Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)

2007-03-10 Thread wa8vbx
- From: John Bradley To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info) Amen Jose; Seems all the stateside operators want to do is argue. Is the plan to go back

Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)

2007-03-10 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Seems all the stateside operators want to do is argue. Is the plan to go back to the fundementals of this group, or do we set up a new one where policy arguments would be punted? John VE5MU Fellows, injecting national slurs into *any* ham radio discussion is a spectacularly bad idea.

Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)

2007-03-10 Thread John Bradley
Hey I'm one of the first to complain about WINLINK knocking out a QSO, and it is usually during a DX contact that it happens What I can't understand is the constant complaining about big bad old winlink, with the arguments going around and around. I don't have to operate in the middle of the

Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)

2007-03-10 Thread Dave Bernstein
The WinLink folks have run a long and effective campaign of disinformation. They claim that most of the QRM caused by WinLink PMBOs either is the fault of a WinLink user who called on a busy frequency, or isn't really QRM because the victim was running panoramic reception and thus had his or

Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)

2007-03-10 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Dave Bernstein wrote: .. So why don't we just not operate in the middle of automatic stations and shut up, as you suggest? Two reasons: 1. unattended automatic stations with a bandwidth of 500 hz or less can run anywhere in the data bands, so there is no safe frequency 2.

Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)

2007-03-10 Thread kv9u
John, We have gone over some of this a number of times, but perhaps you missed it. The Winlink 2000 programmer abandoned further work on the SCAMP mode because there is mostly one programmer as they don't work with many other hams on this. The have a closed view of the system and has been

Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)

2007-03-10 Thread John Bradley
Sorry to hear about your system being on a holiday from digital radio. There is no Winlink 2000 organization that you can work from within. It is basically a closed group of maybe half a dozen (at most) owners. They dictate all the terms to the amateur community and tell us how we are

Re: Obstination (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3580kHz-3600kHz FreqCoordination Info)

2007-03-09 Thread John Bradley
Amen Jose; Seems all the stateside operators want to do is argue. Is the plan to go back to the fundementals of this group, or do we set up a new one where policy arguments would be punted? John VE5MU --