[freenet-dev] Freenet doesn't work with java 1.6.0.14??? was Fwd: Re: [freenet-support] freenet

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
f the basic hosting cost, so $18.95/mo. If resource usage is a problem, we could bump it up (on the fly) to 1GB when we expect a slashdot, and pull it back down before the month ends. During that month the cost would be about what we pay for emu now - or rather, our half of what is paid for emu (

[freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
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2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Insert of demand application design

2009-06-04 Thread sich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > You should seriously consider working with infinity0, his searching plugin > will provide distributed indexing. good neews :) > Why are you splitting the files up? Are you assuming that the key changes > every time for

[freenet-dev] Insert of demand application design

2009-06-04 Thread sich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > SSKs are 1KB and have rather high overheads. You need to insert a bunch of > CHKs under the SSK, and to make that safe you need the CHK data to be > encrypted. But also you need it for security, because *the SSK is >

[freenet-dev] Freenet doesn't work with java 1.6.0.14??? was Fwd: Re: [freenet-support] freenet

2009-06-04 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From:?Philip Bych > To:?Matthew Toseland > Date:?Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:46:46 +0100 > Subject:?Re: [freenet-support] freenet > thanks but i have sorted the problem > it was the java update > ?i

[freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
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2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
rent bug tracker (jira, trac etc), we have importing issues but it might be managed. We would still use berlios for mailing lists. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090604/8f1fc7b3/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
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2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread bbac...@googlemail.com
If you really consider sf.net, someone should analyse what they provide. And you should clearly state what you need. The whole discussion is based on assumptions and stuff. Fyi: sf.net has an own donation system, but you don't have to use it. The Frost project directly links to paypal on its

[freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Juiceman
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Nextgens has suggested Google Web Apps more than once. This is a paid service > but with a generous free quota. The free quota will become rather less > generous on June 22nd. Hopefully we will get the release out before then, but > we

[freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r27153 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client/async

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
ive hash (sha256) as identifier for archive manager is an > alternative, > this would allow matadata inclusion (container insert with > reportMatadataOnly=true) I dunno. It seems wasteful to insert a separate CHK for a 2+2 block splitfile, and has poor redundancy, and if we have DHKs then we're inserting 7 blocks for that <64KB file! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090604/e601f89e/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] Shutdown/restart always visible? was Re: Status line???

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
ure!", but it does not > tell the user what should he do. Click on the alert. then click on the link to the security levels page? In terms of usability, I am reluctant to go back to having an explicit warning about opennet after we have introduced the security levels... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090604/b5995a61/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Insert of demand application design

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
more they are predictable and thus can be used by an attacker just like a full reinsert with the original key could be. > The thing is : how would we know the decrypting key in the case we use the > CHKs? Would the CHK change ? In which case, what are the benefits over SSK > (despite the facts that SSKs aren't really designed for that ^^" ) ? The CHKs under the SSK would be unique yes. And you'd have to store the chunk key somewhere. > > > - Using some preview system ? > > > > Maybe. > > > > > WoT-based : > > > - Using WOT can limit the problem for the bootstrap when you have just > > > install the filesharing program. > > > - Using the security of the WOT can help to find people who are > > > publishing fake files. > > > > > > - > > >--- > > > > > > Please don't hesitate to comment. Are we missing some points, is that > > > feasable, will it be too slow, etc... -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090604/97f1f330/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Ian Clarke
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > What bug tracker should we use? Trac? Jira? Lighthouse? Something else? I vote for lighthouse. I've used Mantis, Trac, and Fogbugz, and Lighthouse is better than all. It is simple, user friendly, doesn't impose any particular way of

[freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > On Wednesday, 3. June 2009 19:08:07 Matthew Toseland wrote: >> Web hosting (of static files). Sourceforge provide this, and it should >> perform well. If there is no dynamic code there should be no administrative >> overhead. > >

[freenet-dev] Shutdown/restart always visible? was Re: Status line???

2009-06-04 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 03 June 2009 00:59:55 Daniel Cheng wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Matthew Toseland >> wrote: >> > On Tuesday 02 June 2009 18:24:48 steve wrote: >> >> What good is constantly displaying the security level, unless

[freenet-dev] Insert of demand application design

2009-06-04 Thread Clément
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 23:25:56 Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Tuesday 02 June 2009 19:41:51 clement wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Here is some try from Sich and myself to think about the design for some > > insert on demand application based on the WoT plugin. > > You should seriously consider

Re: [freenet-dev] Insert of demand application design

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 23:25:38 Clément wrote: On Wednesday 03 June 2009 23:25:56 Matthew Toseland wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2009 19:41:51 clement wrote: Hello, Here is some try from Sich and myself to think about the design for some insert on demand application based on the WoT

Re: [freenet-dev] Shutdown/restart always visible? was Re: Status line???

