Bennett wrote: Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feigning erudition, Kendall Bennett wrote: % Hi Guys, % % Is thete any documentation on the XRENDER extension and more specifically % the Matrox implementation of it? Do any other

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:40:18PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:25:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:27:50PM +0200, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote: Greatly encouraged by your response, thanks! Someone reported that X works with the multi-head

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:12:32PM -0600, jkjellman wrote: Absolutely right, but ... This can be done if two servers are used. The point I was making earlier in this thread was that used hacked kernels and servers are a bad thing. If two consoles (including keyboards) could be operated on

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 10:47:39PM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: How do you imagine this would work when both head are using a shared accel (XAA or DRI) engine ? I thought that the whole point of the kernel DRI was to stop multiple apps from fighting over the hardware. If the X server

Re: ATI with cvs

2003-02-27 Thread dunk
ati isn't a driver, it is a wrapper around the other 3 real ATI drivers. The correct driver for any Radeon based chip is radeon. Using the ati driver wrapper merely autodetects the card and calls the radeon driver. Either should work, but using radeon removes one level of indirection.

xf86cfg: ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

2003-02-27 Thread Stefan Dirsch
Hi Looks like xf86cfg in 4.2.99.902 (most likely also 4.3.0) is broken. At least I see now messages like this. [...] Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a Module GLcore: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.2.99.902, module version = 1.0.0 ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

date.def

2003-02-27 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
xc/config/cf/Imakefile now refers to date.def, and xfree86.cf includes it, but I can't find it in the latest CVS, nor can I find a rule which builds it on the fly. Without this file make World does very little. The Imakefile change appears to be before the 4.2 tag, so we may need to add the

Re: date.def

2003-02-27 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:55:21 +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: xc/config/cf/Imakefile now refers to date.def, and xfree86.cf includes it, but I can't find it in the latest CVS, nor can I find a rule which builds it on the fly. Without this file make World does very little. The

Re: date.def

2003-02-27 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Alan Hourihane wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:55:21 +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: xc/config/cf/Imakefile now refers to date.def, and xfree86.cf includes it, but I can't find it in the latest CVS, nor can I find a rule which builds it on the fly. Without

Re: xf86cfg: ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

2003-02-27 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:35:57PM +0100, Stefan Dirsch wrote: Hi Looks like xf86cfg in 4.2.99.902 (most likely also 4.3.0) is broken. At least I see now messages like this. [...] Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a Module GLcore: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Packard
Around 9 o'clock on Feb 27, Sven Luther wrote: Yes, it would indeed be great if the XAA.HOWTO would be expanded by a new paragraph speaking about the XRENDER acceleration hooks. There is already the xaa.h which gives some info, but a discution of the hooks would be welcome. The current

Re: repeated X restarts with i810 not freeing sys resources?

2003-02-27 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, David Dawes wrote: Yep, RH7.3 with its default kernel plus the agpgart driver referenced above. Could you try your setup using that agpgart driver? That might help narrow down if the problem lies there or elsewhere. I don't see how the problem could be anywhere other

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it would indeed be great if the XAA.HOWTO would be expanded by a new paragraph speaking about the XRENDER acceleration hooks. There is already the xaa.h which gives some info, but a discution of the hooks would be welcome. The current Render

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Packard
Around 10 o'clock on Feb 27, Kendall Bennett wrote: Ok, so it is a little early yet to start implementing this in our drivers? Or should we just implement what the Matrox driver is doing and follow that model for now (ie: just alpha blits)? I think the interfaces currently provided by XAA

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the interfaces currently provided by XAA will probably remain usable, so you might as well implement them. Ok. Plus, we should have XAA expose special higher level functions for glyph rendering to the driver so that the graphics card can use

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Packard
Around 11 o'clock on Feb 27, Kendall Bennett wrote: So fast, efficient text could be done in XFree86 if a single function was used to transfer an entire bitmap in the driver code (pre-clipping could easily be done before the driver code is called), and some high level code to maintain and

Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread Paul Evans
Is there not a spam filter for this kind of thing? -- Paul Evans (3rd Year CompSci at Pembroke College, Cambridge, England) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (university) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternate) ICQ# 4135350 Registered Linux User: 179460 http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pe208/

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote: Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the interfaces currently provided by XAA will probably remain usable, so you might as well implement them. Ok. Plus, we should have XAA expose special higher level functions for glyph

Fw: OOM problem

2003-02-27 Thread Axel
it is a font problem, but i don' t know if it is a misconfigured file or a bug so i forward to devel . (it would surprise me if it s a bug) I just installed the 4.3.0 release (from cvs, xf-4_3_0 tag) no error at compilation or at install I didn ' t change the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf file so

Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 03:14:35PM -0500, Mark Vojkovich wrote: I believe there already is. It seems to be letting alot of stuff through these days, but I expect it's nothing compared to what would happen if it were turned off. That's for sure. I get to see what the filter blocks, and there

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you guys talking about? XAA already has hooks all over the place. Yes, it does! Now that I am learning more about this I am happy to see that someone saw fit to make it so XAA drivers can hook stuff at many levels. Very cool. It should be

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So fast, efficient text could be done in XFree86 if a single function was used to transfer an entire bitmap in the driver code (pre-clipping could easily be done before the driver code is called), and some high level code to maintain and render

Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's for sure. I get to see what the filter blocks, and there are many days when it would totally overwhelm the valid list traffic. What software are you using for SPAM filtering? We are using Spam Assassin now on our new mail server (about to switch

Re: xf86cfg: ERROR SIGSEGV caught!

