Hi Marc,
2010/12/3 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
Le 2010-12-02 11:27, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :
Why ship an installer, when it is preferred to use the package manager
from
your Linux distribution? For Mandriva (on the console) do the following:
- go to the directory that has all the rpm
I see several issues in the discussion about installers - and I only
just joined the list! Let's list 'em...
1. You are assuming everyone will be running Linux. They won't.
2. You assume they all have a packaged Linux distro. They won't.
3. You presume they can all grab tar's themselves. They
- Original Message
From: Mark Preston m...@mpreston.demon.co.uk
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 12:18:16 PM
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.
I see several issues in the discussion about installers - and I only
On 12/02/2010 11:57 AM, BRM wrote:
- Original Message
From: Robert Derman robert.der...@pressenter.com
I remember that optical disks started to replace floppies in about 1995
because Win-95 came either way. Win-98 was CD only. I will admit that DVD
burners didn't become
Le 2010-12-02 02:29, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :
Although a good idea, I would still like to see an installer do this
rather than the language pack.
Hmm, on MS-Windows language packs are installed by an installer in the
same way as the core application.
The difference is that this installer
Hi Marc,
2010/12/2 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com
Le 2010-12-02 02:29, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :
Although a good idea, I would still like to see an installer do this
rather than the language pack.
Hmm, on MS-Windows language packs are installed by an installer in the
same way as the
NoOp wrote:
On 11/30/2010 02:43 AM, plino wrote:
The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and
only English, Spanish and French dictionaries).
Why is LO going in the opposite direction with 299 and 466Mb???
The current packages (including in the smallest option
On fim 2.des 2010 15:58, skrifaði Marc Paré:
-
Ah .. I am just looking at the language packs for linux distributions.
Could anyone on the list explain how users install language packs on LO
(I'm using the .rpm version as reference point here). It looks like they
come in a .tar.gz file and
- Original Message
From: Robert Derman robert.der...@pressenter.com
I remember that optical disks started to replace floppies in about 1995
because Win-95 came either way. Win-98 was CD only. I will admit that DVD
burners didn't become affordable until about 2005, but most of
Le 2010-12-02 13:08, Sveinn í Felli a écrit :
Well, that depends on what you define as an 'user'.
'Normal Linux users' (as of today = *buntu/Mint etc) use their
respective package managers to set up software.
Developers should be capable to pull their nightly dose directly from
git, the
Le 2010-12-02 11:27, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :
Why ship an installer, when it is preferred to use the package manager from
your Linux distribution? For Mandriva (on the console) do the following:
- go to the directory that has all the rpm packages
- su
- (enter password)
- urpmi *.rpm
That
On 12/02/2010 10:27 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote:
Hi Marc,
2010/12/2 Marc Parém...@marcpare.com
Le 2010-12-02 02:29, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :
Although a good idea, I would still like to see an installer do this
rather than the language pack.
Hmm, on MS-Windows language packs are installed
Le 2010-11-30 17:13, Dr. Bernhard Dippold a écrit :
At least if this combination is the only one we offer.
Non-English speaking people need installers in their own language.
Even if it is better to have an English installer with the ability to switch
later to
the native language, the goal
Hi,
Le 30/11/2010 23:13, Dr. Bernhard Dippold a écrit :
Hi Carl, Leif , all
Carl Symons wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:10 PM, leif leiflod...@gmail.com wrote:
Den 30-11-2010 11:43, plino skrev:
The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and
only English,
Le 2010-12-01 17:29, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :
Hi,
Le 30/11/2010 23:13, Dr. Bernhard Dippold a écrit :
Hi Carl, Leif , all
Carl Symons wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:10 PM, leifleiflod...@gmail.com wrote:
Den 30-11-2010 11:43, plino skrev:
The point here is that OOo has a small
Le 01/12/2010 23:42, Marc Paré a écrit :
Le 2010-12-01 17:29, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :
Hi,
Le 30/11/2010 23:13, Dr. Bernhard Dippold a écrit :
[...]
Non-English speaking people need installers in their own language.
Yes of course.
Is there any chance that the installer could be in
On 11/30/2010 02:43 AM, plino wrote:
The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and
only English, Spanish and French dictionaries).
Why is LO going in the opposite direction with 299 and 466Mb???
