Re: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digital modes?

2008-08-04 Thread Simon Brown
As Dave says, Make the modulator and demodulator available in a form easily incorporated into existing digital mode applications This is so very important. Olivia / MT63 is easy to implement because Pavel made source code available. If the source for a new mode is available in a commonly

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread Charles Brabham
PACTOR, being an ARQ mode is incapable of sharing a frequency with more than one other station. That, along with the extreme bandwidth and lack of effective signal detection makes PACTOR unsuitable for digital HF networks on anything but a very limited scale. - A few afficianados can play

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread John Becker, W0JAB
At 04:16 PM 8/4/2008 -0500,Charles Brabham, N5PVL in part wrote: PACTOR, being an ARQ mode is incapable of sharing a frequency with more than one other station. The same could be said about packet if it also was an ARQ mode such as Pactor. I understand that some are still PO'ed that their

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread Rud Merriam
AX25 is also an ARQ mode. Rud Merriam K5RUD ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX http://TheHamNetwork.net http://thehamnetwork.net/ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Brabham Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:17 PM To:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread Howard Brown
Charles, What happened with Q15X25 ?? It looks promising, especially on VHF. Can you fill us in on how it worked or didn't work? Howard K5HB - Original Message From: Charles Brabham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 4:16:46 PM Subject:

Re: [digitalradio] Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digital modes?

2008-08-04 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
I hadn't thought of trying a high-speed VHF/UHF modem :) Maybe that's because I live away from what most people call civilization and there aren't many VHF/UHF signals around here. I'd figured on using a CPU personality for overall control, and doing the work in hardware. Is the Spartan-3E

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread Rick W.
ARQ modes don't necessarily have to be incapable of sharing a frequency. Consider AX.25 packet radio, which has this capability. Pactor does not necessarily have a particularly wide footprint. Both Pactor and AX.25 packet are 2 tone FSK modes except packet is obviously much wider due to the

[digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread Charles Brabham
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Howard Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, What happened with Q15X25 ?? It looks promising, especially on VHF. Can you fill us in on how it worked or didn't work? Howard K5HB You hit the nail on the head, Howard, about Q15x25 being especially

[digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread Charles Brabham
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ARQ modes don't necessarily have to be incapable of sharing a frequency. Consider AX.25 packet radio, which has this capability. I am speaking in practical, real-world terms rather than theories about what could be. In

Re: [digitalradio] Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digital modes?

2008-08-04 Thread John B. Stephensen
Yes, I'm using the $150 board sold by Xilinx and Digilent. The XC3S500E seems to have just enough logic and memory for this application, but the starter kit power supplies aren't very clean when you're digitizing signals in the low HF range. I'Il use custom hardware with linear regulators when

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread Jose A. Amador
AX.25 Layer 2 has been conceived as an ARQ link. (A)cknowledge (R)e(Q)uest does not exclude sharing the channel or not. In spanish, amateur is written as aficionado. Radioaficionado does not have, in spanish, the slightest derogatory hint that the early ham operator english denomination had

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Has anyone looked into FPGA-based digitalmodes?

2008-08-04 Thread Rud Merriam
LDPC is to old to be under patent protection. The doctoral thesis that defines it is from the 60s. The problem is they did not have the computing power to utilize LDPC. It was rediscovered in the 90s. Rud Merriam K5RUD ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX http://TheHamNetwork.net -Original