[digitalradio] rfsm-2400

2008-01-26 Thread Simon Brown
I took a look at http://rfsm2400.radioscanner.ru and was shocked by the price. Is anyone interested in writing a GPL / Open Source implementation of the protocol in C++? Not a full UI, just the rx / tx logic? Simon Brown, HB9DRV

Re: [digitalradio] rfsm-2400

2008-01-26 Thread John Simon
I saw that a couple of weeks ago Simon.Shocked is just one of the words that I thought when I saw it. B-) 73, John de VK2XGJ One of the reasons politicians try so hard to get themselves re-elected, because they couldn't live under the laws

[digitalradio] Re: MP73-N in Europe ?

2008-01-26 Thread ha3dmf
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jens Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:50:00 -, you wrote: Hello Europeans, are there any activities in MP73-N mode in our part of the world ?? I have called on 30m, but no answer so far. Maybe we could arrange a sked?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: MP73-N in Europe ?

2008-01-26 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi all, I am sending pictures and calling CQ on 10.143 in MP73-N mode right now . Hope to see some one ;) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar ha3dmf skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Jens Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2008

Re: [digitalradio] Re: MP73-N in Europe ?

2008-01-26 Thread Steinar Aanesland
QSY 10.132 USB 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Steinar Aanesland skrev: Hi all, I am sending pictures and calling CQ on 10.143 in MP73-N mode right now . Hope to see some one ;) 73 de LA5VNA Steinar ha3dmf skrev: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com

[digitalradio] Re: MP73-N in Europe ?

2008-01-26 Thread ha3dmf
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jens and others. I change frequency for tomorrow testing to 10,144 MHz. Guenter, HA3DMF QSY 10.132 USB 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Steinar Aanesland skrev: Hi all, I am sending pictures and calling

[digitalradio] New Yahoo Group pactor_packet

2008-01-26 Thread Demetre Valaris
Dear friends, You are invited to join the newly formed pactor_packet Yahoogroup where we can discuss, exchange ideas, make skeds for QSOs etc. about PACTOR 1/2/3 and PACKET RADIO. If you know other Radio Amateurs interested in PACTOR and PACKET RADIO please pass the word. 73 de Demetre SV1UY

Re: [digitalradio] rfsm-2400

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Maybe I am missing something. I have the software and have not paid anything. Maybe I have a trial version, will have to check. On Jan 26, 2008 5:26 AM, John Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that a couple of weeks ago Simon. Shocked is just one of the words that I thought when I

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM (Easypal)

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Les. I used the very latest version of Easypal but used the default settings for our quick test last night. I am an experienced user of Hampal, and even with that software there are a lot of useful features not always employed. You are right to point out the features of Easypal , I hope more

Re: [digitalradio] rfsm-2400

2008-01-26 Thread Simon Brown
Even if it's free for Hams (which I hope is the case) we should consider an OpenSource codebase so that it gains wider acceptance? Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe I am missing something. I have the software and have not paid

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Rick
Hi Les, This was the first time I could get anyone to even try the mode as I have been attempting that for some time. From what I can tell, you need to be connected in order to do much with the mode to really do any kind of testing other than perhaps calling a dummy station. In regard to your

[digitalradio] Re: rfsm-2400

2008-01-26 Thread dmitry_d2d
Hello Simon. I took a look at http://rfsm2400.radioscanner.ru and was shocked by the price. I About shocked price. 1. RFSM-2400 is FREEWARE. 2. RFSM-8000 for Hams cost 60 USD. Let's compare similar hardware and software products: - Pactor-3 cost about 1000 USD; - SkySweep Messenger Client Plus

Re: [digitalradio] Re: rfsm-2400

2008-01-26 Thread Simon Brown
Hi Dmitry, Sorry about that, reading your website it is easy to think that there is no freeware version - it is not obvious as the first line of your website says that RFSM-8000 is shareware! Maybe you could add this RFSM-2400 freeware information so that everyone can see it easily? The

[digitalradio] Re: General questions about SSTV

2008-01-26 Thread Phil Wells
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Bob Christenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I'm looking into SSTV. I see that popular frequencies to operate it are 7171, 7173, 14230 and 14233. Are these pictures sent using an analog or digital method? What popular software is being used? Is there

Re: [digitalradio] Happy Australia Day

2008-01-26 Thread Laurie, VK3AMA
Hi Andy, Hot here in Melbourne, 35 degrees. The only thing cold is the Beer I'm holding! 73 de Laurie, AX3AMA Happy Australia Day to all our VK members. Hope the weekend is not too hot for you, Melbourne looked nice and warm on TV today. Better than the 18 inches of snow I have outside