The current packages (including in the smallest option 56 language
Le 2010-12-01 18:09, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :
Le 01/12/2010 23:42, Marc Paré a écrit :
Le 2010-12-01 17:29, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit :
Hi,
Le 30/11/2010 23:13, Dr. Bernhard Dippold a écrit :
[...]
Non-English speaking people need installers in their own language.
Yes of course.
The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and
only English, Spanish and French dictionaries).
Why is LO going in the opposite direction with 299 and 466Mb???
The current packages (including in the smallest option 56 language packs!!!)
makes no sense IMO as I mentioned
On 2010-11-30 5:43 AM, plino wrote:
The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and
only English, Spanish and French dictionaries).
Why is LO going in the opposite direction with 299 and 466Mb???
The current packages (including in the smallest option 56 language
On 11/30/2010 05:43 AM, plino wrote:
The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and
only English, Spanish and French dictionaries).
Why is LO going in the opposite direction with 299 and 466Mb???
The current packages (including in the smallest option 56 language
How come other language packs aren't being offered separately from the
main English installer? That way sizes are kept down in regards to
downloading. I'm willing to set aside some space on my server to help
out in that respect if need be for the language packs or otherwise.
On 11/30/2010
NoOp wrote:
On 11/26/2010 12:16 PM, Robert Derman wrote:
Marc Paré wrote:
...
Of these two options, I would prefer being offered the menu AFTER
having downloaded the LO suite. The reason for this: some users may
find that downloading the suite took a longer than the anticipated
Le 2010-11-30 13:44, Robert Derman a écrit :
Its difficult to really offer any meaningful suggestions until we get
beyond the beta stage but once we do, we should really do a better job
than OOo ever did of making LO available on disk for all those people
with only dial-up or no internet
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:10 PM, leif leiflod...@gmail.com wrote:
Den 30-11-2010 11:43, plino skrev:
The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and
only English, Spanish and French dictionaries).
Why is LO going in the opposite direction with 299 and 466Mb???
You are right. I didn't express myself correctly.
This is what I'm suggesting
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/A-proposal-for-effective-volunteer-friendly-user-support-in-LibreOffice-tp1954148p1973749.html
the first screen for the installer is simply a language selector (such as
the pidgin
On 11/26/2010 12:16 PM, Robert Derman wrote:
Marc Paré wrote:
...
Of these two options, I would prefer being offered the menu AFTER
having downloaded the LO suite. The reason for this: some users may
find that downloading the suite took a longer than the anticipated
time and they would not
Le 2010-11-26 15:16, Robert Derman a écrit :
Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-11-25 14:44, Robert Derman a écrit :
With all the discussion of the size of the download package and the
difficulty of including things like manuals I suddenly realized that
perhaps we are going about this thing entirely
Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-11-26 15:16, Robert Derman a écrit :
Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-11-25 14:44, Robert Derman a écrit :
With all the discussion of the size of the download package and the
difficulty of including things like manuals I suddenly realized that
perhaps we are going about this
Hi Robert, *,
Robert Derman schrieb:
[.. big snip ..]
P.S. I hope we can find a company or group of volunteers that can
make an LO package available on disk.
Regarding ISO-files for burning disks: good news for You. We offered
such ISO files for german language OpenOffice.org installer,
Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-11-25 14:44, Robert Derman a écrit :
With all the discussion of the size of the download package and the
difficulty of including things like manuals I suddenly realized that
perhaps we are going about this thing entirely wrong! Perhaps what we
should do is offer a
Le 2010-11-25 14:44, Robert Derman a écrit :
With all the discussion of the size of the download package and the
difficulty of including things like manuals I suddenly realized that
perhaps we are going about this thing entirely wrong! Perhaps what we
should do is offer a CHOICE of several
On 11/25/2010 07:27 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
Hi Robert:
Yes this would be ideal. However, this would also impact our developers
and add to their work. I, myself, would favour Barbara's suggestion of
having a link offering the user the to download extra packages such as
manuals. BTW ... I
Le 2010-11-25 21:38, Craig A. Eddy a écrit :
Marc,
May I suggest that, in addition to such a link being in the
installation, itself, that it also be available under Help or some
such for those who don't want it immediately, but might want it later
on? It would simply be a minor additional
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