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 04 June 2009 01:27:33 Daniel Cheng wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Wednesday 03 June 2009 00:59:55 Daniel Cheng wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Tuesday 02

Re: [freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 04 June 2009 01:31:46 Daniel Cheng wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Arne Babenhauserheide arne_...@web.de wrote: On Wednesday, 3. June 2009 19:08:07 Matthew Toseland wrote: Web hosting (of static files). Sourceforge provide this, and it should perform well. If there is no

Re: [freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread bbackde
If you really consider sf.net, someone should analyse what they provide. And you should clearly state what you need. The whole discussion is based on assumptions and stuff. Fyi: sf.net has an own donation system, but you don't have to use it. The Frost project directly links to paypal on its

Re: [freenet-dev] [freenet-cvs] r27153 - trunk/freenet/src/freenet/client/async

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 10:15:23 bo-le wrote: Am Mittwoch, 29. April 2009 03:20:48 schrieb Matthew Toseland: On Tuesday 21 April 2009 15:16:55 sa...@freenetproject.org wrote: Author: saces Date: 2009-04-21 14:16:55 + (Tue, 21 Apr 2009) New Revision: 27153 Modified:

Re: [freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 20:21:46 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: On Wednesday, 3. June 2009 19:08:07 Matthew Toseland wrote: Web hosting (of static files). Sourceforge provide this, and it should perform well. If there is no dynamic code there should be no administrative overhead. They

Re: [freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 04 June 2009 12:36:31 bbac...@googlemail.com wrote: If you really consider sf.net, someone should analyse what they provide. And you should clearly state what you need. The whole discussion is based on assumptions and stuff. Fyi: sf.net has an own donation system, but you don't

Re: [freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Nextgens has suggested Google Web Apps more than once. This is a paid service but with a generous free quota. The free quota will become rather less generous on June 22nd. Hopefully we will get the release out before then, but we will definitely have to pay to release 0.8. Details: - 10GB/day

Re: [freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 04 June 2009 14:06:16 Matthew Toseland wrote: Nextgens has suggested Google Web Apps more than once. This is a paid service but with a generous free quota. The free quota will become rather less generous on June 22nd. Hopefully we will get the release out before then, but we

Re: [freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
On Thursday, 4. June 2009 14:58:35 Matthew Toseland wrote: Can you elaborate on this? Are you saying that the only way to take donations with sourceforge is through sourceforge's donations system? That could cost us a significant amount of money... That's what I read in their docs: --

[freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
Essentially the problems are: 1. Hosting the static web site and files. This includes web hosting, hosting big files, fixed redirects over SSL, etc. It may involve moving from https://checksums to somewhere else, but it will still have to include SSL. This can be solved fairly easily with

Re: [freenet-dev] Insert of demand application design

2009-06-04 Thread sich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Toseland a écrit : SSKs are 1KB and have rather high overheads. You need to insert a bunch of CHKs under the SSK, and to make that safe you need the CHK data to be encrypted. But also you need it for security, because *the SSK is

Re: [freenet-dev] Insert of demand application design

2009-06-04 Thread sich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Toseland a écrit : You should seriously consider working with infinity0, his searching plugin will provide distributed indexing. good neews :) Why are you splitting the files up? Are you assuming that the key changes every time for

Re: [freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Ian Clarke
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: What bug tracker should we use? Trac? Jira? Lighthouse? Something else? I vote for lighthouse. I've used Mantis, Trac, and Fogbugz, and Lighthouse is better than all. It is simple, user friendly, doesn't impose

Re: [freenet-dev] Getting rid of emu: an option

2009-06-04 Thread Juiceman
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: Nextgens has suggested Google Web Apps more than once. This is a paid service but with a generous free quota. The free quota will become rather less generous on June 22nd. Hopefully we will get the release out

Re: [freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 04 June 2009 15:51:31 Matthew Toseland wrote: Essentially the problems are: 1. Hosting the static web site and files. This includes web hosting, hosting big files, fixed redirects over SSL, etc. It may involve moving from https://checksums to somewhere else, but it will still

Re: [freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 04 June 2009 17:08:22 Ian Clarke wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: What bug tracker should we use? Trac? Jira? Lighthouse? Something else? I vote for lighthouse. I've used Mantis, Trac, and Fogbugz, and Lighthouse is

Re: [freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 04 June 2009 19:01:47 Matthew Toseland wrote: On Thursday 04 June 2009 15:51:31 Matthew Toseland wrote: Essentially the problems are: 1. Hosting the static web site and files. This includes web hosting, hosting big files, fixed redirects over SSL, etc. It may involve moving

[freenet-dev] Freenet doesn't work with java 1.6.0.14??? was Fwd: Re: [freenet-support] freenet

2009-06-04 Thread Matthew Toseland
---BeginMessage--- thanks but i have sorted the problem it was the java update i updated java runtime to the latest 1.6.0.14 and it seems that freenet does not work with this so i have reinstalled java 1.6.0.13 and uninstalled then reinstalled freenet all works fine as long as i do not update

Re: [freenet-dev] Freenet doesn't work with java 1.6.0.14??? was Fwd: Re: [freenet-support] freenet

2009-06-04 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Philip Bych pot...@googlemail.com To: Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:46:46 +0100 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] freenet

Re: [freenet-dev] Trying to move forward on getting rid of emu

2009-06-04 Thread Daniel Cheng
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Thursday 04 June 2009 17:08:22 Ian Clarke wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: What bug tracker should we use? Trac? Jira? Lighthouse? Something else? I