[digitalradio] Re: Happy Australia Day

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--Yes that is hot. You know you are in a hot country when the car hire company places a sticker on the window advising the renter to roll down the windows a little when temp exceeds 40c or windows might explode! That is what it said when I hired a car in Cairns! Andy K3UK - In

Re: [digitalradio] rfsm-2400

2008-01-26 Thread Rick
The reality is that very little ham software that costs money is going to succeed in todays world. When computers first became available it was possible to write some basic ham software and charge for it, but today it is no longer as viable. There is so much superbly written free and even open

[digitalradio] Re: Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread cesco12342000
I noticed that there are images that are sent with an RS 1 through 4 and then I think it converts them to jpg? The RSx files are additionally encoded. I dont remember the exact numbers but i think it allows 10% errors on rs1, 50% errors on rs4. You can actually decode an rs4 file when 50%

[digitalradio] Re: General questions about SSTV/Quick Guide

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew O'Brien
-I have had the same experience as Rick, some helpful hams but some grumpy hams on the usual SSTV frequencies. Also, too much talking. Like, one picture sent and 5 minutes of chit-cat. Like some of the less-used digital modes, SSTV is only used by a small amount of hams, and you tend to run

[digitalradio] Re: Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I was using the DECEEMBER full release. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was using the 10/Nov/07BETA of EasyPal which I downloaded fairly recently. I noticed that there are images that are sent with an RS 1 through 4 and then I think it converts them to

Re: [digitalradio] Re: General questions about SSTV/Quick Guide

2008-01-26 Thread Simon Brown
I see some use of MixW here, also little talk on the SSTV 20m frequency 14.230. DM780 coming along well with analogue SSTV support, crashing merrily at the moment :-( Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have had the same experience as

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Howard Brown
GM Rick, Several months ago I did some testing on HF with RFSM2400. We were able to transfer 4000 character files in ~40 secs. This is similar to what Les was able to achieve. Conditions were excellent then. Recently I was able to test with Chuck, AA5J on VHF and this time the throughput

Re: [digitalradio] Re: General questions about SSTV/Quick Guide

2008-01-26 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
And fldigi. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 9:12 am, Andrew O'Brien wrote: MFSK16 with pictures. Multipsk and Mixw allow for a digital QSO with MFSK16 and switch to a narrow mode picture transfer method when the users decide.

[digitalradio] Re: New Yahoo Group pactor_packet

2008-01-26 Thread Demetre Valaris
Hi again, If you wish to join this group please follow this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pactor_packet/join 73 de Demetre SV1UY

[digitalradio] Not enough Serial Ports

2008-01-26 Thread Barry Mertz
Questions: I am using an old IBM with Windows 98 operating system. The computer has two usb ports and one DB9 serial port. This is what I want to hook up. An MFJ-1275 sound card adapter. I also want to run HAM Radio Deluxe and control to radios with the CAT interface. A Yaesu FT- 920 HF and a

[digitalradio] psk31 help

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew O'Brien
We have several new members that state theY are new to digital modes and are looking to start with PSK31 . I just want to remind new digital hams that any questions are welcome here. If you need help, ask the group. Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Not enough Serial Ports

2008-01-26 Thread Phil Barnett
On Saturday 26 January 2008 01:06:20 pm Barry Mertz wrote: Questions: I am using an old IBM with Windows 98 operating system. The computer has two usb ports and one DB9 serial port. This is what I want to hook up. An MFJ-1275 sound card adapter. I also want to run HAM Radio Deluxe and control

RE: [digitalradio] Not enough Serial Ports

2008-01-26 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
If you have a spare slot in the PC, you can always purchase a dual-port serial card. That's what I did for my WinXP PC that came with no serial ports. They are fairly inexpensive now days. A check at CompUSA's web site turned up a 4-port board for $44.99 (Item Number: C250-2276), along with

[digitalradio] Re: Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread mikenetbot
When I first started poking around, I found a simple comparison paper at http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel2/672/6329/00247152.pdf . It appears to require an IEEE membership, or a university internet connection(I'm VPNed into my uni right now). The bottom of each page does say U. S. Government

[digitalradio] Re: Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread mikenetbot
Sorry about the line breaks...note to self, don't trust the post preview function. What I forgot to mention here is that when the adaptive equalizer models the channel, we can use that information for more than just equalizing the channel. Most current ARQ modes make a decision if the

Re: [digitalradio] Not enough Serial Ports

2008-01-26 Thread Dave 'Doc' Corio
Most of the on-line tech stores, such as Amazon.com or buy.com have multi-port cards available at a decent price. If you have a PCI slot available in the computer, this is one option. I paid $19 for the card I'm using, and it provides 4 serial ports via a connector that splits out to 4

