Re: [tdf-discuss] Learn to quote

2010-10-04 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: Hi, for the sake of usability of this list for all readers, please have a loo k at: http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html @List masters: We should add a warning: Posting rules:

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice hacking / compiling (was: Re: LibreOffice compile error)

2010-10-04 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Gökçen Eraslan wrote: 02 Ekim 2010 Cumartesi günü (saat 16:18:39) Gökçen E ras lan şunları yazmıştı: we export LDFLAGS variable as: LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,-z,relro -Wl,--hash-style=gnu -Wl,--as-needed

[tdf-discuss] my letter to Oracle

2010-10-04 Thread Deniz Öğüt
Dear Friends, I sent a letter to Oracle via Oracle Turkey General Manager. Here is a copy: http://marenostrum.blogsome.com/2010/10/04/oraclea-mektubum/ The letter is a little bit tricky to translate. Mainly I stated what written in the Foundation's press release. I asked them to donate the

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice hacking / compiling (was: Re: LibreOffice compile error)

2010-10-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Norbert Thiebaud wrote: I'm confused. What is this list for then ? Which one? ;) discuss at tdf : general discussion libreoffice at fd.o : actual LibreOffice development Cheers, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages

[tdf-discuss] Re: Error compiling slideshow

2010-10-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Nguyen Vu Hung wrote: 2010/10/2 Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org [vuh...@www2 slideshow]$ rpm -qf /usr/include/GL/glxext.h mesa-libGL-devel-6.5.1-7.8.el5 This is the standard rpm on CentOS 5.5 that I has installed with yum in st al This mesa version is more than 4 years old

Re: [tdf-discuss] Libreoffice national domain name registrations

2010-10-04 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: yep, I take care of it. ;) Can I also request that some form of guidelines be in place over the domain registrations ? Both in terms of checking whether the domains are being registered and handled properly

Re: [tdf-discuss] Libreoffice national domain name registrations

2010-10-04 Thread Danishka Navin
AFAIK, most of domains registered just after TDF announcement (28th Sep) . We can schedule a mail to all TDF and LibO local domains holders on July or August of each year. But this wont required once TDF get full control on all regional domains. I don't think this will be a big issue. --

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice and LibO user technical help requests

2010-10-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi, Le Mon, 4 Oct 2010 13:42:58 +0200, Jesús Corrius je...@softcatala.org a écrit : So far there is a forum for support  at http://libreofficeforum.org we have locales for Spanish, English and German. Hope this will help, there are locale infrastructure being worked out right now. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread James Wilde
As I understand it, most of the development team of OOo jumped ship to set up LibO in anticipation of Oracle making unacceptable changes to the OOo concept. I don't know how many they are, but I'd be surprised if they're over 30, and as far as I and most users are concerned, they own the

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Compile problems

2010-10-04 Thread Marco ''AlpVonKri'' Flores
Yes, I'm as root, and the problem persist, I skipped the specification, but here is the correct sequence: ./configure --with-distro=SUSE --disable-kde --enable-kde4 ./download make # bin/ooinstall /opt/libreoffice Note the # symbol, so I'm as root, but it gives me that error. U_U And now

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-04 3:45 AM, James Wilde wrote: But the point is, the 30 or whatever developers have been planning this for some time. They didn't launch LibO after a beer last Friday, and they, for better or worse, chose LibreOffice as the name. We're never going to get nearer than 10%

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice font typeset

2010-10-04 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.comwrot e: Alexandro Colorado wrote: What font does LibreOffice use? Vegur, is a free font easily available on the web thanks -- Italo Vignoli Mobile: +39.348.5653829 - VoIP: +39.02.320621813 Email:

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice and LibO user technical help requests

2010-10-04 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: There seems to be more and more open discussions on installing the LibO software on the official Mandriva user-help discussion group us...@openoffice.org. As this is quite an active group, there is a lot o f trouble-shooting

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Graham Lauder
On Monday 04 Oct 2010 23:06:39 Italo Vignoli wrote: James Wilde wrote: As I understand it, most of the development team of OOo jumped ship to set up LibO in anticipation of Oracle making unacceptable changes to the OOo concept. I don't know how many they are, but I'd be surprised if

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice hacking / compiling

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-04 2:49 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: let's move code-related discussions over to the libreoffice dev list. I'm confused. What is this list for then ? General discussions? It is named the 'discuss' list after all. *All* projects have separate lists for strictly development/code

[tdf-discuss] Support For LibreOffice?

