[digitalradio] Re: ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints

2010-07-11 Thread DaveNF2G
I would suggest that this makes ROS illegal in ANY jurisdiction that requires its ham operators to maintain complete control over all aspects of their station operations. de Dave, NF2G

AW: [digitalradio] Re: ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints

2010-07-11 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Autospot can now be switched of . so operator HAS control over it (in some kind) So you can use it as it is . or just switch it off Greetings Sigi

[digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints

2010-07-11 Thread Steinar Aanesland
//What a charming guy.. la5vna On 11.07.2010 01:05, Laurie, VK3AMA wrote: from his website http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/ros-and-cluster/ Jose says... ROS uses a system that send reports to the DX Cluster automatically. This is useful to know who are listen you and the

[digitalradio] Re: ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints

2010-07-11 Thread g4ilo
So it's official. ROS really does mean Run Other Software. :) Julian, G4ILO --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Laurie, VK3AMA group...@... wrote: If you are not agree with this function that help to the communication, don't use ROS software. Interpret that as you want.

[digitalradio] Prevent ROS from sending spots

2010-07-11 Thread Steinar Aanesland
I don't care if Mr. ROS will be angry on me, but here is another way of blocking this back-door software. You can use a sandbox and run ROS in a totally isolated environment . Here is a great software made by Ronen Tzur: http://www.sandboxie.com/ Sandboxie is free and easy to use, but remember to

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS Developer will continue to auto-spot despite complaints

2010-07-11 Thread James Hall
BTW guys, if you have the technical skill to do so, I'd recommend setting up a virtual machine to test any questionable material out in. Virtualbox is one free VM, qemu is another. Virtualbox is a lot easier to transfer files into. You can set aside a file for a virtual hard drive, install a

Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC

2010-07-11 Thread James Hall
I'm not quite sure what's going on here. Are you attacking me? I was merely stating that I see no cause for alarm and that I did not think there was anything nefarious going on. I'm a ham radio operator, of course figuring out how things work excites me. That's the whole point. To which little

[digitalradio] Re: VHF Contesting

2010-07-11 Thread GregCT
Thanks to all for your comments, suggestions. Yes, even you Dan... but you need to step back a bit and consider all of the aspects of our hobby. And why would I want to settle for repeater hopping with an HT when I have a perfectly good FT897 that runs 20w on SSB from the backpack portable?

[digitalradio] Uninstalled ROS

2010-07-11 Thread g3ofa
Following the discovery that ROS has been secretly sending fake reports to DX clusters I have removed ROS from my PC. Its a pity to have to take this action but the software cannot be trusted and there is no way telling what other hidden activities it may be carrying out. I urge other hams to

[digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Pirate behavior

2010-07-11 Thread graham787
Ok Skip I typed that into google …point taken … good luck with that one ! cannot stations apply for experimental status / investigation into enhanced emergency com's etc ? as you've lost one of the established `ss' modes as well..things are going backwards ? G ..

[digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Pirate behavior

2010-07-11 Thread graham787
Ok Skip, Yes bit of a difficult situation , catch 22 , but progress is progres .. Well there's a lot of it about over here .. the MF modes work very well on HF as well and are 98 hz wide, there where going to be a new set of narrow modes based on the HF/MF systems ,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Pirate behavior

2010-07-11 Thread Mike Liller
While there have been many coments about ROS and the nature of the software and what it does on your PC, Mine is for those who worry what might be lingering on their hard drives now I recommend for anyone who is worried about creepie crawlies in their HD, to download Malwarebytes,

[digitalradio] Re: Re : testing confirms ROS,,,,,,,,,,,

2010-07-11 Thread graham787
Well Mel Lets Just hope Spain wins the world cup G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, raf3151019 gzero...@... wrote: Well, would you believe it ! So what happens now ? Mel G0GQK

Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC

2010-07-11 Thread rein0zn
Hello James Hall, Why not using your call here? But that's OK. I was not attacking you nor anybody else. It is not part of my amateur radio experience or fun. You were attacking me or? Thick skin here. I was with the xyl to a concert yesterday and not behind this computer. Over the last

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Re : testing confirms ROS,,,,,,,,,,,

2010-07-11 Thread Steinar Aanesland
G.. you are a really funny joker S On 11.07.2010 16:59, graham787 wrote: Well Mel Lets Just hope Spain wins the world cup G .. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, raf3151019 gzero...@... wrote: Well, would you believe it ! So what happens now ? Mel G0GQK