[digitalradio] Updated : K3UK Quick and Dirty Guide to Narrow-Band SSTV

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Thanks. I have updated the guide, revised version is at http://www.obriensweb.com/narrowsstv.htm On Jan 26, 2008 2:48 PM, Gary Mackey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy - Great quick start guide. It's been a number of year since I operated SSTV and now I'm configured and ready to make a few

Re: [digitalradio] Not enough Serial Ports

2008-01-26 Thread David Struebel
You can get a USB to RS-232 serial adaptor that will allow you (if you get two of them) to have up to 3 Rs-232 serial ports Dave WB2FTX - Original Message - From: Barry Mertz To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: [digitalradio]

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Rick
Upon reading the RFSM site information, it looks like they are not going to do further development on RFSM2400 and they indicate that there are bugs that they corrected when they continued on with development of the 8000 program. If they are actually able to sell the program to make it

[digitalradio] Re: rfsm-2400

2008-01-26 Thread rod hart
The market will determine if the price of the product is correct. If it is over priced no one will buy it. I only feel sorry for the guys who have'nt made money from their ham related projects (i.e. Charles Brain, Bob Bruninga and others). Rod Hart WA3MEZ

Re: [digitalradio] Not enough Serial Ports

2008-01-26 Thread Loyd Headrick
check out this link http://www.serialgear.com/4-Port-Serial-USB.html Barry Mertz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Questions: I am using an old IBM with Windows 98 operating system. The computer has two usb ports and one DB9 serial port. This is what I want to hook up. An MFJ-1275

[digitalradio] FDMDV this afternoon...

2008-01-26 Thread Jose A. Amador
Copied XE1RK very well, SNR between 9 and 12 dB, no interruptions at all. He was in QSO with some W0 I did not hear AT ALL. 73, Jose, CO2JA __ Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM (Easypal)

2008-01-26 Thread Leskep
Hi Andrew Everyone really should only now use EasyPal instead of Hampal and always the latest from the KC1CS site EasyPal can work in a sort of ARQ manner if one or all of the stations has the following options ticked Under Action --- Use Repeater To work as a Repeater ONE station should set

[digitalradio] Thank you

2008-01-26 Thread Barry Mertz
Thanks Guys you learn something new every day I thank you Gunny KC8SXG Barry

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Leskep
Hi Rick You could get the Free RADIOAMATEUR Trial Test version [for 30 day trial] and do some experiments with that in the higher bands - this will allow you to experiment up to 8000 bits per second in wide bandwidth or up to bits per second in normal SSB bandwidth on HF You should run a

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Leskep
Hi Rick see comments below 5 spaces in Les VK2DSG From: Rick Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:38 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM I was using the 10/Nov/07BETA of EasyPal which I downloaded fairly recently. I noticed that there are

[digitalradio] Setting up FDMDV

2008-01-26 Thread Kevin O'Rorke
Hello All I have installed fdmdv_6_jan . All seemed to set up ok. I have 2 sound cards. Realtek ac97 on board which i have set for RX in and TX out, and USB Creative SB Extigy forVoice in and Voice out. If I put the mute right down I get random bits of voice sounding gunk, so that side of things

Re: [digitalradio] Setting up FDMDV

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Kevin, I have essentially the same set-up, almost same soundcards, I use for AC97 RX input and TX Output. I use the Creative Audigy soundcard for Voice Input and Voice Outpt .I do NOT get any high pitched noise when I transmit . I wonder if this is some sort of feedback you are getting. On

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Rick
Hi Les, While any of us could use the trial product, there are many other competing interests to work with these days and it is difficult to spend much time with something that is unlikely to be a successful product in ham radio. Even if hams could use the modem in the text digital portions

Re: [digitalradio] Setting up FDMDV

2008-01-26 Thread Jose A. Amador
Similar hardware here, set up in a different fashion. Onboard AC97 for mic input and TX output Creative Audigy 2 for RX input and speaker out. Needs a trick to mute the input RX audio using the effects menu. You must mute the line input to the soundcard mix, or you will get the received,

Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Leskep
Hi Rick Unfortunately - you are right Les VK2DSG From: Rick Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:00 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM Hi Les, While any of us could use the trial product, there are many other competing interests to work

[digitalradio] Re: Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread dmitry_d2d
Hi Les, Rick and all. About prices of RFSM-8000. I'm sorry, but Les was wrote incorrect information. In January, we offer special low prices. Price of FULL Featured (with Mail-Server) version is 60 USD (only for HAMs). Mail-Client version is unavailable. And, we think, this action (special low

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM

2008-01-26 Thread Leskep
Hi Dmitry My apologies for the wrong information Les VK2DSG From: dmitry_d2d Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:40 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Report on RFSM2400 vs. OFDM Hi Les, Rick and all. About prices of RFSM-8000. I'm sorry, but Les was wrote