2010-10-04 Thread Harold Fuchs
Perhaps I've missed a thread somewhere but how do users of LibreOffice get technical support? I noticed that someone called Sam (i...@libreofficeforum.org) set up a forum at http://libreofficeforum.org/ but is that the way? -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please do *not* reply to my personal

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Italo Vignoli
James Wilde wrote: As I understand it, most of the development team of OOo jumped ship to set up LibO in anticipation of Oracle making unacceptable changes to the OOo concept. I don't know how many they are, but I'd be surprised if they're over 30, and as far as I and most users are

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Error compiling slideshow

2010-10-04 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org wrote: I haved  a line #undef GLX_VERSION_1_3 to the top of the following file source/engine/OGLTrans/OGLTrans_TransitionerImpl.cxx:#if defined( GLX_VERSION_1_3 ) defined( GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap ) then re

[tdf-discuss] OpenOffice and LibO user technical help requests

2010-10-04 Thread Marc Paré
There seems to be more and more open discussions on installing the LibO software on the official Mandriva user-help discussion group us...@openoffice.org. As this is quite an active group, there is a lot of trouble-shooting going as well as user support for the (now) official Oracle

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Graham Lauder wrote: We don't own anything. We have simply started the process, and we have tried to push it forward putting all our enthusiasm and energies behind i I'm sorry, if it's offlist, then for the majority of community members it 's secret. That may not seem that way to you, but

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice and LibO user technical help requests

2010-10-04 Thread Italo Vignoli
Marc Paré wrote: There seems to be more and more open discussions on installing the LibO software on the official Mandriva user-help discussion group us...@openoffice.org. As this is quite an active group, there is a lot of trouble-shooting going as well as user support for the (now) official

Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Varun, *, Varun Mittal schrieb: I have been reading the arguments and come to a simple suggestion. Lets create a poll( a lot of free sites, out there), and let everyone vote. We can list all the suggested names and whichever is preferred by community be acceptable I'm not amused to see

Re: [tdf-discuss] Support For LibreOffice?

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-04 4:35 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: Perhaps I've missed a thread somewhere but how do users of LibreOffice get technical support? I noticed that someone called Sam (i...@libreofficeforum.org) set up a forum at http://libreofficeforum.org/ but is that the way? I'm sure there will be

[tdf-discuss] Website status?

2010-10-04 Thread jzacsh
Hi, What is the status of allowing volunteers to help improve the website? I signed up to discuss with this sole purpose. The site as it is currently, with _out_ a new CMS, needs proper xhtml/CSS rendition of the image-based design its using. I started rewriting the website in exact

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-04 12:18 AM, Drew Jensen wrote: It seems that people at the conference made decisions that affected all of us an with not so much as a by your leave to most of us. Not sure who you mean by 'us', but the principles in the newly established organization that will become the Foundation

Re: [tdf-discuss] Support For LibreOffice?

2010-10-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-04 2:21 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote: they are setting up all sorts of infrastructure including mailing lists for marketing, I18N etc. etc. and I was puzzled by what seems to be a glaring omission - support. It is so obvious they probably just omitted to mention it... ;) -- Best

[tdf-discuss] Italian IRC Channels

2010-10-04 Thread Italo Vignoli
Hi, The Italian IRC channels have been registered: #documentfoundation-it and #libreoffice-it Both are available on irc.freenode.net. The former one is for discussions about The Document Foundation, and the latter one is for discussions on LibreOffice and development. -- Italo Vignoli

Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] interim structuring - a proposal

2010-10-04 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi Thorsten, 2010/10/4 Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org: Cor Nouws wrote: Also I think QA@ is a good thing. I think I fundamentally disagree on this one - the interface between QA and Dev is incredibly huge, I'd even venture the proposition that ideally there's no difference (in

