[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

2000-08-22 Thread Travis Bemann
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[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

2000-08-22 Thread Travis Bemann
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[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

2000-08-22 Thread Signal 11
That gave me an idea.. what about an IRC conference between reporters and the freenet developers? Give them a chance to see the other half of copyright law.. -- Signal 11 -o- BOFH, boredengineers.com Education is the best defense against the media.

[Freenet-dev] Spanish translation

2000-08-22 Thread Sebastian Späth
Fernando Tolosana wrote: > > I'd like to offer to translate Freenet gui into Spanish, is this > important? Do you mean the GUI frontend from Freenetgui.com? In this case it would be the wrong place here to ask, you'll have to ask the developer himself. The officiell Freenet version won't include

[Freenet-dev] Re: Associating a public key with node addresses

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:38:26PM +0200, Neil Barsema wrote: <> > No, it is not about storing data in more places I can imagine using an > unrequest feature to stop the losing path from actually caching the data > (or a commit to the winnig path) although I'm not sure its worth it. > Its not that

[Freenet-dev] size limits

2000-08-22 Thread Theodore Hong
Oskar Sandberg wrote: > This would be an absolute limit, so having it configurable makes no > sense. If somebody sets it down, there node would be very broken indeed > since it would be unable to pass DataReply's that other nodes expected it > to. > > The absolute limit for the length of data

[Freenet-dev] [offtopic] Weird Linux problem

2000-08-22 Thread Ian Clarke
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[Freenet-dev] Re: Associating a public key with node addresses

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:37:25AM +0200, Neil Barsema wrote: > > Bob is slow and routes the request onward, finding the data data with > > David and sends a reply which Alice discards. How is taking David's > > address as the reference on data she retrieved from Charles instead of > > data she

[Freenet-dev] Spanish translation

2000-08-22 Thread Fernando Tolosana
I'd like to offer to translate Freenet gui into Spanish, is this important? Regards Fernando _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Freenet-dev mailing

[Freenet-dev] invitation to Brussels (fwd)

2000-08-22 Thread Brandon
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:30:47 +0200 From: COPY.CULT original SIgN To: blanu at users.sourceforge.net Subject: invitation to Brussels to the freenet people >From the 25th of September to the 2nd of October, we organise in

[Freenet-dev] Re: General...

2000-08-22 Thread subo...@aol.com
Well, I'm thinking more in terms of what I've been reading here... http://freenet.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=ideas (and more particular http://freenet.sourceforge.net/mappings.pdf) Which says at the top "This section contains a list of proposed ideas that might get into Freenet at some

[Freenet-dev] size limits

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
This would be an absolute limit, so having it configurable makes no sense. If somebody sets it down, there node would be very broken indeed since it would be unable to pass DataReply's that other nodes expected it to. The absolute limit for the length of data has to be one of the things that

[Freenet-dev] Re: Associating a public key with node addresses

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:23:46AM +0200, Neil Barsema wrote: > Scott and Oskar, > > I'm really touched in your faith in the current routing mechanism, but I > think that if you ignore the physical network Freenetruns on, it will never > be more than an interesting experiment. If it doesn't

[Freenet-dev] Re: Associating a public key with node addresses

2000-08-22 Thread Michael ROGERS
>The problem is that if no reference are being set to you, then having the >data is actually not worth that much. But references *are* being sent to you - that's how you got the original request. Alice still has a pointer to Charles (although the new pointer to Bob/David will diminish the old

[Freenet-dev] Re: Associating a public key with node addresses

2000-08-22 Thread Neil Barsema
Oskar wrote > > This has nothing to do with weighing by connection - your simply saying it > will be faster because the data ends up in more places, which is > completely contrary to the smart routing we are trying to achieve. No, it is not about storing data in more places I can imagine using an

[Freenet-dev] size limits

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
Before we release 0.3, I would like to add some size limits on fields, messages, and the largest datalength tolerated at all. This is rather important for fields and messages since they are read directly into memory (you can probably crash a Freenet node currently by just connecting and sending

[Freenet-dev] take me off your mail list

2000-08-22 Thread Timm Murray
> > --- freenet-dev-admin at lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > > > Send Freenet-dev mailing list submissions to > > freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/freenet-dev

[Freenet-dev] Re: Associating a public key with node addresses

2000-08-22 Thread Neil Barsema
> I never understood what this achieved at all. Say Alice forks a request, > sending one message to Bob and one to Charles (the two closest references > for the key). > > Charles is fast and routes the request onward, finding the data with David > and sends a reply back with the Data and David as

[Freenet-dev] take me off your mail list

2000-08-22 Thread Travis Bemann
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[Freenet-dev] A clear point by point comparison of the metadata formats

2000-08-22 Thread Michael Wiktowy
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:15:15 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Freenet-dev] A clear point by point comparison of the metadata > formats > From: "Scott G. Miller" > > > Why is this an issue? > > Why even separate private data into metadata and data? > Because it allows for complicated metadata to be

