Hi Cor,
Thanks a lot for replacing me during the last SC and MC meetings, the
notice was quiet short, sorry for this.
I'm back now and will be able to take care of my homework. I've almost
read all the mails arrived the 4 last days (having a Leeloo reading mode
integrated would be great ;)
Hi Norbert, all,
On 16/06/2011 21:26, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
2011/6/16 André Schnabelandre.schna...@gmx.net:
Hi,
meeting minutes are at the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-06-16
(Cor, Fridrich - please edit the wiki, if I forgot
Hi Dave, Norbert,
On 10/06/2011 15:30, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
[...]
First, thank you both for this discussion, I'm jumping here, just for a
comment on the online Opal.
OpenSTV is GPL, but only available for download for a fee.
Really? News to me! It wasn't up until OpenSTV 1.6. I'd be
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:56 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message
From: Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Thu, June 16, 2011 6:31:25 PM
Subject: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re:
Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver
at this point?
Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers?
Marc-André Laverdière
Software Security Scientist
Innovation Labs, Tata Consultancy Services
Hyderabad, India
On 06/12/2011 02:19 AM,
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:06:16PM +0530, Marc-André Laverdière wrote:
Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC
driver at this point?
Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers?
Make that ODBC and perhaps JDBC.
Having LibreOffice depending on a
Le 17/06/11 08:36, Marc-André Laverdière a écrit :
Is there _any_ database that people use that doesn't have a JDBC driver
at this point?
Maybe we can keep our lives simple by only enabling JDBC drivers?
Other than the fact that it would make LibreOffice even more dependent
on Java
BRM wrote:
Directly from the FSF, authors of the GPL. You must have a copy of the
written
offer in order to be entitled to receipt of the source.
It's amazing how you distort arguments to keep your own perspective.
What the GPL says is that whoever gives you a copy of the program is
Hello Martin,
Answering to the discuss AT TDF list as I'm not subscribed to the other
ones...
Le Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:39:54 +0200,
Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com a écrit :
Hi Sam,
Do you have a concrete proposal?
yes, I have.
First, I do not have any problems with
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 10:53 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Hello Martin,
Answering to the discuss AT TDF list as I'm not subscribed to the other
ones...
Le Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:39:54 +0200,
Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com a écrit :
Hi Sam,
Do you have a
Hi Drew,
On 17/06/2011 13:34, drew wrote:
[...]
People in other countries are capable of directing their own affairs, I
would think.
Yes, and as we have seen with OOo, it works really well.
Unless you are thinking of creating franchises, is that
your goal?
The idea, I think, come from me a
Le Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:34:48 -0400,
drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit :
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 10:53 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Hello Martin,
Answering to the discuss AT TDF list as I'm not subscribed to the
other ones...
Le Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:39:54 +0200,
Martin
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 14:08 +0300, sophie wrote:
Hi Drew,
On 17/06/2011 13:34, drew wrote:
[...]
People in other countries are capable of directing their own affairs, I
would think.
Yes, and as we have seen with OOo, it works really well.
Hi Sophie,
Thanks for the quick reply.
I do not
Hi Allen,
So - first, I've enjoyed interacting with you over many years around
OO.o / LibreOffice :-) and I value many of your insights.
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 10:43 -0400, Allen Pulsifer wrote:
Thorsten Behrens wrote:
..
I do not agree with your conclusion that the Apache OpenOffice
Le Fri, 17 Jun 2011 07:42:17 -0400,
drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit :
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 13:18 +, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Le Fri, 17 Jun 2011 06:34:48 -0400,
drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit :
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 10:53 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
Hello Martin,
M. Henri Day wrote:
Charles wrote:
Now that we can find Bug 38244 under the section for voting on
Enhancements to Writer, I'd like to ask everyone with an interest in
this issue to please sign up and add your vote.
If you use Track Changes to work with an editor, you probably need this
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 14:37 +, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
big snip?
er... I don't know. Let's skip the word charter, because it might be
meaning one word in my language (french) and another one -or a nuance
of it- in English. Let's use the word: agreement instead. What several
NGOs had told
10. ...
11. Profit!
Are there plans to improve it? I've seen easier government bureaucracy
stuff than that...
