Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Joel Madero
>> If you are promoting LO because it provides better interoperability, >> shouldn't they be configured as equivalents? You could even prompt users >> on save. Would this break something? > I do not know, as I am not a developer. I have configured my instance of > LibreOffice to replace Calibri

[tdf-discuss] Re: OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2016-04-27 16:55, Simon Phipps a écrit : I can't speak to a general recommendation, but this advice from Debian to use Google's compatible free fonts seems good: https://wiki.debian.org/SubstitutingCalibriAndCambriaFonts In fact it makes me wonder if these could be the default

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Mike Hall
On 27/04/2016 21:57, Italo Vignoli wrote: In fact, they are provided as equivalents, although the software is not configured to handle them as equivalents. If you are promoting LO because it provides better interoperability, shouldn't they be configured as equivalents? You could even prompt

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 27/04/2016 22:55, Simon Phipps wrote: > In fact it makes me wonder if these could be the default equivalents for > the C-fonts in LibreOffice? In fact, they are provided as equivalents, although the software is not configured to handle them as equivalents. -- Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Simon Phipps
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Mike Hall wrote: > On 27/04/2016 21:18, Italo Vignoli wrote: > >> By using C-Fonts, you are therefore producing documents with limited >> interoperability >> C-Fonts are not interoperable also in technical terms, >> > That's good

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Mike Hall
On 27/04/2016 21:18, Italo Vignoli wrote: By using C-Fonts, you are therefore producing documents with limited interoperability C-Fonts are not interoperable also in technical terms, That's good information. Does TDF have a recommendation for which fonts to use to maximise interoperability

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Italo Vignoli
Yes, the fonts come with Windows, but not with other operating systems. On MacOS, they are legally available with MS Office installed. On Linux, they are not available at all. C-Fonts cannot be legally embedded, although they can be mechanically embedded (and no one warns you about the legal

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Mike Hall
On 27/04/2016 13:42, Italo Vignoli wrote: Several people at TDF have been involved in the decision process and have contributed specific evidence about ODF and OOXML I zapped your last message, but I wondered whether it was necessary to have an MSO licence to use Calibri etc. This windows PC,

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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 26/04/2016 12:46, mjollni...@laposte.net wrote: > Is it correct to say that the Transitionnal OOXML format is not > compliant with any international standard or norm ? Neither ECMA, nor > ISO, nor anything but MS$ itself. OOXML Transitional is not the standard format, but a tweaked version of

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 27/04/2016 10:12, pasqual milvaques wrote: > In the sake of documenting this, the UK Cabinet Office decision can be > found here: > https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/open-standards-for-government/sharing-or-collaborating-with-government-documents Several people at TDF have been

Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

2016-04-27 Thread pasqual milvaques
Hi In the sake of documenting this, the UK Cabinet Office decision can be found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/open-standards-for-government/sharing-or-collaborating-with-government-documents In this URL there is addditional information about the supoport process: