Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: Hi, Your E Sale (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers based on e-smith distro without any reference. Is that alowed to put your own brand to it? Jaap -- Please

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Brian Luerssen
Unless they have modified gpl sourcecode, at which point they are obligated (i think..) to release their changes/improvements back to the world. Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: Hi, Your E

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it is gpl stuff only, in a word: yes. On Monday 29 December 2003 10:04 am, Jaap van Hemert wrote: Hi, Your E Sale (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers based on e-smith distro without any reference. Is that

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread John Cusick
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 10:04, Jaap van Hemert wrote: Hi, Your E Sale (http://youresale.com/) sels/ships four types of YES servers based on e-smith distro without any reference. Wow... I thought Mitel's Partnership program was expensive for a MaPs (to use the ESALE term for Mom and Pop shop)

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
As to the distribution in question, one would need to examine the software in more detail to verify compliance with the GPL. As you can see here: http://youresale.com/products/yes_license_agreement.php they 1) inform their customers that the GPL applies to some included software

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Charlie Brady
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Richard Morrell wrote: I am guilty of this - wholesale. That's an interesting public admission. SW Corporate products use GPL components and don't breach the GPL but its a fine line. It really is. SmoothWall corporate products take GPL code and make it proprietary.

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Charlie Brady wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Richard Morrell wrote: I am guilty of this - wholesale. That's an interesting public admission. Thats why I made it, its not an admission - SW doesn't breach the GPL, what it does do is not clearly make available modifications. What it

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 12:50 pm, Charlie Brady wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, John Cusick wrote: Were you about to make a comment, or was this a subtle comment on the excessive top-posting and lack of cleaning up previous messages? :-) Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment,

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounced and then asked to not discuss this anymore on this dev-list the very last time such a topic came up. I guess it is who makes a comment more than what is being said that matters here. Sigh. Bob Finch Freedom of speech is

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Mike Sensney
At 11:48 AM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, and I hit the wrong button. Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounced and then asked to not discuss this anymore on this dev-list the very last time

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Jaap van Hemert
be wrong. Thanks for the answer(s) Jaap -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Mike Sensney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2003 23:33 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed? At 11:48 AM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 05:32 pm, Mike Sensney wrote: At 11:48 AM 12/29/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, my mistake. I was going to make a comment, but coffee arrived, and I hit the wrong button. Just a quick comment to point out I was rather roundly trounced and then

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Rasjid Wilcox
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 02:35, Brian Luerssen wrote: Unless they have modified gpl sourcecode, at which point they are obligated (i think..) to release their changes/improvements back to the world. To the best of my knowledge (IANAL), if the source is distributed with the product at the

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. Bob, I like what Clark Connect and their CEO stand for, he's a great guy who I respect a lot, however the

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Hsing-Foo Wang
IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. This sounds like you still do not agree / believe / feel that Mitel unsupported developers release is GPL

RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Jaap van Hemert
you what you need to know. Very best regards; Bob Finch Thanks for the answer(s) Jaap -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Mike Sensney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 29 december 2003 23:33 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 07:02 pm, Richard Morrell wrote: IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. Bob, I like what Clark Connect and their CEO stand

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
Hey Ricard; Thanxs for the very polite reply. Well I was referring to 2.1 which has been out for almost a month now. It is a good product and seems very solid to me. YMMV of course. I agree that 2.0 was less than stellar, but the clark staff also was quick to point out that it was an

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
On Monday 29 December 2003 07:05 pm, you wrote: IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. This sounds like you still do not agree / believe / feel that

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread w9ya
(PE1RHB) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 30 december 2003 0:57 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed? On Monday 29 December 2003 06:29 pm, Jaap van Hemert wrote: Sorry for posting

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Richard Morrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 29 December 2003 07:05 pm, you wrote: IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid AND comforms to GPL completely. This sounds like you still do not

Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this alowed?

2003-12-29 Thread Mike Sensney
On Monday 29 December 2003 05:37 pm, Dick Morrell wrote: Quoting Mike Sensney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sigh. If you really want to think so then so be it. This is a developer's list. It is for people who actually write code to discuss problems they are having and to discuss what they are