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Charles Jenkins
cejperso...@tec-usa.com wrote:
M. Henri Day wrote:
Charles wrote:
Now that we can find Bug 38244 under the section for voting on
DISCLAIMER: IANAL. Consult one for real legal advice if you need it.
- Original Message
From: plino pedl...@gmail.com
BRM wrote:
Directly from the FSF, authors of the GPL. You must have a copy of the
written
offer in order to be entitled to receipt of the source.
On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:
The overlap between TDF ASF's goals for an office product (modulo
enabling 'mixed-source') is a pretty compelling proof of competition.
I disagree... competition implies a winner and a loser...
in FOSS, how do you measure that? Market
@BRM sorry to burst your fantasy world...
We are not discussing some theoretical situation with A, B, C, D, etc
This topic and this forum is about a PUBLIC free office suite (yes, I
noticed you deliberately ignored my argument)
In this case the GPL clearly says that the written license MUST be
- Original Message
From: plino pedl...@gmail.com
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 10:12:01 AM
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re:
[Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice)
@BRM sorry to burst your fantasy
On 17 June 2011 12:08, sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Drew,
On 17/06/2011 13:34, drew wrote:
[...]
People in other countries are capable of directing their own affairs, I
would think.
Yes, and as we have seen with OOo, it works really well.
Unless you are thinking of
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:
The overlap between TDF ASF's goals for an office product (modulo
enabling 'mixed-source') is a pretty compelling proof of competition.
I disagree...
On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Keith Curtis wrote:
I think it is a helpful exercise to have a starting position that forks are
bad. They might be necessary and useful sometimes, like war, but that
doesn't make them ideal.
I'm not sure about that... Some forks are good, some are
bad. It's
- Original Message
From: Keith Curtis keit...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Michael Meeks wrote:
The overlap between TDF ASF's goals for an office product
(modulo
enabling 'mixed-source')
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:08 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote:
And TDF/LO is the real fork in this case. In your opinion it would have
been a
necessary fork, but it is the fork nonetheless. Any argument otherwise is
revisionist history.
LO was a fork, but that was the for many months ago.
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 08:46 -0700, Keith Curtis wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:08 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote:
And TDF/LO is the real fork in this case. In your opinion it would have
been a
necessary fork, but it is the fork nonetheless. Any argument otherwise is
revisionist
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:54 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote:
DISCLAIMER: IANAL. Consult one for real legal advice if you need it.
...
Party F may ask Group C for the code, showing the written notice he received
from Customer E which matches what Group C provided to Customer E.
I think
- Original Message
From: Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:54 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote:
DISCLAIMER: IANAL. Consult one for real legal advice if you need it.
...
Party F may ask Group C for the code, showing the written notice he
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:59 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message
From: Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com
...
Your views are not mainstream; if you want to gain traction, you should make
the effort
to subscribe to the gpl-violations.org mailing list and
In the past I'd answered a few questions regarding OOo ECCN[1] and
pointed the poster to Sun's ECCN[2]. What are the implications for LO
general with regards to ECCN? I do see that Novell/Attachmate Group do
list an ECCN for LO[3] with a category of 5D992.
Given that questions eventually will
Ignoring the repetition on who is entitled to source code and how they are told
about it, I would like to know the answers to some very specific, tangible
matters closer to home. My question is basically whether the terms of a GPL
license attached to a software distribution are applicable to
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Ignoring the repetition on who is entitled to source code and how they are
told about it, I would like to know the answers to some very specific,
tangible matters closer to home. My question is basically
I didn't say I didn't know how to do it. I didn't say I wanted to build it.
This is about honoring the spirit of the free software promise. It is not even
about building the code. People may want to do any number of things with the
source code (inspect for bugs, for example).
I *did* say I
Hi *,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
Mark Wielaard wrote on 2011-06-15 14.34:
And if possible please also add a News from the TDF Blog widget to the
frontpage like already on libreoffice.org. Then it would be immediately
clear that
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I didn't say I didn't know how to do it. I didn't say I wanted to build it.
This is about honoring the spirit of the free software promise. It is not
even about building the code. People may want to do any
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