Alan,
Of course, the FCC rules on SS are outdated and ROS should be allowed
due to its narrow spreading range, but the road to success is not to
just rename a spread spectrum modem to something else and try to fool
the FCC. This is a sure way to lose the battle. The genie is already out
of
of a ssb-filter
hamradio is an experimental hobby!
_
Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von KH6TY
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 12:29
An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
Alan
If MFSK16 was randomized would it magically become spread-spectrum?
Alan, sorry I forgot to reply to this question.
The answer is yes, but only if the following three conditions are ALL
met (from the ROS documentation):
1. The signal occupies a bandwidth much in excess of the minimum
things in this group.
*De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
*Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
*Enviado:* vie,26 febrero, 2010 13:18
*Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
If MFSK16 was randomized would
If you are waste time in try demostrate ROS is a SS, i think you are not trying
help.
De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 14:36
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
jose alberto
:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
*Enviado:* vie,26 febrero, 2010 14:36
*Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
I propose to moderator you will be banned if you continue
saying stupid things in this group.
Moderated for stupidity? Now
are not trying help.
De: KH6TY
kh...@comcast. net
Para: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Enviado: vie,26
febrero, 2010 14:36
Asunto: Re:
[digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
I propose to moderator you will be banned if you continue
:36
*Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
I propose to moderator you will be banned if you continue
saying stupid things in this group.
Moderated for stupidity? Now that will be a first!
Good luck with trying
in advance,
Warren - K5WGM
--- On *Fri, 2/26/10, KH6TY /kh...@comcast.net/* wrote:
From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 8:11 AM
Jose, my attempted
.
*De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
*Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
*Enviado:* vie,26 febrero, 2010 14:36
*Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
I propose to moderator you will be banned if you continue
saying stupid things in this group
: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 15:27
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
Hi Warren,
I have already captured a spectrum of Olivia 32-100 (i.e., FSK32) and posted it
in a reply, but glad do it again.. You can see the fixed frequencies at idle
This is rude. Where is the moderator when you need him?
From: jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 8:59:00 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
KH, are you a Ham
febrero, 2010 15:27
*Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
Hi Warren,
I have already captured a spectrum of Olivia 32-100 (i.e., FSK32) and
posted it in a reply, but glad do it again.. You can see the fixed
frequencies at idle and then the new frequencies added when data
/* wrote:
From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 8:11 AM
Jose, my attempted help is to let you understand that the FCC
believed you when you said ROS
jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
KH, are you a Ham Radio or a FCC member?
If you are Ham Radio you should waste your time in help new modes would be
used. Only a fool throws stones at your own roof. So, if you are not a FCC
member, then we know what you are.
Jose,
I should give up on this
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me . . .
From: Toby Burnett ruff...@hebrides.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 9:44:05 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
Lol really sorry, must have clicked
know what you are.
*De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
*Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
*Enviado:* vie,26 febrero, 2010 15:27
*Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
Hi Warren,
I have already captured
if several hams using ROS
that are one top of each other, does it work better than say, Olivia?
Warren - K5WGM
--- On Fri, 2/26/10, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote:
From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date
better than say, Olivia?
Warren - K5WGM
--- On *Fri, 2/26/10, KH6TY /kh...@comcast.net/* wrote:
From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 8:27 AM
Hi
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:29:23 -0500, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net said:
[snip]
It looks to me that the tone frequencies are clearly being generated
independently from the data and then the data applied to the randomly
generated frequency. There is NO pattern to ROS like there is to FSK
modes,
that know how it work.
Thanks
De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 20:27
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
Hi Warren,
I do not know of any way to change bandwidth in ROS. My
--- On Fri, 2/26/10, jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es wrote:
From: jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 1:41 PM
Hi
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
Hi Jose,
in the latest version that problem is fixed. Now ROS no decode new station
until a first station has finished.Please, use latest version. Old version has
thats problem
You may be directing you statement to Skip.
I have
Warren,
Please allow me put my two cents. I would not expect so if the spreading
code is the same.
The adventage of CDMA is code orthogonality, each user has a different
chipping code that has little correlation with other user's codes., and
so, there is little mutual QRM.
As far as I
things are of sense common
De: José A. Amador ama...@electrica.cujae.edu.cu
Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 20:33
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
Warren,
Please allow me put my two cents. I would
No, I have not, because Olivia is usually found in different frequencies
than those where packet activity is found on this side of planet Earth,
and in general, packet sysops and Olivia users know their way around and
do not step over others toes. Very seldom I have experienced Olivia to
KH6TY wrote:
The difference between ROS and MFSK16 at idle (i.e. no data input), is
that MFSK16 has repetitive carriers in a pattern, but the ROS idle has
no repetitive pattern and when data is input, the pattern still
appears to be random. Note the additional carriers when I send six
letter
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