[tdf-discuss] Re: New name

2010-10-04 Thread e-letter
I like Staroffice (remember that? :)) A logo could be built around a star and a series of adjacent logos indicative of an office document type (writer, calc, impress). Not a serious idea; just a personal opinion. -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] interim structuring - a proposal

2010-10-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Christoph Noack wrote: Ideally, I want QA folks to take notice if the Devs start debating details of specific features, and conversely, I want Devs to take notice of QA talking about specific problem areas in the product. But you should also be aware that there are much qa-people

Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Jon Hamkins
Let me second that libreoffice is a really poor choice, for all the reasons Graham enumerates. Also, libre is not a word that means anything to most English-only speakers, and its pronunciation is the same as Libra, the astrology sign. Libreoffice is difficult to pronounce, and difficult to

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Graham Lauder wrote: What info are you missing? Most I've probably worked out and that stuff I haven't, I made up using educated guesswork. Oracle made an interim response, do we have link to that somewhere. Martin, from Oracle, was linking to this article: http://tinyurl.com/36u3ksn

[tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-04 Thread Christoph Noack
Good evening everyone, the subject already tells you, this mail is about Wiki improvements. What Wiki? you might ask. Correct, there is none ... but if we want to change that, it'll be great to know what we require. Once it is set up, I'm confident that a reasonable structure will greatly help

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Jean! Thanks for pointing that out ... Am Dienstag, den 05.10.2010, 08:02 +1000 schrieb Jean Hollis Weber: On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 23:36 +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Graham Lauder wrote: Oracle made an interim response, do we have link to that somewhere. Martin, from Oracle,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Website status?

2010-10-04 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Jonathan! Am Montag, den 04.10.2010, 14:31 +0200 schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hi Jonathan, Am 04.10.2010 um 14:08 schrieb jzacsh: So I'm just looking for a definitive answer: Will anyone be giving us access to any way we can help with the website? I'd hate to be pushy, but I wake

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread jonathon
On 10/04/2010 10:41 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: I'm sorry, if it's offlist, then for the majority of community members it's secret. Anybody who has paid attention to OOo Project issues over the last decade, would have known that key developers, and other influential people in the OOo community

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread jonathon
On 10/04/2010 03:43 PM, Carlos Rocha wrote: and the good, old, and beautiful OOo. Oracle has named their product Oracle OpenOffice, with the abbreviation of OOO. One consequence of that act is that Oracle has poisoned both the OOo and OpenOffice.org brand names. jonathon -- No human will see

Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-04 Thread Benjamin Horst
Thanks, Christoph. I've long been interested in wikis and the capabilities they can provide, the data structures and usage patterns that tend to work well, and the various wiki platforms available. I've read Wikipatterns, which is a book I recommend to others interested in this subject. Much of

Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name

2010-10-04 Thread paul . hermeneutic
Libre is an excellent choice. It is much more than just free of cost; it means free of restrictions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_Libre -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly

Re: [tdf-discuss] [GENERAL] New name

2010-10-04 Thread paul . hermeneutic
Libre is an excellent choice. Most people in the world are not native English speakers. There will be few problems understanding LibreOffice. It is likely to be more universally understood than OpenOffice. -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-04 Thread Jonathan Zacsh
I'd like to see this project use mediawiki http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki -- Jonathan Zacsh On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 19:52, Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com wrote: Thanks, Christoph. I've long been interested in wikis and the capabilitie s they can provide, the data structures and usage

Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEBSITE] Improvements for the wiki?

2010-10-04 Thread Benjamin Horst
Any reason for that preference? What other wikis have you worked with, and what do you think are their particular strengths and weaknesses? I probably should not have introduced the question of wiki platform at this stage, before we have discussed the higher level requirements and information

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-04 Thread Ron House
It's unfortunate that this thread has morphed into a criticism of the key workers to whom we all owe so much. I posted earlier only in the spirit of contributing my opinion (which is based on thirty years of observation of project successes and failures) that the name chosen will be less