[digitalradio] Another fake US call

2010-07-11 Thread Rein A
From QRZ.com: The search for WK6UR produced no results. From Hamspots: Jul11 13:17 +4h WK6UR United States, 14103.00 20 ROS test SM0RUX-6 IK5PWQ Every valid US licensee is on QRZ.com / FCC pages listed. 73 Rein W6SZ

[digitalradio] Aother US fake call ( station )

2010-07-11 Thread Rein A
Perhaps some body with the right tracking capabilities can research the path of this message. There has been no propagation over the last couple of hours between SM6 and California. It looks to me there are more questions here than just blaming the ROS software, Though I can be wrong as I often

[digitalradio] Where are our innovators?

2010-07-11 Thread Trevor .
We clearly need to encourage innovation in Amateur Radio. Many potential innovators may be people working in the fields of Software or Communications who are not currently Radio Amateurs. The question is what can we do to encourage people with expertise in these areas to join the Amateur

Re: [digitalradio] Aother US fake call ( station )

2010-07-11 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Rein I think we have enough to assume that there is something fishy with this guy and his software. I admit that odd characters like Mr. Ros is fascinating, and it has been exiting to investigate his back door software, but I will leave it for now until his next release. Then we will see what

[digitalradio] Posted on ROSMODEM home page

2010-07-11 Thread Dave Wright
ROS 1.0 (the last)http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/07/11/ros-1-0-the-last/ 11 July, 2010 by José Alberto Nieto Ros I’ve been reading too many derogatory comments towards me in Digital Group and ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP so I understand that it is not worth further evolve this software. So, ROS 1.0

[digitalradio] Re: Where are our innovators?

2010-07-11 Thread graham787
We clearly need to encourage innovation in Amateur Radio Trev, have you just tuned in ? G . --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Trevor . m5...@... wrote: We clearly need to encourage innovation in Amateur Radio. Many potential innovators may be people working in the fields of Software

Re: [digitalradio] Posted on ROSMODEM home page

2010-07-11 Thread KH6TY
So, ROS 1.0 is the last version. The ROSMODEM web page also claims a EA8TL to VK2CBL QSO with a -3 dB S/N (New record in distance: 18660 km), but PSK31 can copy down to -11 dB S/N and Olivia down to -15dB S/N in a fraction of the bandwidth of ROS. For the same typing speed as ROS, or PSK31,

Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Re: [digitalradio] Aother US fake call ( station )

2010-07-11 Thread rein0zn
Dear Steinar, Thanks. [ I noticed the message not to repeat things. } I agree with all your research, observations, and largely your conclusions. Indeed the overall thread through all of this is Jose's character/behavior. It creates a big problem for me to defend him, really. Still want to

Re: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting

2010-07-11 Thread Tony
Greg, You might want to consider using the WSJT modes for the contest. They work very well with scatter mode propagation, i.e., meteor scatter, ionospheric scatter and can fill the void when other propagation modes are not available. The new ISCAT mode decodes well into the noise and is very

RE: [digitalradio] Posted on ROSMODEM home page

2010-07-11 Thread Francesco Piccone
No me parece que tengamos que pagar justo por pecadores L Gracias por todo Jose 73 Francesco YV4GJN De: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de Dave Wright Enviado el: domingo, 11 de julio de 2010 03:47 p.m. Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Asunto:

[digitalradio] ROS modem Yahoo Group

2010-07-11 Thread Rein A
CLOSING GROUP TOMORROW EVE. IF YOU NEED TO COPY ANYTHING, GET ER DONE ! DAVID/WD4KPD

Re: [digitalradio] Where are our innovators? Here in this group.

2010-07-11 Thread Andy obrien
Just within this group  we have Patrick F6CTE who has innovated enough to bring us RS ID, ALE 400 and other special modes Skip Teller  KH6TY who has innovated all his life and lately has brought us NBEMS (with others) plus recent  build-it-yourself digital mode interfaces. Simon Brown

[digitalradio] Yahoo Ros Modem zgroup to stay alive!

2010-07-11 Thread Rein A
Hi all, David, who got this group going and has served us all well during some pretty difficult times, has decided it is time to move on. So that those interested in ROS can continue to exchange ideas and support each other he has agreed that the group should continue. To this end David has