Re: [digitalradio] Deepsearch on JT65 HF --turn it off

2007-04-20 Thread John GM4SLV
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:58:01 -0500 w6ids [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Bill, I'll thank you for that. It answers a nagging question. I've seen instances where I've seen myself being called by a number of stations over time periodically.and I wasn't even keying the rig. Can you

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Deepsearch on JT65 HF --turn it off

2007-04-20 Thread John GM4SLV
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:25:12 - Bill McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, Sure you already know this but the key was the 0 3 082600 1 -14 5.2 584 3 * GM4SLV SM2LKW KP15 ? 0 3 Hi Bill, I only started with JT65 yesterday but it didn't take me long to dig through the docs to

Re: [digitalradio] Meteor Scatter 50mHz

2007-04-20 Thread bruce mallon
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[digitalradio] protocol....cq on first only ?

2007-04-20 Thread David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
well of the bat seems ok, but once the conversation starts the whole thing goes out the window. maybe better if the jt65 code would have a special symbol that would indicate a cq call. that would be up to Joe i think. david/wd4kpd

[digitalradio] protocol for cq

2007-04-20 Thread David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
addendum... as to the special symbol in the cq message, this would allow you to tell if a station is calling cq, without having to click and decode... sort of like how distinctive a cq message is in cw, or ryry sounds like in rtty. david/wd4kpd

Re: [digitalradio] WSJT recompile

2007-04-20 Thread w6ids
Not from here, Leigh, other than to add that it seems to make sense to create a version that is more applicable to HF requirements. Nothing wrong with that at all. Thanks for the effort; should be interesting. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr.

Re: [digitalradio] JT65 Flatten Spectrum Option

2007-04-20 Thread w6ids
Andy, I dunno about that. It all depends on whether or not your flattened spectra lasted for more than four hours! Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio]

Re: [digitalradio] protocol for cq

2007-04-20 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I think this is a great idea for all digital modes. I did a prototype in gmfsk of Vaisual CQ and I think it is more useful than the visual mode ID that many digimode programs now sport. I don't know how well it would work for JT65a if the goal is readability into the noise, but with PSK, it

[digitalradio] Are you ready for the TARA Skirmish?

2007-04-20 Thread ny2u
Howdy: Well, the time has come to ready ourselves for the next running of the TARA Skirmish Contest on 21 April 2007 from 00:00 UTC to 24:00 UTC 21 April 2007. Yes, this is a FULL 24 hour contest that I'm sure all of you will enjoy. I know some out there still think this is just a 12 hour

[digitalradio] Fwd: [tapr-announce] Join Us at the First TAPR/AMSAT Joint Hamvention Banquet

2007-04-20 Thread Mark Thompson
Joint TAPR/AMSAT Banquet at Dayton 2007 For many years, AMSAT and TAPR have held competing Hamvention dinner on Friday evening. Given the tremendous overlap in membership and interest between the two groups, this has always required tough choices. We're pleased to announce that this year,

[digitalradio] wsjt and stuff

2007-04-20 Thread Bill
Hi Andy, Hope all is well. Just a few random comments: Using deep search - some in the EME community (mostly CW purists for lack of a better term think the use of shorthand messages and deep search decoding are not for making valis contacts...can seend you more of this if interested but

[digitalradio] Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Some of the supposed benefits of JT65a are real, but some are illusory. I noticed that I could plainly heard tones and quite easily see them on the waterfall at about the same level of visibility as a nearby Olivia QSO, yet WSJT was reporting -20dB or son S/N. Reading the paper [1], I found

[digitalradio] Re: Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread expeditionradio
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My conclusion is that this mode is about 10-15 dB worse than it appears to be, and we should start doing more careful tests alongside Olivia and plain old MFSK as controls in side-by-side propagation

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Good work Leigh, I was wondering about some of those -31 readings that I could hear with my ears. I think Olivia testing is a good thing for this weekend. Bonnie, the fad is an interesting issue. Certainly weak signal performance is a popular goal, but I wonder if it JT65A is popular in part

[digitalradio] Weak signals Olivia vs JT65

2007-04-20 Thread John Bradley
As of 0130Z beaconing OLIVIA 250/8 tones 14073.5 +1000hz every minute running 75 watts. Here 20M is still open with very few CW sigs mostly from W6 John VE5MU

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread John Bradley
I think that fad might be a tad strong. Personally I am amazed at J65 and it's ability to work under very low signal conditions. The other night I worked JA on 20M without ANY indication of a signal, just one tiny spike, and nothing by ear. I would however happily switch to another mode

[digitalradio] Re: Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread Bill McLaughlin
All, Actually an old controversy re JT65* modes in the EME community, dead horse oft beaten but still think it is the mode suite of choice for MS and EME; also think more to the point is what other weak signal modes work as well or better with bandwidth taken into balance on HF? If for a 60

Re: [digitalradio] Weak signals Olivia vs JT65

2007-04-20 Thread Andrew O'Brien
me too, same freq, same settings , 75 watts. Beacons starts around 25 seconds past the minute for 30 seconds Andy K3UK On 4/20/07, John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As of 0130Z beaconing OLIVIA 250/8 tones 14073.5 +1000hz every minute running 75 watts. Here 20M is still open with very

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread John GM4SLV
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:00:52 - expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My conclusion is that this mode is about 10-15 dB worse than it appears to be.. After a week or so of monitoring JT65A on 14MHz

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I think W1JT has done an excellent job not only with the DSP and mode design but also with the software, making it open souirce, documenting it well both technically and for users, and seeding further development with a group of others. I don't mean to detract from this work at all. I think

Re: [digitalradio] Weak signals Olivia vs JT65

2007-04-20 Thread John Bradley
At 0245Z moved to 7078.5 1000hz Olivia 250/8 Beaconing every minute. John VE5MU - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Weak signals Olivia vs JT65 me too, same freq,

[digitalradio] Re: Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread Bill McLaughlin
No argument from me. Alot to be garnered from this...both technically and socially. The discussion alone is of value. The mode suite is pretty much what it is in context of its intent. That it provokes interest on HF might be an arrow pointing towards abit different goal. Might even mean that

[digitalradio] 12M Deep Search/ Straight talk on JT65a

2007-04-20 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I like Shetland John's idea about deep search work on 12 or 10 M. I think I will give it a try tomorrow on 12 and see what I come up with. Will check prop charts for best time to north of John O' Groats... Andy K3UK On 4/20/07, Bill McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No argument from