Re: [digitalradio] New software available for next 070 Club PSKFEST

2007-01-11 Thread o.
Dear friend; How do I get the program. It needs a password and ID Best 73 Omar YK1AO - Original Message - From: EA4ZB To: grupo digitalradio Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: [digitalradio] New software available for next 070 Club PSKFEST Hey

Re: [digitalradio] New software available for next 070 Club PSKFEST

2007-01-11 Thread EA4ZB
Hey all! The correct link is http://www.ea1cui.com/contact-pskV4.5.zip. Install to C:/ hard disk and follows steps: Change language to spanish or english in the menu Select FILES --- OPEN.CREATE LOG (ex: test070club) Select FILES --- CONCURSE MODE --- FIJAR PROGRESIVO ENVIADO. (ex: EA to

Re: [digitalradio] Re: W9AV W3LL W7ZR

2007-01-11 Thread Katy Mulvey
Bill McLaughlin wrote: This happens during most every contestI used to work contests alot when I was younger and had more staminaunderstand the frustrations of many as some contest ops seem to not care about anything other than points. Gentleman's agreements seem to be predicated

Re: [digitalradio] New software available for next 070 Club PSKFEST

2007-01-11 Thread CT2HKY do Gmail
´73's. Colega Salomão e outros, se forem a este link: http://www.ea1cui.com/ tem lá o acesso para descarregar o programa. Também o podem fazer em: ftp://ct2hky.no-ip.biz secção/directório PSK Continuação de muitos e bons contactos. Luis Cavaleiro CT2HKY - Original Message -

Re: [digitalradio] Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread ve3fwf
Hummm: Very interesting and here is a list of suggestions and questions: 1. What OS are you using and what browser? 2. How you tried FireFox or another Web browser? 3. Crack open the taskmanager and see what process (if any) is burning the CPU when you are experiencing the problem. If there is

[digitalradio] Re: Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew O'Brien
As suggested, I am trying Firefox right now rather than IE 7. Hmmm, the problem seems to have gone away. Maybe that was the issue, I will double check with IE7 one more time. Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Re: Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Thanks Bernie, I usually use IE 7 with XP sp2. I am using IE7 to type this message since my test a few minutes ago with Firefox did not replicate the problem. Also looks like IE7 is working OK as I type this. In taskmanger 98 of the CPU is currently listed as system ilde process , alg.exe is

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread Dave Doc
Andy, it looks to me like you may have either a virus or some type of spyware, and that the hard-drive access is eating your lunch. I know you said you scanned for both, but I recall once having a virus that disabled my Mcafee anti-virus, and left it appearing to still work! What programs do you

[digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread KV9U
I am a big proponent of cross platform interoperability and I am tending to continue moving away from anything that tends to not be cross platform. My Firefox web browser, Open Office suite, XnView photo viewing (and others), the free version of the excellent AVG Virus protection which is also

[digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia

2007-01-11 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, may I inject my 2 cents worth. SCS says that Pactor III is 4 times faster than Pactor II and the code would indicate such. Thus the raw channel throughput IS faster and the BER should be

RE: [digitalradio] Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
SVCHOST (svchost.exe) IS a dog and CAN eat up performance on such a short term/time basis that it will never show up in your task manager and perhaps not even as a spike on you CPU performance. The other possibility is that something is running in the background (a ham radio program that you

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia

2007-01-11 Thread kd4e
SCS says that Pactor III is 4 times faster than Pactor II and the code would indicate such. Thus the raw channel throughput IS faster and the BER should be better. But as far as performance goes at varying SNRs will make a difference in throughput. At a -5 dB SNR on the KC7WW channel

[digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread cesco12342000
I often wonder if there is even one ham working on adapting the existing ham DRM type protocol to a pipelined ARQ connected mode that has adaptability to conditions. I think no. The main problem of arq-drm is the very long turnaround time. It's in the 20sec range. This makes normal arq

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread o.
Dear Rick; I am trying to go into LINUX. I very well understand your idea of using a cross platform interoperability. For the past weeks I have been following all LINUX-related subjects on this site. I have discovered that there are so many LINUX versions. Now a question arises here. Is any

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia

2007-01-11 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Demetre, Correction SCS says...On an average channel, PACTOR-III is around 3.5 times faster than PACTOR-II. On good channels, the effective throughput ratio between PACTOR-III and PACTOR-II can exceed 5. PACTOR-III achieves slightly higher robustness at the low SNR edge compared to PACTOR-II.