2003-02-27 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 09:51:15AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: Around 16 o'clock on Feb 27, Stefan Dirsch wrote: No. Will be some work to extract the CVS diff for me. So you can't reproduce this problem with 4.3.0? I'll have a try with 4.3.0 now before looking deeper into this issue.

Re: Debugging in RH8?

2003-02-27 Thread Paul Flinders
Mike A. Harris wrote: Also, we are attempting to get XFree86 debug support integrated into future FSF gdb. The major holdup is basically nobody knows who the original authors of the patches were from way back when for proper attribution and copyright assignment and all the other joys the FSF

Monitor section in config file?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Hi Guys, I see that sometimes the monitor section in the XF86Config file has a 'DisplaySize' value enabled (values like 400 300 seem typical). What is that value supposed to be? Is it the viewable size of the screen in millimeters or something? I assume it is optional? Also where do I find

Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:33:32PM -0800, Kendall Bennett wrote: David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's for sure. I get to see what the filter blocks, and there are many days when it would totally overwhelm the valid list traffic. What software are you using for SPAM filtering? We are

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you guys talking about? XAA already has hooks all over the place. Yes, it does! Now that I am learning more about this I am happy to see that someone saw fit to make it so XAA drivers can

Re: Debugging in RH8?

2003-02-27 Thread Gerd Knorr
Paul Flinders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a record of one patch from Gerd Knorr (then [EMAIL PROTECTED]) which was the PPC port, Still reading here :) Merging this stuff into fsf gdb is fine with me. Gerd ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Owen Taylor
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 14:42, Keith Packard wrote: Granted, if you have hardware alpha blits that will be the fastest way to do this. But if you don't have hardware alpha blits (and lots of cards supported by XFree86 do not), you can still speed up anti-aliased text quite a lot by

Input driver communication with calibration application?

2003-02-27 Thread Burt Bicksler
Hi, I'm working with a touch screen driver in XFree86 4.0.x.. and I have need to communicate with the touch screen driver from an X application that is used for calibration. Specifically I want to be able to turn off existing calibration, and then give the driver updated configuration after

Re: Work in the sun

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What software are you using for SPAM filtering? We are using Spam Assassin now on our new mail server (about to switch over today!) and it seems to work pretty well (especially with the Bayesian filter enabled). A combination of spam assassin and a

Another RENDER question

2003-02-27 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
The hardware I am dealing with does not support ARGB textures (at least not in 2D level, and I don't want to mess with DRI), but alpha blended bit blits. The difference being: While ARGB textures contain an alpha value for each pixel, the alpha blended bit blits render with a static alpha

Re: Another RENDER question

2003-02-27 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Thomas Winischhofer wrote: The hardware I am dealing with does not support ARGB textures (at least not in 2D level, and I don't want to mess with DRI), but alpha blended bit blits. The difference being: While ARGB textures contain an alpha value for each pixel, the

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Kendall Bennett
Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We do. We have our own device driver abstraction layer and using the low level XAA functions does not map at all well to our driver modle. Hence hooking at the next level up (MID) will allow us to avoid the overheads of translating between the

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Matt Wilson
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 05:01:19PM -0500, Owen Taylor wrote: (*) There are two levels of server-side optimization you can do for text-on-constant-background. Well, we can start with even more simple optimizations, like not doing the compositing when the clip region is empty. Currently if

Re: Monitor section in config file?

2003-02-27 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Kendall Bennett wrote: Also where do I find the docs on the XF86Config file format. I need to read up some more on this. man XF86Config I see that sometimes the monitor section in the XF86Config file has a 'DisplaySize' value enabled (values like 400 300 seem

Xfree supports Hppa ?

2003-02-27 Thread Stephane Wirtel
Hi all, Is there a port of Xfree for HPPA 7100LC ? Because, It's unable to compile correcty Xfree86 on this CPU. The compilation is OK, but i would like to use XFree86 -configure to configure my Xfree server, I have theses errors : Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type 4

Re: XRENDER extension docs?

2003-02-27 Thread Keith Packard
Around 23 o'clock on Feb 27, Matt Wilson wrote: Well, we can start with even more simple optimizations, like not doing the compositing when the clip region is empty. Yeah, that would help in some cases. One does have to be careful to keep backing store working though. -keith

How to make cursor invisible

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Woerle Paceblade/Support
Hi i now that this might be a silly qestion but i try: I am doing a calibration utility for our touchscreen ... now i want to become the cursor invisible when runnning my calibration . I ve read once upon a time some code which did that but i dont find it anymore ... i remmeber that i have to

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Aivils . Stoss
Hi, all Long time I maintain Linux 2.4.XX kernel tree , wich support multiple consoles. Ground priciple: linus tree kernel has 64 virtual consoles == virtual terminal. All 64 accessible by one user. Tuned 2.4.XX-backstreet-ruby kernel has same 64 virtual consoles but one user can use only