[Freenet-dev] Spanish translation

2000-08-22 Thread Will Dye
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:49:34 +0200, Fernando Tolosana writes: > I'd like to offer to translate Freenet gui into Spanish, is this > important? Fernando, Thank you for your interest in Freenet. This list is mostly for the server code, which does not involve graphical user interfaces. The

[Freenet-dev] size limits

2000-08-22 Thread Will Dye
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:52:07 +0700, Oskar Sandberg writes: > Before we release 0.3, I would like to add some size limits on fields, Sounds like a good idea. This should be put in the docs for client authors, then. If the user tries to insert a file that is too big, I'd prefer to catch this

[Freenet-dev] This is London... signing off....

2000-08-22 Thread Ian Clarke
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[Freenet-dev] size limits

2000-08-22 Thread drewar...@aol.com
Movie Files Can Be Bigger But If You Chop It up like a E-Mail into 100meg files and then paste em back 2 gether when it gets 2 the user computer then it's fine ___ Freenet-dev mailing list Freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net

[Freenet-dev] take me off your mail list

2000-08-22 Thread John b Smith
--- freenet-dev-admin at lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > Send Freenet-dev mailing list submissions to > freenet-dev at lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/freenet-dev > or, via email, send a message

[Freenet-dev] Re: Associating a public key with node addresses

2000-08-22 Thread Neil Barsema
Scott and Oskar, I'm really touched in your faith in the current routing mechanism, but I think that if you ignore the physical network Freenetruns on, it will never be more than an interesting experiment. We claim that Freenet moves information to where it is most wanted, as an example we say a

[Freenet-dev] my test on 0.3 (off-topic)

2000-08-22 Thread Henry Hemming
> > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 09:21:59PM +0700, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > > > And we better hope somebody invents a Quantum proof Assymetric algorithm > > > > within the next four years - so that the inevitable patent has time to > > > > expire before our current version grow completely

[Freenet-dev] build 145

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
Clients: - Should return 1 as exit state if there was an error now. - BInsert can read data from stdin, BRequest can write to stdout - If you you use the parameter "-safer yes" it will encrypt all the data that is written to disk by the client with a random session key. Sorry, Steve, but I broke

[Freenet-dev] my test on 0.3

2000-08-22 Thread Signal 11
Okay, I think we've take enough of the developers' time.. We've gone from debugging output to government conspiracies to crypto to quantum mechanics. If this ain't topic drift, I don't know what is. Since we've run out of useful information to add, I suggest that now would be a good time to drop

[Freenet-dev] A clear point by point comparison of the metadata formats

2000-08-22 Thread Brandon
> The sole advantage of my system (besides having all your advantages as > well) is that its easy to detect when you have a freenet-special control > message. A Control-message=yes/no field gives the same advantage and still allows you to have a data section, useful for reasons detailed below.

[Freenet-dev] release date for 0.3

2000-08-22 Thread Ian Clarke
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[Freenet-dev] A clear point by point comparison of the metadata formats

2000-08-22 Thread Brandon
> > No possible namespace collisions between metadata properties and data > > properties. If you combine them then you have assume that the authors of > > metadata schemas and the authors of special Freenet file schemas will > > never pick the same name for a field. > *What* are you *talking

[Freenet-dev] Release date for Freenet 0.3 - 28th Aug 2000

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
Yes, optional and off by default. On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 05:45:25PM +0100, Ian Clarke wrote: > > > That said I still have a bunch of todos. I'm almost done with with the > > disk encryption as discussed this morning > > Is this optional? Is there any reason to be concerned about time >

[Freenet-dev] my test on 0.3

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:07:58AM -0500, Signal 11 wrote: <> > > There are so many creative ways to create pain in people, so regardless of > > spiritual composition your still on the loosing end once your being > > tortured (though a good many of them involve testicles, a problem that can > >

[Freenet-dev] Re: Associating a public key with node addresses

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 04:56:24PM +0100, Michael ROGERS wrote: > >No, it does break the network, because Alice inserts something and it goes > >to her fastest neighbor only, while Bob requests that thing and the > >request goes only to his closest neighbor so he doesn't find it. That is > >what

[Freenet-dev] Writing for large audiences (was: "my test of 0.3")

2000-08-22 Thread Oskar Sandberg
I have found that long letters complaining about the singal to noise ratio (especially quasi-inflamatory ones that demand replies) seldom help improve it. If some of the more pointless arguments (like the whole metadata thing) count as signal, then this list has a very high signal to noise

[Freenet-dev] my test on 0.3 (off-topic)

2000-08-22 Thread 1723
Theodore Hong schrieb: > > Ian Clarke wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 09:21:59PM +0700, Oskar Sandberg wrote: > > > And we better hope somebody invents a Quantum proof Assymetric algorithm > > > within the next four years - so that the inevitable patent has time to > > > expire before our