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread kd4e
So I go back to my main question. Is any application written for one LINUX version capable of operating with another LINUX version? Best 73 Omar YK1AO Most Linux apps are compatible across most other Linux distros. The challenges are three: 1. Dependencies upon other apps. 2. The version

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia

2007-01-11 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
If you looked at the PDF document of KN6KB's measurements, that is what is showes. The only difference between Pactor I, II and III is the throughput (NetByte/minute) at various SNRs. I can only assume that the BER or percent of errors ( zero errors?) was also the same. PIII+10

[digitalradio] donwnload software for 070 club pskfest

2007-01-11 Thread EA4ZB
Hey all: alternative site for download software Contact Psk 4.5 (english and spanish version) here: http://www.ea4zb.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=41 http://www.ea1cui.com/contact-pskV4.5.zip. -- 73 de Joaquin, EA4ZB

Re: [digitalradio] Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread Jose A. Amador
DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: SVCHOST (svchost.exe) IS a dog and CAN eat up performance on such a short term/time basis that it will never show up in your task manager and perhaps not even as a spike on you CPU performance. The other possibility is that something is running in

[digitalradio] Print email

2007-01-11 Thread n0ziz
I can not print email messages from Earthlink Web mail. Iclick the prinable view link and printable message comesup There is to printer Icon. I need a software Read messagetoolbar where can i find tis? Dan N0ZIZ?

Re: [digitalradio] Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread Robert Chudek - KØRC
Jose, Here's a full technical description about this executable and its tasks: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314056 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN - Original Message - From: Jose A. Amador To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread KV9U
Hi Omar, Windows has improved greatly with the XP version, but my preference would be an open product for the world rather than a proprietary product. The MS Vista version(s) looks as if there will be very little improvement although some in the security area as some operations may keep a

Re: [digitalradio] Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread Jose A. Amador
Robert Chudek - KØRC wrote: Jose, Here's a full technical description about this executable and its tasks: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314056 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314056 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN Thank you Bob. I followed the URL and now I see 73, Jose

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia

2007-01-11 Thread KV9U
While this information does not seem to support the SCS claim of working way down to the minus teens of db S/N, it is interesting that in the old days Pactor 1 users claimed that they could get throughput when they could not even hear any suggestion of modulation. I never found this to be

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Salomao Fresco
Hi That's my thought too! If the time and energy used on the development of the many version available were directed to only a few distro's, and make them more user friendly, i'm sure that everybody would benefit from it and more and more people migrate towards Linux. It certainly would help to

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Ing. Nestor Alonso Torres
Salomao Fresco wrote: Hi That's my thought too! If the time and energy used on the development of the many version available were directed to only a few distro's, and make them more user friendly, i'm sure that everybody would benefit from it and more and more people migrate

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia

2007-01-11 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Well I can't hear a CW signal at a -5 dB SNR. Can you? But I don't think minus teens...but that is what some of the newer PSK modes claim. The only thing that will really kill or stop Pactor is excessive amounts of doppler or until the detector can no longer decode the signal. You are

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
IMHO, hams have not said we want this distro to support ham radio so we adopt it. SuSe, Mandrake, Debian and a couple of others cater to amateur radio. My personal leaning is toward Debian and it WAS the first Linux distro. to try and devote itself to being ham radio friendly. The real key

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Ing. Nestor Alonso Torres
DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: What Linux does for one think is make you think about what you are doing and keep you from becoming an appliance operator? How many hams really know how to program their 2M talkie? By the way... Did someone know about any software for 2M equipment

Re: [digitalradio] Odd PC Issue

2007-01-11 Thread Brent Gourley
Here's an article on ms that explains svchost. It appears, if you want services to run, you gotta have svchost. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314056 KE4MZ, Brent Dothan, AL [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wb4zpi.org No trees were destroyed in the sending of this contaminant-free message. However, we do

[digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread jgorman01
That's my one pet peeve about Linux. You go looking for a program to do what you want and find out it is two years old and requires libraries that have been updated 4 times since then. Sometimes trying to find the older libraries is a real challenge. I would love it if everyone would store the

