[digitalradio] Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread Tony
All, I'm not sure why, but it seems that most of us tend to stick with the slower versions of Olivia even when conditions allow for much faster throughput. The more robust tone-bandwidth combinations seem overkill when the path is stable so why go slow? I sometimes test the waters by

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
Would not WINMOR be an option here? Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Tony It would be a neat to see some kind of throughput sensing where the speed of the mode changed to suit conditions automatically.

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread Rick W
I think that the reasons that we tend to gravitate toward a given Olivia speed/bandwidth: - need a standard to find others on the air. It is easy to determine the BW, but not so easy for the number of tones. - if you use a non-standard speed to start with, you will have a difficult time

[digitalradio] The next big thing - Using Swarm Intelligence

2009-04-30 Thread David
Excuse the newbie's lack of knowledge, but... Rapid expansion followed by slow consolidation. This is the way of business and technology. What we have been seeing over the last decade or so is the rapid expansion (diversity) of digital communications schemas. Eventually, market forces will

[digitalradio] Re: Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Simon \(HB9DRV\) simon.br...@... wrote: Would not WINMOR be an option here? Well, except that WINMOR seems to be single-mindedly a message passing mode. I wish there was some layering so that the modulation means and the error correcting means and the

[digitalradio] Solar Cycle 23 Sunspot Group Re-emerges

2009-04-30 Thread nz4o
Posted Thursday April 30, 2009 at http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf5.htm and http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf72.htm . On Thursday solar cycle 23 sunspot group S740 re-emerged near S08W64. Today NOAA/SWPC assigned it #10116. Solar cycle 23 is now 13 years long from first spot to present one, an extension of

[digitalradio] NZ4O Daily LF/MF/HF/6M Frequency Radiowave Propagation Forecast #2009-13

2009-04-30 Thread nz4o
The NZ4O Daily LF/MF/HF/6M Frequency Radiowave Propagation Forecast #2009-13 has been published on Thursday 04/30/2009 at 1500 UTC, valid UTC Saturday 05/02/2009 through 2359 UTC Friday 05/08/2009 at http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf6.htm . 73 GUD DX, Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O Lakeland, FL, USA

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread Rick W
Jim, I agree with you completely about Clover II. Some years back, when I would call CQ, I would sometimes get a connection with Ray Petit, W7GHM, (the inventor of CCW, Clover and Clover II), but with our distance and dipole antennas, could rarely do much more than trade the path information,

RE: [digitalradio] The next big thing - Using Swarm Intelligence

2009-04-30 Thread Dave AA6YQ
The approach you're suggesting is referred to as crowdsourcing, not swarm intelligence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_intelligence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdsourcing We have been using a form of crowdsourcing to drive the development of DXLab for the last 9 years. It works well.

Re: [digitalradio] The next big thing - Using Swarm Intelligence

2009-04-30 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
Look at the WINMOR specs and coding - at the moment this may be the solution. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: David dokr...@usa.net Where am I going with this? Why do we have to wait for someone to invent the better mouse trap? We can design

Re: [digitalradio] The next big thing - Using Swarm Intelligence

2009-04-30 Thread Simon (HB9DRV)
- Original Message - From: David dokr...@usa.net We can design it as a community. There are a couple of Ham Radio community projects I follow which have collapsed or at least stopped moving forwards simply because they are community projects where the problems with self-elected

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread Tony
Rick, It is easy to determine the BW, but not so easy for the number of tones. The RSID would come in handy for this, but I don't feel it's difficult to determine the number of tones. The 500Hz mode seems to be the standard and it's rare to see anyone using more than 16 tones. Clicking

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread Sholto Fisher
I've found the 1000Hz 8 tone waveform to be very good also. Nice throughput and still plenty sensitive enough for many conditions. Had a nice chat to KC5CAY in 8 tone Contestia today and that worked very well, if a little fast. I have the radio on 14072.5 USB if anyone wants to experiment with

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Rick I feel you think that winmor was intended to be a chat mode. It was not and is not nor a replacement for pactor. John

[digitalradio] 10 meter Es now

2009-04-30 Thread Tony
All, Sporadic-E opening on 10 meters towards the south as of 23:20z. Few Caribbean stations on the band... KP3FT beacon loud and clear on 28222.5 Tony -K2MO

Re: [digitalradio] Olivia

2009-04-30 Thread Rick W
Hi John, WINMOR is an open protocol, therefore it is up to the developers as to what they want to use it for. I personally prefer open protocols because of this, but far be it for me to tell others how they can or can not use a given protocol. The current developers have designed the protocol