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread kd4e
What Linux does for one think is make you think about what you are doing and keep you from becoming an appliance operator? How many hams really know how to program their 2M talkie? By the way... Did someone know about any software for 2M equipment programming under Linux? 73 de CM3NA

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia

2007-01-11 Thread KV9U
I have seen the claim for a good operator able to copy down to about -15 db S/N for CW operation. Some of the digital soundcard modes are supposed to be able to still have throughput down around -15 depending upon other factors such as doppler, ISI, etc. Using Multipsk, and I don't know how

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Danny Douglas
That is one of the reasons I dont get into Linux. I watched others, stressed out at school, trying to get systems operational and smoothed out. We need things to work at college, not there to be fiddled with, because students have only a certain amount of time to use systems, and expect them to

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread KV9U
How do you determine your specific 20 second turnaround time? Couldn't it be any reasonable number from say 1 second up to maybe 20 seconds? Seems as if the SCAMP protocol was around 12 seconds, but I am not certain of that. Then the listening period was for over a half second. That is the

[digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread cesco12342000
How do you determine your specific 20 second turnaround time? Couldn't it be any reasonable number from say 1 second up to maybe 20 seconds? The time from start of transmission until receiving the first data segment is 10s to 15s. That's the sync-zone, the lead-in. 20 sec is not to be

[digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Dave Bernstein
re What Linux does for one think is make you think about what you are doing and keep you from becoming an appliance operator? How many hams really know how to program their 2M talkie? Using Linux will not teach you to program your 2M talkie, nor will it teach you how to create applications

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread kd4e
My main criticism of Linux is that is has horrific fonts that are not comparable to Windows fonts and the Linux folks try and make believe that this is not a problem when it is a really serious problem for any demonstrations with a Live disk, etc. to people who use computers for practical

Re: [digitalradio] New software available for next 070 Club PSKFEST

2007-01-11 Thread Salomao Fresco
Ok! Obrigado! Já descobri o link correcto e já descarreguei! Um abraço On 1/11/07, CT2HKY do Gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ´73's. Colega Salomão e outros, se forem a este link: http://www.ea1cui.com/ tem lá o acesso para descarregar o programa. Também o podem fazer em:

Re: [digitalradio] New software available for next 070 Club PSKFEST

2007-01-11 Thread EA4ZB
Hey Omar, YK1AO: Alternative site for download Contact Psk 4,5 here: http://www.ea4zb.com/modules.php?name=Downloadsd_op=getitlid=41 Good contest JOAQUIN - EA4ZB 2007/1/10, o. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear friend; How do I get the program. It needs a password and ID Best 73 Omar

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread kd4e
That's my one pet peeve about Linux. You go looking for a program to do what you want and find out it is two years old and requires libraries that have been updated 4 times since then. Sometimes trying to find the older libraries is a real challenge. I would love it if everyone would store

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Danny Douglas
WOW An MIT education for free (well money wise at least). Interesting site, and a place I should visit often- but maybe a bit beyond my comprehension these days. I missed the Navy Reserve Officers Training 4 year scholorship by one lousy point (should have taken the test in Oklahoma, instead of

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread KV9U
I think that for some, the fiddling may be OK. I have spent an unbelievable amount of time over the years on fiddling with C-64's, Apple //e, 286's up to Pentium IV's,with both software and hardware, as I am sure many others here have as well. One of the most difficult things I had to do a

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
And you will find my name in the acknowledgements in the preface as I helped with the course development in its first two years. Gerry was my advisor as well for a while. I heard from him last month, when he finished his new K2. Last year MIT started offering a mixed course for non-majors,

RE: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
If UNIX had been available for $50 instead of $1000 back 20 years ago I doubt that MS would have succeeded in the marketplace. This topic is probably more appropriate on Slashdot than on this Yahoo group, but Windows preeminence on the desktop has nothing to do with the operating system

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-11 Thread John Bradley
I First of all , I'm a dyed-in-the-wool windows user, and make no excuses for that. There are interesting parallels between linnux and windows users, and different users of ham radio.. On one hand you find those who are interested in operating, in communicating and making new contacts around